.lvl files -

RoryF · #**451** 07-11-2009, 08:21 AM

I've just joined and I've worked out how Camtool.exe works!
Only saying this because i could tell people how to do it if they don't know.

Edit: oops it crashed after loading
Edit: Ok this is how you do it... Open command prompt then use the cd command to go to where you have Camtool and stuff type
Camtool.exe -r (Whatever the bitmaps you want in the game's called).bmp (Which screen you want to replace).CAM

Fuzzle Guy · #**452** 07-11-2009, 01:34 PM

Do you have the knowledge or skills to help us with the ripping of the Abe's Exoddus Sprites and backgrounds?

joshkrz · #**453** 07-11-2009, 04:52 PM

Yerh come on Markus, help us out to rip all these assets if you can.

RoryF · #**454** 07-12-2009, 12:19 AM

Well I'll try but i don't think I'll be able to, they're mostly done in cmd. But using the README I might find just the command to do so. If I do I'll be sure to tell what it is.

Ps: It took me a long time figuring the Camtool command. I did just try different ways.

Edit: Using Pauls Extract program I've ripped BAN JOY BND's and a VH file for each LVL file. I might just be able to hex edit them with PSPad. I think I've found the sprites because in AO the sprites were in BAN file format. BTW pauls Extract file only uses the extract command so it's quite simple.

Fuzzle Guy · #**455** 07-12-2009, 05:19 AM

I have no idea what you just said but it sounds productive! Huzzah!

RoryF · #**456** 07-12-2009, 07:05 AM

Lol Basically I've found some sprite files in AE however I haven't yet figured how to switch them from being BAN to BMP so you might be able to edit them! I won't hex edit them just yet as I might corrupt the game's .LVL files! Also, I am making -ddcheat vids and I might damage the .SAV file. I will still work on it though.

Chubfish · #**457** 07-12-2009, 07:14 AM

Good luck with it, tell me if you find out or do anything interesting with it

RoryF · #**458** 07-12-2009, 07:20 AM

I think I might have to create one of those cmd shortcut commands. such as *BAN* *BMP* I think this might work but I'm not sure because *BAN* Means all BAN file types. *BMP* Means change all BANs to BMPs. Unless I've put the * in the wrong place lol!
Edit: I'm going to check I've put * in the right place!!!
Edit: Ooops! The shortcut must be cmd /c *ren *.ban *.bmp See if that works LOL!

joshkrz · #**459** 07-12-2009, 08:06 AM

At last anothter computer mechanic to sort out our reverse engineering needs. Parhapps you should make a backup folder and work on the copied files to prevent the whole game from fucking up?

RoryF · #**460** 07-12-2009, 08:12 AM

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At last anothter computer mechanic to sort out our reverse engineering needs. Parhapps you should make a backup folder and work on the copied files to prevent the whole game from fucking up?

Nice idea I might try that, pehaps now I could try that cmd command shortcut. Very handy things shortcuts LOL. I'll post in new stuff when I figured them out!

Edit: No I've just tried the shortcut cmd file however it does a quick flicker and then nothing however I could try Hex-Editing the file.

joshkrz · #**461** 07-12-2009, 08:22 AM

Never know you might find yourself making a full blown level editor.

RoryF · #**462** 07-12-2009, 08:41 AM

LOL I might if I do it long enough! I'm hex editing it now!
Edit: After Hex Editing I made Mudokons unable to "explode" into little pieces just by changing Anim to End! LOL

Fuzzle Guy · #**463** 07-12-2009, 09:00 AM

I am actually getting excited.

When people rip the games, it creates opportunities for fans to create fan games, and also provides the fans that don't make games with some wonderful extras to have in the absence of much given to us by OWI in the last couple of years.

RoryF · #**464** 07-12-2009, 09:03 AM

I figured that you can do it too with SLIGZ.ban. It glitches though!
Edit: If you hex edit a .CAM file it contains total gibberish so I wouldn't bother trying.
Edit: BAN files can be opened in Movie Maker!!! If you have the right codec. If I get that codec I might be able to rip the sprite files from their original animation!

joshkrz · #**465** 07-12-2009, 02:34 PM

EDIT: Holy shit! Your fucking eleven years old! You are doing so much better than another recent newcomer on these forums, and you know how to hex edit and rip games and fuck your clever, not to mention your grammer and spelling.
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OWI should of done what Core Design did with Tomb Raider. They released a level editor that you can manupulate so much that you could create a whole new game, not just Tomb Raider although it will run on the same engine.

RoryF · #**466** 07-13-2009, 08:57 AM

LOL thanks I won't make any self applying comments there so... I probably will edit some later using PSPad. Though most files are written in nonsense. Although I found out that most (maybe all) have an english phrase at the beggining of each script. They are usually stuff like Anim, Text or some other stuff and they have End! at the bottom! I reckon that the Anim and stuff part tells the program what type the BAN or BND is.

Phylum · #**467** 07-13-2009, 07:37 PM

*applauds*

This is the best oddworld related news I've read on here in ages. Keep up the good work!

OddjobAbe · #**468** 07-14-2009, 06:47 AM

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not to mention your grammer and spelling.

I dispute this. And the "your clever" and the "your eleven years old" should be "you're". We've been through this.

Interesting work, though, Odd Man. I'm sure you'll get somewhere in the end up.

Fuzzle Guy · #**469** 07-14-2009, 07:05 AM

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I dispute this. And the "your clever" and the "your eleven years old" should be "you're". We've been through this.

@Josh Yus. Your for something the person owns. You're if you mean You are.

RoryF · #**470** 07-14-2009, 11:17 AM

LOL I was thinking of what would happen if you would change a $ to a £ in one of the scripts it will probably glitch it but I thought it might do something quite cool. Like a secret. Not saying it will though. Also, I couldn't find any BAN or BND codecs, so that crosses Movie Maker off the list. It doesn't make any sense because after hex editing the file and finding Anim, I thought it would be an animation in which you could edit.

joshkrz · #**471** 07-15-2009, 01:10 AM

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I dispute this. And the "your clever" and the "your eleven years old" should be "you're". We've been through this.

Interesting work, though, Odd Man. I'm sure you'll get somewhere in the end up.

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@Josh Yus. Your for something the person owns. You're if you mean You are.

For fuck sake, I'm sorry yeah, It's going to take a while to sink in. Like I said before I hardly knew there was a different spelling for it.

Crashpunk · #**472** 07-15-2009, 07:17 AM

i have to say, maybe I'm too late but i love the Soulstorm mod!

RoryF · #**473** 07-20-2009, 02:30 AM

OK I've found out that if you switch a sprite such as ABEBLOW.BAN to another one like SLIGZ.BAN, it either bugs up and crashes or when you hit a mine you fall off the ledge and die. Mine usually crashes though. I used PSPad to switch them BTW.

Jango · #**474** 07-28-2009, 12:47 AM

Hi

I have read some of this thread and am a bit confused. What is this tool and what does it do? Please can I have a link to download it? Don't tell me I have to read the whole thread...it is massive!

Thank you if you can help

**JayDee** · #**475** 07-28-2009, 12:49 AM

read the whole thread youll find a lot of things out including the links

Chubfish · #**476** 07-28-2009, 12:49 AM

Usually the game will lock up if you remove/replace animation files. Replacing screens with screens from other levels works quite well though (just the .cam file) and sometimes it retains some of that screens features (mudokons rescued/killed boards, anything that uses text).

If you replace files from the ps1 (demo was the one I knew how to find .lvl's for) version of the game and use them in the pc version surprisingly it works and the files are smaller, so you can replace all of the pc ones with ps1 ones and it'll be like 3 mb or something. I've also noticed that you can get Abe to have the really slow hop (demo hop) in the PC version and the roll from the demo in the pc version by switching some ban files around.

Might go back to editting it and trying it out later. Oh yeah also, it works vice versa, so you can put stuff from the pc version INTO the ps1 version. If you want to understand more or something just pm me.

joshkrz · #**477** 07-28-2009, 04:05 PM

So you can actually edit the the ps1 game. Thats fucking amazing.

DJ9000DEVIL · #**478** 08-11-2009, 11:01 AM

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Well I'll try but i don't think I'll be able to, they're mostly done in cmd. But using the README I might find just the command to do so. If I do I'll be sure to tell what it is.

Ps: It took me a long time figuring the Camtool command. I did just try different ways.

Edit: Using Pauls Extract program I've ripped BAN JOY BND's and a VH file for each LVL file. I might just be able to hex edit them with PSPad. I think I've found the sprites because in AO the sprites were in BAN file format. BTW pauls Extract file only uses the extract command so it's quite simple.

Hi Dude I am Max Could U help me Use The Camtool.exe plz!
Thanx

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Usually the game will lock up if you remove/replace animation files. Replacing screens with screens from other levels works quite well though (just the .cam file) and sometimes it retains some of that screens features (mudokons rescued/killed boards, anything that uses text).

If you replace files from the ps1 (demo was the one I knew how to find .lvl's for) version of the game and use them in the pc version surprisingly it works and the files are smaller, so you can replace all of the pc ones with ps1 ones and it'll be like 3 mb or something. I've also noticed that you can get Abe to have the really slow hop (demo hop) in the PC version and the roll from the demo in the pc version by switching some ban files around.

Might go back to editting it and trying it out later. Oh yeah also, it works vice versa, so you can put stuff from the pc version INTO the ps1 version. If you want to understand more or something just pm me.

LOL! awsame! could u tell us how bro!!!

Thanx *Again*

Chubfish · #**479** 08-11-2009, 12:40 PM

Okay so i've decided to postpone my Spy Taunt killing video to have time to record my CamTool tutorial/level building guide. Watch out for in about 1 week from now...I will post it here.

**JayDee** · #**480** 08-12-2009, 04:30 AM

thanks i was looking for how to use the CAMTOOL.exe as well