I Have Just Seen... VI -

Bullet Magnet · #**931** 03-06-2013, 03:20 AM

Hold your cattle there, sport. The science isn't quite there yet. Death is not yet something science can do.

OANST · #**932** 03-06-2013, 06:59 AM

We watched it Sunday night. It took until about an hour ago for us to normalize. In the future I am going to ask Varrok's opinion before I open my mouth because that boy was very right. Very, very right.

Varrok · #**933** 03-06-2013, 07:01 AM

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We watched it Sunday night. It took until about an hour ago for us to normalize. In the future I am going to ask Varrok's opinion before I open my mouth because that boy was very right. Very, very right.

As always, I'm happy to help

Sekto Springs · #**934** 03-07-2013, 07:44 AM

I'm so happy my fiancee hates all the same things I hate.

Manco · #**935** 03-07-2013, 09:53 AM

OANST · #**936** 03-07-2013, 12:13 PM

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I'm so happy my fiancee hates all the same things I hate.

I'm sure that's nice, but to be honest it doesn't feel all that terribly important to me. Besides, I just don't have the energy to hate things with the kind of ferocity that I used to. I'm more mildly amused by how bad things are now than actually hating them.

Mr. Bungle · #**937** 03-07-2013, 12:15 PM

Amusement is always much healthier than hate, anyways. I like your new stance on terrible.

Crashpunk · #**938** 03-09-2013, 04:17 AM

I watched that Taskshi's Castle reboot last night. To be honest, Dick and Dom didn't do an amazing job narrating it. It was funny but it didn't suit Dick and Dom at all, most of the time they were trying to think of whitty puns to go with the clips, struggling to think of something funny to say.

...I really missed Craig Charles, he made that show even better.

OANST · #**939** 03-09-2013, 09:25 AM

Went to the theater with Stephanie, and saw John Dies at the End last night. We smoked some really good pot before going in, and had a really good time. I'm not sure that it was an extremely good movie, but it was an extremely fun movie. Especially stoned.

Dynamithix · #**940** 03-12-2013, 09:01 AM

Watched City of God today. It was great, very good acting and interesting plot.

Steamer_KING · #**941** 03-12-2013, 09:17 AM

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Watched City of God today. It was great, very good acting and interesting plot.

Dude, you really are getting in to the "favela" thing. Have you seen "Elite Squad"? It's a really good movie and one of the most real you'll get. Also, see "Bus 174", to witness the hard reality of Brazil.

Dynamithix · #**942** 03-12-2013, 09:39 AM

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Dude, you really are getting in to the "favela" thing.

Haha, yeah, after playing the favela chapters in Max Payne 3 I remembered I hadn't watched City of God yet even though it had been sitting on my shelf for almost a month already. I have heard about Tropa de Elite, might watch that some day.

Steamer_KING · #**943** 03-12-2013, 09:49 AM

I haven't seen the second one, but the first is really great.

Sekto Springs · #**944** 03-12-2013, 11:33 AM

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You?

That's the one thing we don't mutually hate. I hate me. She loves me. I keep telling her to hate me but she just doesn't get it.

So I showed my somewhat sheltered friend the entire Alien series (he hadn't seen it). He hated 'Aliens', which I was happy about, because I often feel like I'm the only person who thinks that one is a pile of dick.

Nepsotic · #**945** 03-12-2013, 11:04 PM

Aliens is the best film ever made you are a terrible person.

I'll tell you what's shit. The 4th one. The third one was alright, the first is really really good, but Alien: Ressurection is a huge pile of jizzcock.

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I keep telling her to hate me but she just doesn't get it.

You should tell her you hate Aliens.

Josh · #**946** 03-13-2013, 02:08 AM

At least the Aliens in the 4th film didn't look like they did in the 3rd. bleck

Wings of Fire · #**947** 03-13-2013, 07:37 AM

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The third one was alright

I was with you until this.

It's not quite Terminator 3, but it's pretty fucking bad.

Sekto Springs · #**948** 03-13-2013, 08:45 AM

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Aliens is the best film ever made you are a terrible person.

Aliens is a perfect demonstration of how James Cameron was the Michael Bay of the 80's (besides Michael Bay). I think I've already gone over why it's a terrible movie earlier in this thread. In a nutshell, it's a badly written cartoon that shat on everything that made the first one so memorable and provocative.

From there I'll segue into why Alien 3 is actually the best sequel, because it tried to restore the atmosphere of the first movie, plus it has outstanding characterization, subtle cinematography, and it's just downright well-scripted. Say what you will about the visual FX, they were pretty eye-opening for their time. My buddy actually mistook some of the Alien shots for CG, and was impressed when I told him it was actually a complex rod puppet shot on blue screen.

I challenge anyone here to actually watch both movies back to back (as I just did), ignoring what the internet tells you to think about them, and tell me definitively why Aliens is good and Aliens 3 isn't.

If we're talking from a strictly "movie magic" standpoint, Aliens has all the others beat by a mile. It has the most going on and the coolest special FX, but at the cost of the writing and atmosphere.

Wings of Fire · #**949** 03-13-2013, 08:59 AM

Alien was a good well written and crafted horror movie.

Aliens was a very good memorable and charming action movie. I'm pretty sure James Cameron even said he made Aliens as an action movie because he believed just doing Alien again would be shitty and derivative, obviously he was right because...

Alien 3 was a stupid contrived horror movie that went out of its way to shit on Aliens.

Your criticisms basically rest on the fact that Alien was horror and Aliens is action. That accounts for the difference in writing and atmosphere. And Cameron being the Bay of the 80s? Really now? On what grounds else from Aliens? Terminator maybe? I've not seen The Abyss so I can't comment on that, but Bay's movies are soulless charmless special effects showcases. Certainly you could make the argument for Titanic and Avatar being that, but not Aliens and Terminator/2.

Mac Sirloin · #**950** 03-13-2013, 09:03 AM

All of you are stupid-wrong. The correct answer is that all media is disgusting poisonous drek and James Cameron is a financially irresponsible manbaby.

Sekto Springs · #**951** 03-13-2013, 09:21 AM

The Abyss is actually a great movie for what it is, and it's probably the only Cameron movie I'll defend to the end. That and True Lies. Neither of which were actually from Cameron's own brain, which might explain why I like them more than his original works.

When I compare Cameron to Bay, it's not so much the quality of the overall movie, as it is his mentality when making it. The first Alien was all the beats of a haunted house movie, but in space, with the benefit of some Kubrickian ambiance and a troupe of acting greats who took a hastily written beatsheet and made it shine. Aliens is the same movie, but with lots of guns, explosions, space marines who don't act anything like marines facing off against a bajillion aliens that have been nerfed to disposable cannon fodder, the inclusion of a little girl for ham-fisted pathos, and a final showdown that feels like it's right out of a video game.

So yeah, arguably all of these things are perfectly acceptable in an action movie, but I don't like action movies. While Alien 3 is essentially just the first movie in a different setting, I was happy to see it return to the haunted house shtick, and the writing and characters didn't make me nauseous.

Nepsotic · #**952** 03-13-2013, 10:07 AM

How come nobody has mentioned the hellspawn that is Alien 4?

Dynamithix · #**953** 03-13-2013, 11:26 AM

Alien: Resurrection isn't that bad, I enjoyed it for what it was. I'm not saying it's a good movie either but I didn't hate it.

Manco · #**954** 03-13-2013, 12:29 PM

For the record, I didn’t like Alien when I saw it.

Sekto Springs · #**955** 03-13-2013, 12:40 PM

Resurrection is okay. I'm biased because I love Juenet as a director and I love the fucking circus of a cast. You can tell none of the people working on the movie took it seriously, and were only barely trying to make an Alien movie.

OANST · #**956** 03-13-2013, 12:52 PM

I think of that movie the way I think of AIDS. I really don't want to get AIDS.

Bullet Magnet · #**957** 03-14-2013, 03:53 AM

The screenplay was good. I don't know who fucked it up.

OANST · #**958** 03-14-2013, 05:50 AM

Winona Ryder.

Dynamithix · #**959** 03-14-2013, 06:27 AM

I'm actually looking forward to watching this. I don't really care if it's bad or dumb, if it's anywhere near as entertaining as the first one was for me, I'll probably like it.

Nepsotic · #**960** 03-14-2013, 07:37 AM

Kick-Ass is the only spoof film done right. If you don't know what I mean by that then let me jog your memory.
Vampires Suck
Disaster Movie
Teen Movie
Scary Movie
Every film with Movie on the end.

Suddenly Kick-Ass doesn't seem as bad.