An argument about music and Art and Justin Bieber's body double

[FrustratedAssassin]

MOD EDIT: This thread up until this post was split off from Bits & Pieces after this post.

I changed my mind.

[Varrok]

Dammit, I missed it.

It was probably something very shameful. Did anybody notice this?

[Crashpunk]

I bet it was a Bieber song or something.

[FrustratedAssassin]

Shut up, his latest album is good I wouldn't be ashamed by that. You know what I'm actually going to post a song off it here.

[Varrok]

Shaaame

[Crashpunk]

I actually sat down and watched that entire music video.

And you know what...



I now want to kill myself.

[Alf Shall Rise]

At 1:03 when that kid (don't think he was Bieber?) jumps off that small hill, the scene changes before he lands. I bet he fucking wipes out

[Varrok]

I hope Bieber jumps off a hill

[FrustratedAssassin]

ITT: people who are thirteen

[OANST]

*continued: listen to Justin Bieber.

[Nate]

That video was super pretty. I'd be jealous of Bieber for getting to visit those places if I actually thought it was him in any of those shots.

[Dynamithix]

Justin Bieber has definitely found a new sound with his latest music, quite similar to the likes of Travi$ Scott. Still not too into his music, but I don't mind his newer tracks like Where Are You Now or Sorry.

[FrustratedAssassin]

Where Are You Now is a great song and I actually have it in my playlist. Hating Justin Bieber was popular like five years ago and you should just grow up.

[OANST]

It's soulless music by committee. I don't hate Justin Bieber. I just don't listen to soulless music made by committees.

[Varrok]

What about Soul music made by committee?

[OANST]

Well, that's different.

[FrustratedAssassin]

It's soulless music by committee. I don't hate Justin Bieber. I just don't listen to soulless music made by committees.

So edgy

[OANST]

So edgy

That's.....not edgy. Like, at all. That's just not having bad taste in music....

[Job McYossie]

Nah brah it's pretty edgy to say

I just don't listen to soulless music made by committees.

Like dang who made you the authority, chill out with other's music.

[Varrok]

She's still young. I listened to shitty music when I was 12-14 too.

[OANST]

Nah brah it's pretty edgy to say

Like dang who made you the authority, chill out with other's music.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not. If you are, let me say this. It's not her music. It's not even Justin Bieber's music. It was music written by a committee for him to sing over.

[STM]

Haha the sounds I like are different and thus better than the sounds you like.

You should all shut up and listen to avant gardë industrial military pop rock

[OANST]

You guys can't honestly tell me that you consider pop music (music written as a salable product being presented by a salesman (artist)) to be in the same ballpark as music written by musicians who write music because they love sound, can you? I'm not trying to come off really strong on this because honestly, to me, it isn't art, and therefor doesn't even enter the conversation in a meaningful enough way to either hate or love it. I hate Disturbed. I don't care at all about Justin Bieber.

[FrustratedAssassin]

Actually, indie pop and synthpop are some of my favourite genres. So yes, I do consider pop music to be in the same ballpark as music written by musicians who love music because it's the sound that matters, not the intent.

[Varrok]

Modern pop and good music are like fast food and food in a fine restaurant. You can like fast food, but that doesn't make fast food a good food, made with care by the talented people who love making food.

[FrustratedAssassin]

Oh, so old pop is somehow magically better? Also are you saying Skrillex, who produced most of the songs on Bieber's album, is not talented and doesn't like making music?

What is good music to you? Dadrock and death metal?

Oh and Varrok, I doubt you're that much older than me. In fact, looking at your profile, I can see you're 22. That's three years.

[Varrok]

Most of death metal suck, though for different reasons.

Some "dadrock" bands are amazing. Like Electric Light Orchestra, Beatles and many others. Queen were especially awesome, with complex songwriting, great use of music theory, incredible vocal, guitar, drum and bass perfomances, catchiness and the passion. Oh the passion.

[OANST]

I couldn't disagree more. Intent is so much more important than the sound to me.

[Varrok]

But I didn't *mean* to make you dissagree with me.

How's about that!

[FrustratedAssassin]

I couldn't disagree more. Intent is so much more important than the sound to me.

That's called being a pretentious hipster.

Some "dadrock" bands are amazing. Like Electric Light Orchestra, Beatles and many others. Queen were especially awesome, with complex songwriting, great use of music theory, incredible vocal, guitar, drum and bass perfomances, catchiness and the passion. Oh the passion.

That's what le edgy 14 year olds in the YouTube comments keep saying. It's all bullshit.