The Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot ???

[MuMI]

I thought brutal ballad would be a freaking great game, the art was awesome and looked oddworldish, just look at the weaponry and area schemes.

Obviously something in it had to be odd, but you have to admit that most of the art is human-like!

[Wil]

This argument is academic, not just from our being uninfluential fans, but from the existing history of the development of Fangus. When the design team started making the characters and environment more human and earthly, Lorne already relocated the action off-Oddworld. If the game’s production were to recommence, it would either use the same off-Oddworld design and setting, or be redesigned to meet the visual requirements of being an Oddworld production. Either way, the story and ethos would be typically Oddworldian.

[Crashpunk]

Fangus just looks a lot like Stranger only just a bit more human. I've got to say the concept art looks very good. the environments look epic.

[caidoozap]

I thought brutal ballad would be a freaking great game, the art was awesome and looked oddworldish, just look at the weaponry and area schemes.

Did you even PLAY the other Oddworld games? It looked nothing like the others, the weaponry looked like any other shooting game! As a matter of fact it is well known that even Lorne was losing interest once he saw the direction the art and game was going (and yes, at that point he did decide that it would no longer take place on Oddworld). The fact that it spiraled so out of control and so far from what he originally intended was probably the final nail in the coffin for him (Note I said FINAL, I'm aware there were many other factors) which is why we haven't seen another game in so long.

Also Ziggy you're right about the Halo comparison, that's the first thing that popped in my head as well. Weapons, Vehicles...Armor....bleghhh

Max the Mug I absolutely agree that the story of Fangus (at least what we know) is still very Oddworldian, as I refreshed my memory recently by reading up on it.

[Nate]

Did you even PLAY the other Oddworld games? It looked nothing like the others, the weaponry looked like any other shooting game!

Just because it's different doesn't mean it would be bad.

The fact that it spiraled so out of control and so far from what he originally intended was probably the final nail in the coffin for him (Note I said FINAL, I'm aware there were many other factors) which is why we haven't seen another game in so long.

If it had been the FINAL nail, the game wouldn't have progressed far enough to be announced. The FINAL nail was some unethical behaviour on the part of their publishers that caused him to be disillusioned about the games industry.

[caidoozap]

Just because it's different doesn't mean it would be bad.

If it had been the FINAL nail, the game wouldn't have progressed far enough to be announced. The FINAL nail was some unethical behaviour on the part of their publishers that caused him to be disillusioned about the games industry.

Your argument to my comment stating that the weaponry looked like any other shooting game is "Just because it's different?"

I already stated that I am aware there were many other factors - that includes the publishers raping him up the ass. Who's to say which one was the final nail, diillusion due to publishers, or disillusion due to the development team's lack of originality. However it is clear Lorne was not nearly as interested after they took the more "realistic" approach.

So in that aspect they were BOTH nails, don't argue over which one came first. I think we can both agree at least, that the game has been laid to rest, so the nails are definitely there. Maybe it will be dug up some day but for now it is dead.

[Nate]

Your argument to my comment stating that the weaponry looked like any other shooting game is "Just because it's different?"

Okay, perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that Fangus didn't look like the other Oddworld games and thus it must be bad.

I already stated that I am aware there were many other factors - that includes the publishers raping him up the ass. Who's to say which one was the final nail, diillusion due to publishers, or disillusion due to the development team's lack of originality.

I think Lorne has the right to say it, and he has several times.

I'm not saying they're not both nails. Just that the event that actually caused him to cancel the game was the publishers being dicks.

[caidoozap]

Okay, perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that Fangus didn't look like the other Oddworld games and thus it must be bad.

I think Lorne has the right to say it, and he has several times.

I'm not saying they're not both nails. Just that the event that actually caused him to cancel the game was the publishers being dicks.

Glad to know we're on the same page now.

[Xavier]

I still think it looked like a solid game and I still wish to see it done one day. I loved the Stranger engine's gameplay and the dark tone the whole game was going to have got me excited as well.

[Hazel-Rah]

I want a good game. The reason why most people want another Abe game is not because they love Abe - if that were the case, they'd love a Tetris clone with an animated figure of Abe in the corner - it's because the gameplay and story of the Abe games were so wonderful.

So, frankly, I don't care if the next new game Oddmobb produce has Abe, Munch, Squeek, Nod, Forté, Stranger, Fangus, Coolio or Whatsit... I just want a good game.

Yeah but we love Abe's personality, his naivety and untraditional character traits are an essential part of the Abe games. I don't think the Abe games would've been the same without Abe and even though I liked Stranger's Wrath quite a lot I associate Oddworld with Abe more.

But if they want to make a new character I'm not gonna stop them, we'll always have the Abe games.

[Ninjaxe]

I gathered that Fangus is more actiony than stranger. Probably a cross between Incedible Hulk and Stranger. Supposely he is dying from "rabbies," Then there much be some crazy and brutal elements.

[Hazel-Rah]

Could've been awesome then, it could've been one of those rare games that kill off the protagonist at the end. Those are truly the best kinds of games.

[Xavier]

I'm not sure the fact that the main characters dies at the end of the game affects the overall quality of the game. Anyway that blind rage could have be fun to play with, plus I always like when the main character goes insane when the game goes on.

[ziggy]

Yeah but we love Abe's personality, his naivety and untraditional character traits are an essential part of the Abe games. I don't think the Abe games would've been the same without Abe and even though I liked Stranger's Wrath quite a lot I associate Oddworld with Abe more.

But if they want to make a new character I'm not gonna stop them, we'll always have the Abe games.

I have the same feelings Hazel-Rah. Abe was a good character, and I liked his childish innocence, aside from the fun and challenging gameplay. Fangus would be a cool game I suppose, but I like Abe because he's not the tough anti-hero that so many game developers try to create to make their games hip and edgy.

[Mudokon_Master]

Abe is definitely someone to remember in my life. I DO hope they make more of him, but it's probably not likely.

[Hazel-Rah]

Nah, AO was just magical, I'm sure the people working on the new game want to get back to their roots, besides Abe's story isn't done

[psycoman27]

Are you all INSANE??? Fangus looked absolutely NOTHING like an Oddworld game with a character that looked FAR too human, and had a horribly bland "scifi futuristic war game" look to it that absolutely disgusted me, and I am both relieved and grateful this piece of crap was cancelled before it marred such an amazing series. Let me reiterate: Fangus looked TERRIBLE and was not special like the other games, the ONLY aspect about it that I found interesting was the part where he was going to be losing sanity with a form of rabies. That might've been a good idea if the game had the "LOOK" of Oddworld but it didn't.

Mudokons - good creations.
Gabbits - good creations.
Steefs - good creations.

Fangus = practically human - I expect more from a game called ODDworld. BAD IDEA

You do realize that it was just concept art right? The game graphics go a long way from their original concept art.

I was really looking forward to this game, I liked the darker world, and the return of gamespeak with the same mechanics of Strangers wrath, and I wanted to see Oddworld make a rated M game, so they could get away with what they wanted to do without being so restricted by the ESRB.