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the BNP have posted a load of leaflets around my area with these ridiculous ideas in them, like not sending british troops to foreign wars. they also have a load of pictures in this leaflet of apparent supporters of the BNP. turns out most of them didnt even know their picture was being used in it and do not support BNP in the slightest. one of the pictures was of an American photographer and his family.

there was a story in the paper recently about the BNP. apparently a member was taking pictures of the cathedral for their leaflet but he was chucked off the premises by staff, and by staff i mean peple who worked in the cathedral.

EDIT: classic work with the handkerchief. they probably knew you and your brother would rough 'em up a bit if they tried anything.
i'm sorry, it just never gets old.

The BNP put my brother on Redwatch. Got his name wrong, though. They are a bunch of fuckers. I'm sure you remember when they all used to be skinheads. They've adapted a more professional look now, but I see right through them.

they're just a bunch of bloody thugs. the leaders are all smartly dressed as if butter woudnt melt, but they still use their members to lie and bully people into joining them. half the time those particular members are the skinheads.

the day they get into power is the day i put a loaded shotgun in my mouth. i wouldnt want to see an England the way they picture it. i'd rather vote for the fucking Monster Raving Looney Party than them bastards.

Got it spot on.

Yup thats happened to me before, little chavy kids saying "ere mate, youve nicked a phone off ma' chava", when its my phone they saw. I really hate chavs, i would kill all of them if i had the chance.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chav

Spot on.

I think maybe you should reaserch the BNP with a little less bias, the idea of them being fascists is rather overblown in my opinion.

Also, yes i completely agree, chavs suck. spot on.

I've read their Manifesto, for Christ's sake. The people are just British Nazis, they just aren't in power, and don't have much support. They have their opposition on fucking Redwatch telling their supporters to do to those people what they think they deserve. They are not a good party. No decent party would do such a disgusting thing.

This is the first few policies on the BNP website, I have bolded everything I don't like, underlined everything I find laughable and italicized the blatent lie I found.

Enjoy!

Thank you WOF. Now i will do a similar thing and underline anything i think is ok

Anything i have not underlined i either do not like or have no strong opinions about. Enjoy

British National Party Policies:

IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

EUROPE - back to British independence!

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!

The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

ECONOMY - British workers first!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes

That first paragraph sounds awfully familiar.

BNP or my ramblings? Because reading what I wrote, I feel that I've heard a similar thing before too, I just can't put my finger on what.

BNP. I can't specify, but it just sounds vaguely similar to some other ridiculous bullshit.

Looking back over it, I see what you mean. It reminds me of something, but I remember reading something else and thinking that it reminds me of something, which must be this.

The two things must be related somehow.

EDIT: I haven't a fucking clue what I just meant, reading what I just put.

I got the gist of it.

Quite a nice encounter you had with some newborns there. I was out with my friends once, and these two kids came along, had to be like 5 or 6 years old, and started trying to hit us with sticks. It feels so awesome to grab them by the hood and drag them around in the grass.

Oh, God, tell me about it. Kids are getting more and more cocky. Especially primary school/young middle/high school ones. I think that they think that they're intimidating. They're just comical. They were literally beneath my stomach.

BNP = British Nazi Party? or Big Nasty Pussie?

Are the two events even connected in any way?

I suppose maybe if the infants were BNP supporters. Seeing as though they were hoodie-clad and walked like someone with a slinky stuck down their spine, I should imagine that they are.

Ironically the first thing the BNP would do after they got into power would be to cleanse our streets of them, people like that are only allowed to exist because of our liberality and affluence and they don't even give a damn about it.

Way to fucking generalise, people.

I know someone in the BNP. Said person is neither racist, nor a Nazi, nor a skinhead, nor a thug. Yes there are many racist members of the BNP, but not everyone in the party is that way. Being in the BNP does not make you automatically racist. It's so easy to target a small party that has a number of radical members, because the non-radical members never get a chance to speak their piece. Let us not forget that Labour used to be considered radical and extremist. I won't deny there are many extremist members in the BNP, one of whom is regrettably the head of the party-Nick Griffin. But not everyone in the BNP is an evil Nazi thug like David Cameron and others claim. I do not support the BNP for 2 reasons- the virtue that if I did, it would merely be empowering the problem members as 1 of said problem members is the party leader, so any support to him would be counterproductive. 2nd reason is I disagree on certain policies of theirs. However I will say this- if the BNP was removed of all the problem members, I'm sure a lot of people would have more time for them.

So in conclusion, don't fucking generalise.

i see your point.

I'm generalizing the party by the manifesto, since that's what they're obliged to do once they get in it seems like a fair and logical conclusion to come to.

I understand that but I don't see anything in the manifesto that says "To be a member of us you must hate and be violent to everyone who isnt white and shave your heads and wear swastikas".

Interpretation is everything in politics. Generalising based on manifestos, I understand where you're coming from but its not always applicable. Generalising on actions is more applicable but even then dangerous- I could say that all members of the Labour party are tax-fiddling moneygrabbers based on the recent scandal, but that would hardly be fair.

I'm basically saying you can never generalise. I understand why you did and I see where you were coming from but I still don't believe people can ever truely do so.

+rep for munch's master.

If they don't want to be associated with a political party that openly enforces jingoism they should make their own, and frankly I actually agree with you by believing they'd steal most if not all of the BNP's supporters.

I do agree though that it's unfair to make strawman politicals out of the BNP and too easy to claim they're all evil neo nazis, truth holds a higher value than that.

Problem is if they made their own there'd just be the "These are ex-BNP, they are all evil!" stuff from the press. Much how NF members splitting off into the BNP resulted in the Neo-Nazi Skinhead label for all of them.

The biggest benefit for and biggest enemy of democracy & politics is the media.

At least we agree on something.

Heh.We normally agree on lots of things. I suppose such potentially polarising issues like this are bound to result in drastic differences of opinion, though.

Someone should make a thread about this.


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