Backward messages in Stranger's Wrath -

kao_kao · #31 04-25-2005, 11:49 AM

I tried it and I surely think that it isn't fake but I can be wrong too... :O

duveaux · #32 04-25-2005, 11:58 AM

I now also tried it (without comparing it with SW) but I don't think it appeared this way in the game... It would be not easy to hide, and still almost noone noticed it...

Cort · #33 04-25-2005, 12:14 PM

Well, I referenced the actually game footage and can assure you it's all absolutly right. I have nowhere to upload my own recorded soundbyte however. But like I said, I can email it to anyone who asks.

***Xavier*** · #34 04-25-2005, 12:20 PM

mail it to me... I can upload it somewhere.
xav@oddblog.net

Cort · #35 04-25-2005, 12:30 PM

Done and done, go ahead and check your mail. It's a slight harder to make out, but I can vouch personally for it's authenticity, so that makes it all the better.

***Xavier*** · #36 04-25-2005, 12:34 PM

I'll update it tomorrow if you don't mind.
I have to get some sleep now.

Edit: if you ripped it from the game it's authentic!
sounds like he says something else before too

ANN NEELY · #37 04-25-2005, 12:35 PM

Oh my questionable goodness....that was...creepy....
But....what does it mean by "Don't trust the corporate media. The religious right is insane."?

Flying Scrab · #38 04-25-2005, 12:47 PM

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Flying Scrab … you were playing OSW and you just heard it? It plays in reverse, so that's quite an impressive trick.

No no no, I heard it, and it sounded backwards, so I was gonna post if anyone could rip the sound and play it backwards. That's what someone did for a clip in Halo 2.

***Nate*** · #39 04-25-2005, 03:36 PM

Interesting, but not exactly enlightening. I think that this is what you call a practical joke people.

Rock bands in the 60's and 70's did this all the time for shits and giggles so Michael Bross must have decided to get in on the gig. It's probably his voice anyway, not Lorne's.

So let's not read too much into this and go crazy with wild accusations of brainwashing.

that jerk · #40 04-25-2005, 04:43 PM

Thx cort, odd I never heard of it and i live in the US better stop living under that rock, *good bye my cromagnon friends*, lol

Leto · #41 04-25-2005, 09:57 PM

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Interesting, but not exactly enlightening. I think that this is what you call a practical joke people.

Rock bands in the 60's and 70's did this all the time for shits and giggles so Michael Bross must have decided to get in on the gig. It's probably his voice anyway, not Lorne's.

So let's not read too much into this and go crazy with wild accusations of brainwashing.

Indeedy. If you reverse 'Another One Bites The Dust', it states " It's fun to smoke marijuana.".

I am yet to compare the actual game shtuff, but I'll wait until Xavier uploads them. I can't be stuffed ripping it from the game... Far too much effort for the holidays.

I still think it's sounds rather blibbley if reversed... But I'll halt my opinions until I can back them up with evidence.

Gretin · #42 04-25-2005, 10:08 PM

I think the one that Facsimile has posted is the adjusted one, they changed it to make it clearer what he says. If you go to the thread and download the first one in it, it doesn't sound so clear.

Leto · #43 04-25-2005, 11:07 PM

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I think the one that Facsimile has posted is the adjusted one, they changed it to make it clearer what he says. If you go to the thread and download the first one in it, it doesn't sound so clear.

All it is is a change in volume...

Gretin · #44 04-26-2005, 01:57 AM

I don't think it's quite that simple, I think it might just be a fiddle with an equalizer of some sort, just changing the volume of certain frequencies. I could be wrong of course, but I'm sure the second one is more than just amplification.

Seargentbig · #45 04-26-2005, 03:07 AM

Damn! I heard this the first time I saw this cutscene, and figured it was backwards talking, and filed it away so I could consider it later...
...but I forgot. I didn't do anything about it after that. Maybe it was swept away by me playing the game...

***Wil*** · #46 04-27-2005, 11:11 AM

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No no no, I heard it, and it sounded backwards, so I was gonna post if anyone could rip the sound and play it backwards. That's what someone did for a clip in Halo 2.

I get you.

Consider my above sarcasm now defunct.

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So let's not read too much into this and go crazy with wild accusations of brainwashing.

It could be a practical joke, but it could be a more serious minded easter egg. We know Sherry is against organised religion, and OWI are more than likely completely against this Religious Right thing. The same goes for the mass media. It's sounds like OWI's philosophies through and through.

EDIT: Cort's recording has been uploaded to TOE. Right click here to download. Thanks Cort - the extended message really adds to it. ‘Seige’, now where have I heard that before relating to OWI?

***Nate*** · #47 04-27-2005, 03:24 PM

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It could be a practical joke, but it could be a more serious minded easter egg. We know Sherry is against organised religion, and OWI are more than likely completely against this Religious Right thing. The same goes for the mass media. It's sounds like OWI's philosophies through and through.

Yes, but it's not like there's a secret plan to brainwash us into agreement with the Oddworld ethos, which is what some of the more paranoid members were implying.

Voodoo Hand · #48 04-27-2005, 04:32 PM

Brainwashed??
How could anyone be brainwashed by unintelligible droning that requires outside
programs to rip and replay it ?
This is not subliminal it`s original form ,it`s gibberish.

Leto · #49 04-27-2005, 04:51 PM

OK, the rip is definatley convincing, compared to the previous altered sample. Consider my previous statements taken back.

*cough*

***Nate*** · #50 04-27-2005, 06:00 PM

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Brainwashed??
How could anyone be brainwashed by unintelligible droning that requires outside programs to rip and replay it ?
This is not subliminal it`s original form ,it`s gibberish.

A lot of people beleive that you can be brainwashed by subliminal messages, even if you can't understand them at a conscious level. Plenty of metal bands have been sued for having phrases like "go and commit suicide" played backwards in their songs. So when a kid commits suicide their parents say that it *must* be because of the brainwashing and not just that they are crap parents who couldn't realise when their kids are crying out for help.

Voodoo Hand · #51 04-27-2005, 07:16 PM

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A lot of people beleive that you can be brainwashed by subliminal messages, even if you can't understand them at a conscious level.

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Yea, i am with you there, but my point is that the backwards message is not
subliminal itself. The message must be understandable in it`s own right to have
any sway on the stream of consciousness.
If the statments were played at low volume, or greatly sped up, or slowed down,
and played under the games audio track, than that would be subliminal.
If your subconscious can take a reversed string of words, played off tempo,
and render the correct meaning, your a better dog than i.

And as for that Judas Priest thing, the trial was about" hidden messages"
not backward recordings.

Leto · #52 04-27-2005, 09:10 PM

'Hidden messages' *wink, wink* can be backwards messages. Backwards messages are commonly hidden, no?

And the Judas Priest thing just reminds me of Bill Hicks...

Voodoo Hand · #53 04-28-2005, 03:19 AM

Looks like i am wrong again. There are studies that that have found that some
of the population can decode reversed phrases subconsciously, but not all of us.
How strange !

The transcripts from the Judas Priest trial state the two clowns in question
" drank beer, smoked marijuana , and listened to the album Stained Class for SEVEN OR EIGHT HOURS."

Jesus Christ on a crutch!! if i had to listen to Rob Halford yodel on and on for seven hours they would need to call a SWAT Team on me.

***Wil*** · #54 04-30-2005, 09:10 AM

I didn't spot that anyone was seriously implying OWI had resorted to brainwashing, but then it is tricky to judge tone over the Internet. To demonstrate, I will type the following:-

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Looks like i am wrong again. There are studies that that have found that some
of the population can decode reversed phrases subconsciously, but not all of us.
How strange !

It gets weirder than that : did you know that everything we say actually contains reverse messages which reveal what we actually believe and how we truely feel? It's true!

***Nate*** · #55 05-01-2005, 05:59 PM

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It gets weirder than that : did you know that everything we say actually contains reverse messages which reveal what we actually believe and how we truely feel? It's true!

Please explain...

Or am I missing some vital irony?

panuru · #56 05-01-2005, 06:25 PM

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Please explain...

Or am I missing some vital irony?

People don't always say what they truly mean.

***Nate*** · #57 05-01-2005, 06:47 PM

...But we generally know what we mean to say. Whereas Max is saying that we can reveal our true meaning unintentionally backwards, which makes no sense to me.

So in the future, please don't try and answer a question specifically directed to someone else.

***Wil*** · #58 05-02-2005, 10:01 AM

It's satire.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/.../aa071700a.htm

***Nate*** · #59 05-02-2005, 06:47 PM

Heh, that's pretty funny Max

Blisterz Booty · #60 05-02-2005, 07:19 PM

The video that Cort put sounds real. But that thing about reversed speech, sounds like a crock-of-bull.