Should i stop being a vegetarien?

[Facsimile]

Okay, you obviously don't care enough about it if this thread hasn't helped you decide. Stop wasting your time.

[Wil]

Alternatively, you care plenty about it, because you're having to put this much thought into making such an important decision.

[Havoc]

Okay, you obviously don't care enough about it if this thread hasn't helped you decide. Stop wasting your time.

Shut up...

[Wired]

Ive been a vegetarien for about two years now, but im thinking of giving up

Quitter.

[Goresplatter]

I always thought being a total vegetarian was bad for you, can't remember exactly why now, but isn't there some necessary nutrients only found in meat? Anyways, I'm omnivorous, but I have nothing against vegetarians, it's your choice to be perfectly honest.

I tried to make my Slog a vegetarian by taking it's Scrab leg away and replacing it with a Spooce shrub, but it ate a nearby Mudokon instead, so I gave up.

[Adder]

Goresplatter, that's not true. You can get everything you need from veg. The problem is that meat contains everything you need (it's protein) where as each veg only contains certain amino acids (which make up protein). Therfore, you need to eat complimentary veg at each meal so that your body can make protein from the assortment of amino acids. Also, I think you need more energy to make protein from veg than to convert from meat... but that probably isn't true.

[Disgruntled Intern]

I tried to make my Slog a vegetarian by taking it's Scrab leg away and replacing it with a Spooce shrub, but it ate a nearby Mudokon instead, so I gave up.

Okay, that was dumb.


Anyway, I've been an on again off again vegetarian for the past few years. It honestly has nothing to do with ethics, I mean, just because I stop eating meat that doesn't mean that I will save one pig, one cow, and one chicken from being slaughtered. Either way our lovable bovine friends are destined to clog someone's arteries, so it's really up to you.

I love veal. I love the way veal is prepared before and after death. If I could club and eat a baby seal, I probably would.


...Well, not this week, but I can never say when I'll be eating meat again.


edit: Adder, one of the biggest risks of being a vegetarian, or worse yet, a vegan, is anemia.

[Mojo]

Wow. This thread has forced the infamous Disgruntled Intern to come back! I wonder if he's here to stay? If so, welcome back!

EDIT: Gah! Just saw he posted in other threads as well!

[Bullet Magnet]

No! Don't give up vegetarianism! Stick with your principles! If you don't have that, what do you have?

Uness you really want to eat meat again. Mmmm. Meat. Sweet meat. Sweet sweetsweet meat. No! Not sweet meats! they're freaky organs a brains and stuff.

Seriously, the only reasons really to give up are health reasons. Either your diet is becoming bad for you, you are pregnant and need the protein (ever heard of beans?) or are lost in the wilderness and must eat rats to survive.

[Alector]

I am a vegetarian and I feel great because there's a lot of stuff to eat. And...it's your decision, no need to ask other people, who don't even know you in real life. It's only and alone your own decision.

I stopped eating meat with a short decision but it doesn't really means that one makes a diet, no way. My father is bodybuilder and needs meat and lots of vegetables, no sweets or so. Everyone has a different eating pattern. It's still up to you.

If you can't decide, go to cauldronfoods

See you,

Alector

[Sekto Springs]

I seriously think I'm becoming a carnivore because of this thread.

[Havoc]

Now THAT will be unhealthy.

[Disgruntled Intern]

I seriously think I'm becoming a carnivore because of this thread.

Unhealthy or not, death by scurvy is just the coolest. I mean, why do you think pirates are so popular?

[Adder]

Now THAT will be unhealthy.

Not if you believe in the Atkin's Diet.

[Bullet Magnet]

There is nothing cool about scurvy. Believe me.

[Havoc]

Not if you believe in the Atkin's Diet.

Isn't Atkins about eating whatever you want and losing weight? I don't think it was about eating only meat.

As far as I know there is not a single living creature that can live on meat alone. It doesn't have enough vitamins and stuff.

[Alcar]

I can't understand how some of you can defend vegeterianism because it's unnatural or savage, when the world's animals have been feasting on each other for as long as we can tell. AND, then you'll go ahead and defend something such as homosexuality with the statement that since the animals have been proven to do it, it is natural.

You can't have one without the other. Some of you need to really step back at take a look at what you're saying, because it's entirely hypocritical (this wasn't intended at any individual in particular, I just find it really amusing).

Alcar...

[T-nex]

Wait... are you homophobic??

And i really think that Vegetarianism is a bad thing... I mean, if it's because of the thing they put in meat so that it doesn't rot as fast, just buy some ecological meat... If it's because of religion... Well i never heard of a religion that tells you not to eat meat O.o...

[General Drippik]

Simple answer: vegetarianism sucks. Eat meat you pussy.

[Alcar]

Wait... are you homophobic??

No way. I believe homosexuality is natural. All I was saying is that some people will defend two issues on one basis - but that basis will be one where they agree with it one day, but don't the next.

I mean, how can you say (EXAMPLE) homosexuality is right / natural because the animals do it, but then turn around and say that eating meat from animals is wrong, EVEN THOUGH the animals do it.

Alcar...

[Havoc]

Thats how humans work, Alcar. Get used to it. Stupidity is slowly taking over the world, so you better be ready for it.

Being vegetarian is fine, it's not in any way unhealthy if you watch what you eat and make sure you get all the vitamins and stuff you need. The reasons for being a vegetarian can be questionable, but are no reason to presure someone to go back to eating meat. After all, it's not hurting anyone.
Veganists are a whole diffrent story though. Not only don't these people eat meat. They don't want anything to do with anything that came from animals, including milk, cheese, leather, ect. That seriously cuts down on the stuff you can eat, and can thus be very unhealthy.

[Sekto Springs]

There is nothing cool about scurvy. Believe me.

Could you elaborate on the meaning of that post for me?

[Disgruntled Intern]

As far as I know there is not a single living creature that can live on meat alone. It doesn't have enough vitamins and stuff.

Carnivorous reptiles only eat meat. Hence the use of the word carnivorous.

[Havoc]

You mean snakes and the like? The kind of reptiles that eat prey that eat green food?
Carnivor doesn't automaticly mean they eat ONLY meat. Sure, they won't eat a carrot, but they get the vegies from the stomachs of their natural prey. Thats why you will never see one carnivor eat another.

Example: A big cat such as a tiger is concidered a carnivor because it eats meat. Yet, when it kills a prey it will always start eating from it's stomach first because there are vegies in there from the victims last meal. That way, without realy knowing it they still get their vegies in.

That same principle goes for pretty much every animal as far as I know, including most bigger reptiles such as snakes and lizards and stuff.

[Disgruntled Intern]

You mean snakes and the like? The kind of reptiles that eat prey that eat green food?
Carnivor doesn't automaticly mean they eat ONLY meat. Sure, they won't eat a carrot, but they get the vegies from the stomachs of their natural prey. Thats why you will never see one carnivor eat another.

Example: A big cat such as a tiger is concidered a carnivor because it eats meat. Yet, when it kills a prey it will always start eating from it's stomach first because there are vegies in there from the victims last meal. That way, without realy knowing it they still get their vegies in.

That same principle goes for pretty much every animal as far as I know, including most bigger reptiles such as snakes and lizards and stuff.

First of all, most predatory animals start eating their prey's stomachs first because it's one of the softest and virtually bone free parts of the body. N O T because they have some deep urge to consume partially digested plant matter.

Second of all, reptiles get the vitamins and such that the prey items body has ALREADY digested and processed.

Don't step to me, son.


Oh, and for the record, the dictionary defines a c a r n i v o r o u s as:

"Main Entry: car·niv·o·rous
Pronunciation: kär-'niv-(&-)r&s
Function: adjective
1 : subsisting or feeding on animal tissues
2 : of or relating to the carnivores —car·niv·o·rous·ly adverb —car·niv·o·rous·ness noun"

When you said "Carnivor doesn't automaticly mean they eat ONLY meat." I believe the word you were actually reaching for was omnivorous.

[Alector]

Bullshit here. The whole topic is just...buorgh!

[Havoc]

First of all, most predatory animals start eating their prey's stomachs first because it's one of the softest and virtually bone free parts of the body. N O T because they have some deep urge to consume partially digested plant matter.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant that they do that instinctivly, as you said, instinctively going for the softest spot first and getting their vegies in the process.

And if we would follow the dictionary, a lot of animals we concider carnivores right now should actualy be called omnivores then? Doesn't sound right to me. A lot of 'carnivores' still get vegies in, so yea...

[Disgruntled Intern]

They're carnivores because they don't INTENTIONALLY eat plant matter.

Christ, you certainly are dense.

[Havoc]

Thats what I said in my first post dude... We've been talking past each other.

[Wil]

I mean, how can you say (EXAMPLE) homosexuality is right / natural because the animals do it, but then turn around and say that eating meat from animals is wrong, EVEN THOUGH the animals do it.

You're missing an important point, Alcar. Sexual orientation has no effect on other people (taking all relationships as consenting). Eating meat has an effect on all the living organisms that have to be slaughtered to provide that meat. The point of morality is to ensure that societies, and in the bigger picture, life on Earth, can get along in the most constructive way.

Drawing parallels to the diets of other species is too limited in its scope. It's natural for a few female arthropods to eat their male mates after copulation, but I wouldn't accept that as a legitimate excuse for such behaviour in humans. Wild animals don't have the mental capacity to reconsider their diets, and probably not the body chemistry to allow it. We do (on the whole) in both cases. Wild animals are confined to their territories and climates. Technology allows us to have spread over the planet and also spread the crop we'd need to support a vegetarian climate.

Then there's the more environmental arguement, as Nate pointed out, which is a result of all that spreading.

Stupidity is slowly taking over the world, so you better be ready for it.

I've never thought about it before, but ponder this: people aren't getting more stupid. People on the whole are actually becoming more intelligent and wise, but they're trying to apply their knowledge and wisdom to many more things before they can. People in all walks of life are becoming versed in business, politics, ethics and the arts whereas before they'd all be farmers out on the field. Modern life expects this. We're just not becoming smarter at a fast enough rate. That's utterly unrelated to the topic, but the way, but I thought it would be much more poigniant and purposeful than debating food chains.