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Dynamithix · #31 09-15-2011, 05:24 AM

I liked that trailer. It was like the old trailer and you could definitely see some of the new tweaks they've made. I wish this would be available for the 360 too, I'd love to play it in HD.

***Nate*** · #32 09-15-2011, 05:35 AM

Hrm. Not impressed. I'm sure they've done a shittonne of work to upres everything, but when they use a lossy video codec, everything blurs beyond the point of being able to notice any difference. And this is even lossier than Flash videos normally are, so I suspect it might have been the codec that JAW used before uploading it. The same goes for the Youtube version of the video in 720p, which is normally quite sharp.

So whilst it's nice to see this as a trailer to promote the re-release, as an example of HDifying, I remain whelmed.

Crashpunk · #33 09-15-2011, 05:45 AM

I love the trailer but i have to agree with Nate, The quality even in HD is upsettingly bad

SgabbitGabbiar · #34 09-15-2011, 06:33 AM

however the trailer is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0PefsSTwY

STM · #35 09-15-2011, 07:30 AM

I thought it was fantastic except the animals on Stranger's crossbow, me and my brother both agree they are debatable models and textures. Nevertheless I am stunned bey everything else.

Manco · #36 09-15-2011, 07:38 AM

I agree the video could have been a little sharper, but at the same time I think the HD effect is still very, very obvious. Compare it with the original trailer.

I think the effect’s most noticeable on the crossbow and the ammo, as well as the other character models.

DarkHoodness · #37 09-15-2011, 08:26 AM

The Zappfly's eyes/body should glow a bit more - Other than that though the changes look good. It's nice to see life being breathed back into this game.

Sekto Springs · #38 09-15-2011, 09:01 AM

Completely and utterly underwhelmed. All the significant changes I expected either didn't happen or aren't noticeable.

erwinraaben55 · #39 09-15-2011, 09:03 AM

Really, graphics all you guys care about???

Finally this game will be out on a system that sells, and has a better controller than the original xbox controller. Should play alot better. THAT's what I care about, playability.

Sure super HD graphics are fine, but just not possible with just an upgrade. Be happy this fantastic game is out on the market again!.

I just would have loved if the trailer had some sound effects instead of music.

But above else, it is promising what JAW is delivering I think.

Sekto Springs · #40 09-15-2011, 09:10 AM

When it comes to an HD reboot, yes, graphics is all I care about. Your argument is the kind you lob when the game is brand new. Of course playability takes precedent, but SW was already playable, so your point is moot.

I think as a promotional release on JAW's behalf, they did their job. This will open the door for future projects, I'm sure. It's just that in my case, the difference doesn't look significant enough for me to purchase this. I'm content with just re-playing the original.

Glitch · #41 09-15-2011, 09:19 AM

We'll be doing a video comparing the xbox version to the ps3 version fairly soon. The difference is quite striking when you see them side by side.

We have been limited by the engine to a fairly large degree in a number of key areas, so I appreciate that the game doesn't stand up as jaw dropping visually.

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Completely and utterly underwhelmed. All the significant changes I expected either didn't happen or aren't noticeable.

What changes in particular are you expecting?

***Wil*** · #42 09-15-2011, 09:21 AM

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jaw dropping

lol

Sekto Springs · #43 09-15-2011, 09:22 AM

Doesn't matter now

I'll probably still buy it and just have fun comparing. I know you guys worked hard on it.

STM · #44 09-15-2011, 09:26 AM

Well I don't really mind, it is typical OWF mentality to get something new and hate on it because it didn't look up to our expectations of the glory of Odd. If you don't like it go learn coding or design and work for JAW, until then nut up.

Sekto Springs · #45 09-15-2011, 09:29 AM

Ah, the classic "If you can't do it better, you can't criticize" approach. The world is such a better place for people who say that. Really it is.

metroixer · #46 09-15-2011, 09:38 AM

the fuzzles look weird as hell

e: like they're ovals now or something, they looked fine before??

Sekto Springs · #47 09-15-2011, 09:47 AM

I actually think the touch-ups to the live ammo are pretty good. With the exception of the zappfly, which seems to be lacking that luminous quality its predecessor had.

metroixer · #48 09-15-2011, 09:59 AM

Yeah I think everything else looks fine but the fuzzles just look like completely new creatures. I do particularly enjoy the touch ups the upgraded boombat got.

that being said I agree with most people here saying that the game doesnt look that upgraded in terms of graphics. For now though I'm going to blame this on the decision of using a bad codec and putting it on youtube.

Jordan · #49 09-15-2011, 10:07 AM

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Well I don't really mind, it is typical OWF mentality to get something new and hate on it because it didn't look up to our expectations of the glory of Odd. If you don't like it go learn coding or design and work for JAW, until then nut up.

I'm afraid you're confusing the Oddworld community with the Sonic community.

Wings of Fire · #50 09-15-2011, 10:18 AM

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If you don't like it go learn coding or design and work for JAW, until then nut up.

You can never criticize Twilight again.
You can never criticize Lady Gaga again.
You can never criticize David Cameron again.
You can never criticize Uwe Bol again.
You can never criticize Rob Liefeldt again
You can never criticize the England football team again.
You can never criticize anime again. Not the art, writing, direction or voice acting.

Congratulations brave Internet User on making it to the End of Quality. Enjoy your... well, everything really.

STM · #51 09-15-2011, 10:38 AM

Ah fuck you and your pedanticism WoF, I just don't think this HD touch up is such a bad thing, we got what it says on the box, and HD remake...there we go.

DarkHoodness · #52 09-15-2011, 11:12 AM

It's that problem with some people over-hyping things again - And they tend to be the noisier ones when things don't live up to their expectations. The HD update is a fantastic thing indeed, gives a good game a new lease of life by making it a bit better and more available to play than it was, and people really should appreciate it a lot more.

Michael · #53 09-15-2011, 11:14 AM

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Okay, so it was the trailer.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...th-hd-for-ps3/

The fourth comment at the bottom, someone asks whether Abe will appear. JAW reply 'no comment'. Bit of an odd reply isn't it, considering he wasn't in the original SW? Why not just say no? Or could Abe be one of the hidden easter eggs included in SWHD?

By the way, gotta say that some of the other comments from people are ridiculous! So many people think it's a brand new game! I guess it really is time to reintroduce people to Oddworld, question is whether they will give it a chance. So many ignorant people dismissing SWHD because it has some FPS portions and they 'insult' AO? Bunch of plonkers

Sekto Springs · #54 09-15-2011, 11:21 AM

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JAW reply 'no comment'. Bit of an odd reply isn't it, considering he wasn't in the original SW? Why not just say no? Or could Abe be one of the hidden easter eggs included in SWHD?

More like they couldn't be arsed to abide such ignorance.

erwinraaben55 · #55 09-15-2011, 11:23 AM

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When it comes to an HD reboot, yes, graphics is all I care about.

Stranger and Munch will clearly be a HD UPGRADE game.
That is something totally different than a total HD REBOOT of a game (meaning building from the ground up).
Take the GOW HD REMAKES, I even found the graphics of the ingame movies were worse then the versions on the ps2 (okay, that was a bummer). But that's all they had to work with, that was the material they had to use at best. It doesn't even come CLOSE to the graphics of the GOW 3 game. But I didn't care, I had a reason to play those great games again. Same will be in the next few months with Stranger HD, ICO and Shadow of the Colossus HD, Zone of the Enders HD, DMC HD, MGS HD. Played them all on ps2, but want to play them again, not because they have a HD graphics, but because they are such great games.

I even almost played Stranger on the Xbox again, but just at that time I heard about the HD remake coming to PS3, so I didn't force myself into holding that stupid Xbox controller playing a great game, I could hold my urge because I knew the game would play so much better with a ps3 controller in my hands.

Varrok · #56 09-15-2011, 11:29 AM

I agree with Nate at the point he said video quality was bad - seriously, I can't even rate how good/bad the models/textures are (maybe except crossbow with ammo, which I think is done nicely)... I didn't know they reworked lighting system (the whole sunrays etc.) : o

PS: It's God of War I/II HD PORT, it's not an actual remake. Model quality stays the same, that's not the case with SW HD, so it's understandable that S.S. may not be satisfied with it

Sekto Springs · #57 09-15-2011, 11:33 AM

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Played them all on ps2, but want to play them again, not because they have a HD graphics, but because they are such great games.

Okay, you keep repeating the same point, and I keep telling you it's moot. I already know the games are playable and I enjoy them plenty whether they're HD or not. I'm not saying the game is less enjoyable because it failed to live up to my HD expectations, I'm just telling you it's not much better either.

As for your comment on the Xbox controller, I don't find anything wrong with it, so that's entirely a matter of taste.

Daxter King · #58 09-15-2011, 12:22 PM

I haven't been following this as much as some of you, it seems like the only changes are added AA, up-res, and a change to the Stranger model and ammo. Are there more Im not noticing, or is that it?

MeechCrunchies · #59 09-15-2011, 12:51 PM

Stewart Gilray on September 15th, 2011 at 6:53 am said: Well, we are working on a new Abe title, and will also be starting work next year on Squeek’s Oddysee, the 3rd game in the Quintology

Much as I've learned to not go by word alone,
this still makes me Squeal a little

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moxco · #60 09-15-2011, 02:17 PM

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure the original stranger was less colourful. The sepia-like colours were were an important part of SW visual character.