Depression

lindsey · #1 03-22-2004, 04:54 PM

Ever got it before when I get it I get suicide ideas. I mostly cry for about an hour. Sometimes I take a pen and scratch myself with it. So do's anyone get it.

paramiteabe · #2 03-22-2004, 06:04 PM

I am sure everybody gets it its just a matter how different people deal with it. If your suicidal then you need to seek some serious help. When I am depressed I am usually in a very bad mood. and I tell people don't talk to me or I eat something which I shouldnt do. I tend to want keep myself away from the rest of the world to sit and think about the problem usually it helps being by myself after an hour. I tend to go take a drive somewhere and just simply talk to God. And well it works for me.

Majic · #3 03-22-2004, 06:34 PM

If I'm in a bad mood, I say it. Best to let other peopl eknow you're pissed off and not afraid to show it than walking around looking like a sympathy-fisher.

oddguy · #4 03-22-2004, 07:48 PM

Well, I have Social Anxeity Disorder. That means that I'm affraid of public places and interaction with people outside the family. But I haven't had any of those symptoms in a looong while. Not after I started taking Paxil CR.
*insert wink with a special ding noise and sparkle*
Yes, with Paxil CR I was back to my old self.

-oddguy

The Red Muse · #5 03-22-2004, 08:22 PM

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Ever got it before when I get it I get suicide ideas.

Ok, let me tell you this;
Suicide is not an answer. Suicide will not solve any of your problems. Commiting suicide is more like being too afraid to face the problems in your life. It's cowardly... and selfish. You'll get rid of your own problems, but you only cause even more pain and sorrow to those who care about you.

When you think of suicide, do you ever think about your parents?
How would they feel?
How would they feel when they come home one sunny afternoon and find you dead in your own room? Think about that.

Suicide is something no one should ever even think of.
I learned my lesson. I have my right wrist to remind me. Those scars will never heal-- they will follow me for the rest of my days.

*sighs*
Holy f*ck... I'm trembling...

...I'm fine...

-Red Muse

Sl'askia · #6 03-23-2004, 01:37 AM

Depression...hmm...get that off and on. When I am depressed I just don't to do anything and close myself off from the rest of the world. Yeah I still talk to people on line an stuff...but it's more of an automatic response thing then...

It doesn't help I have an anxiety disorder either...

Mac the Janitor · #7 03-23-2004, 05:18 AM

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Ok, let me tell you this;
Suicide is not an answer. Suicide will not solve any of your problems. Commiting suicide is more like being too afraid to face the problems in your life. It's cowardly... and selfish. You'll get rid of your own problems, but you only cause even more pain and sorrow to those who care about you.

When you think of suicide, do you ever think about your parents?
How would they feel?
How would they feel when they come home one sunny afternoon and find you dead in your own room? Think about that.

Suicide is something no one should ever even think of.
I learned my lesson. I have my right wrist to remind me. Those scars will never heal-- they will follow me for the rest of my days.

*sighs*
Holy f*ck... I'm trembling...

...I'm fine...

-Red Muse

And I vote YOU as Official OWF Parent #2.

You're gonna have to marry Oddguy now.

Hobo · #8 03-23-2004, 06:10 AM

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You're gonna have to marry Oddguy now.

Damn, there goes my chance with him....

Anyway, on topic what Muse said on suicide is very true indeed, and those thoughts have shunned me away from suicide many a time.

You also have to keep your problems in proportion, so what you've broken up with your partner/ fucked up an exam. Much worse things happen to people all the time, Famine, Murder, Rape, Drought and stuff along those lines.

oddguy · #9 03-23-2004, 07:30 AM

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And I vote YOU as Official OWF Parent #2.

You're gonna have to marry Oddguy now.

And I vote Mac as Offical OWF MatchMaker.

-=[oddguy

Jacob · #10 03-23-2004, 09:21 AM

I tend to get Homocidal when i'm depressed, which isn't the most productive way to be, just ask the heads in the freezer.

Suicide is the bravest thing anyone can do, however, i shy away from the idea because i believe in Karma and shtuffs...and that suicide is a bad thing if you're not truly screwed [disabled to the point of novelty carpetness].

I'm interested in Oddguys clinical anxiety thing, interested in the sense that has he always had it or did it develop because his parents home schooled him. I'd never home school my child, it'd be awful on them and i now feel sorry for Oddguy...well...by 'sorry' i mean i went "Oh, right...okay." and then slowly phased it out.

On a different note, to cope with suicidalness i always find it best to make others feel worse. Point out their flaws, make a mockery of them, if they say something along the lines of "My Dads half dead." in a heated fury, whilst shouting at you because of an argument that was started by that said person, reply with "Which half? The top half or the bottom half?". This'll not only make others laugh, but also make said person believe they are siding with you...and be pissed off...yes.

oddguy · #11 03-23-2004, 09:29 AM

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I'm interested in Oddguys clinical anxiety thing, interested in the sense that has he always had it or did it develop because his parents home schooled him. I'd never home school my child, it'd be awful on them and i now feel sorry for Oddguy...well...by 'sorry' i mean i went "Oh, right...okay." and then slowly phased it out.

Seriously, you don't need to feel sorry for me. Anyway, I developed Social Anxeity Disorder after my Dad got laid off suddenly and lost his job. We had NO Christmas. It was a bad time...really bad.

-oddguy

Nath · #12 03-23-2004, 10:46 AM

I'm sorry to hear about all of your bad times people, and I pray that people with serious despression get better.

When I get depressed about stuff, I usually find it helps to write a story/poem about the way I feel, then when that's done I feel a whole lot better.

Jacob · #13 03-23-2004, 12:36 PM

'Seriously, you don't need to feel sorry for me'

Seriously, i wasn't.

I tend to write poems for some strange reason when i get all "GRARRRR"...but hurting people verbally is better.

Sekto Springs · #14 03-23-2004, 12:54 PM

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Seriously, you don't need to feel sorry for me. Anyway, I developed Social Anxeity Disorder after my Dad got laid off suddenly and lost his job. We had NO Christmas. It was a bad time...really bad.

-oddguy

I have depression, doctor said so, and I hate it! I know what it's like, man. I can think of about three years we didn't have christmas, or my birthday. My family is very twisted: parents divorced, little money, injured mom, asshole-father, and the rest of my family is either in the hospital or in England. My life is hard but I make the best of it and try to be positive when it comes to family matters, but it's amasing how hard it is to be positive when your in a position like mine. But I have lots of friends and they usually help me out when they can.

I also have ADD, it sucks the gay right out of Liberaci's ass.

Dave · #15 03-23-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Suicide is the bravest thing anyone can do

Contrary to what Jacob said (and not to start an argument, of course), suicide is nothing near the bravest possible thing.
But I can see that if you are doing to save someone, or for a cause that it would actually help for whatever reason, sure, then.
Sure at times it may seem logical, and you might think it's the only choice. But I personally say that only cowards commit suicide.
It isn't worth it to end your life because something went fubar. So you think someone out there you love hates you? Well, someone else loves you. You think that your homelife sucks? Someone out there has it worse than you, but they are probably getting along the best they can without killing themselves.
Everyone considers it at some point or another. There are people who apply it and people who decide against it.
Hurting yourself if seriously not cool. I mean, its one thing to scratch and another entirely to bleed your arm out.
I hope to All That is Mighty that you aren't considering hurting yourself, or depressed at all.
Get counselling if you need to. Ask for some kind of anti-depressant, like Prozac or Paxcil.
Depression can come and go, too. Manic depressants can have healthy and happy times for a minimum of two weeks and go on for years, but then they can lapse into bouts of clinical depression which can last from two weeks to years and years. It is certainly no picnic, I'll tell ya.

Mac the Janitor · #16 03-23-2004, 03:23 PM

Wow.

You really earned my respect there, Dave.

GrigtheSlig · #17 03-23-2004, 03:30 PM

I am clinically deppressed as of now, and on Meds... But my doc says I might have Manic Deppressive, and that's uncool. I know how it feels when you want to kill yourself. It's really not cool either. I used to plan ways of killing myself without actually killing myself. But now i'm getting better. All I have to say is... Don't kill yourself or try to kill yourself, it makes you feel horible about yourself.

Abe's son · #18 03-23-2004, 03:30 PM

When ever i'm depressed I laugh at others misfortune or beat the shit out of Nick. Schitzofrania (...I butcherd the word but what the hell...) dosn't help out much either...

Al the Glukkon · #19 03-23-2004, 03:43 PM

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But I personally say that only cowards commit suicide.

I agree. I would never commit suicide. It would be horrible for my parents and my little brother.There are better ways than killing yourself.

Majic · #20 03-23-2004, 03:55 PM

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I am clinically deppressed as of now, and on Meds... But my doc says I might have Manic Deppressive, and that's uncool. I know how it feels when you want to kill yourself. It's really not cool either. I used to plan ways of killing myself without actually killing myself. But now i'm getting better. All I have to say is... Don't kill yourself or try to kill yourself, it makes you feel horible about yourself.

This may be a tad vile to say, but whoa. Your whole family is messed up

But just to ask a question, hwo come depression is such a widely talked about subject, expirience, etc... these days. You never hear about suicide or of so many people taking drugs back in the day. Honestly, nowadays it just seems to be a bunch of self-induced warping of your own mind.

All of the media and school attention on it; it seems like something to force upon yourself of something, because that's how you supposedly should feel, or how you'll get attention. It doesn't even have to be entirely concious. Shout your nerve imbalances and such all you want, my opinion lies on self-induction from over-hypage.

Jacob · #21 03-24-2004, 03:12 AM

People seem to think that they're actually depressed when really they're just sad. Unless it's diagnosed people, you can't say "Oh, i'm depressed...blah" because you could just be down.

I don't see how anybody can say that commiting suicide isn't brave. Sure, it may not be the right thing to do under certain circumstances but have you ever tried taking your own life? Its hard to end your life, not knowing what'll be awaiting you when you die. And then there's the whole thing of if it goes wrong and you just end up crippling yourself...people who commit suicide go against their subconcious instinct for survival and they are brave.

I find it interesting that so many people who live their lives according to Gods wishes and not their own are suffering from some type of personality flaw or disorder. Maybe if they did things they wanted to do for a whole week and tried living their life on the otherside of the fence for a time they may not be so down.

paramiteabe · #22 03-24-2004, 03:52 AM

Life on the other side of the fence isn't all peaches and roses eather. I don't believe there is two sides of life. I think people are afraid to actually live their lives. Life was never ment to be easy and people just got to learn to live with it.

Because the fortunes of life does not last forever and it ultimately will turn out the same way in you being depressed or down about something. Life no matter what side it is, isn't perfect. Because somewhere some day your going to want more and its not going to happen. Your not going to be satisfied with the way things are. And there is nothing you or anybody else in this world can do anything about it.

Being suicidal is very cowardly because your finding the easy way out and not faceing your problem head on. You can't say your brave because your fighting your inner self. Because in many ways thats actually being more or less weak in spirit. If your conflicting with yourself that means you have a problem how is that being brave? Killing yourself is like saying "Im scared to face my problem and the only way out is to kill myself."

I can understand when you said going and actually comitting the suicide as being a brave action. But actually going and killing yourself over a problem means you let your inner self take over which results in eather death of being injured. Thats not being brave thats being stupid. Its just an excuse.

Jacob · #23 03-24-2004, 10:36 AM

'Being suicidal is very cowardly because your finding the easy way out and not faceing your problem head on.'

Since when has slashing your wrists been easy? Or taking an overdose? Or inhaling exhaust fumes? Suffocating? Burning yourself? Running infront of a train?

Bionic · #24 03-24-2004, 10:55 AM

When I'm miserable or sad, I just do what I do when I'm angry. Hit stuff. Hard. If you're not the hitting type, go for a walk somewhere quiet.

I'm probably the only one, but I agree with Jacob on the suicide matter..

Hobo · #25 03-24-2004, 11:01 AM

When I'm miserable I tend just to keep it to myself, call it stone age of me not to share and to try and be a man, but I just can't share problems with anyone except my closest of friends, be the known to me in the flesh, or by the magic of the internet. Actually, I am moretell people more on the internet because I know that their reaction won't affect my daily life.

Actually thinking about it, I'm miserable most of the time. Maybe I should do something to cheer myself up, like get a life.

[/hoborant]

Di$array · #26 03-24-2004, 11:17 AM

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Jacob · #27 03-24-2004, 12:02 PM

'Actually thinking about it, I'm miserable most of the time. Maybe I should do something to cheer myself up, like get a life.'

I'm sure PA will let you borrow his, what with him not using it and all.

Majic · #28 03-24-2004, 12:22 PM

Though I don't like to be guessing or theorizing, I'd say people who commit suicide really don't feel there's any other option. From viewing the outside, yes, it does sem quite easy and cowardly. But imagine yourself in a warped state of mind, thinking nobody would care anyways. Then compound that with extreme levels of stress and exhaustion.

I definately wouldn't say it's cowardly, but not really brave either. Though I must admit, it'd take some balls to kill yourself.

Dave · #29 03-24-2004, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
people who commit suicide go against their subconcious instinct for survival and they are brave.

Okay, I understand your point, but I don't think that brave is the word for it. It's more like self-controll, or maybe self-defiance. I'm not sure.

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Originally posted by Majic
But imagine yourself in a warped state of mind, thinking nobody would care anyways.

Buddy, I've been there. But I lack the testicular fortitude to actually go through with physically harming myself. Sure, I can look in the mirror and cuss and swear and verbally degrade myself for hours, but I could never hurt myself.

Esus · #30 03-25-2004, 07:55 AM

I'm sorry if I'm insensitive but I have no place for people who do what Lindsey described.
I know a person who would probably say the same thing as Lindsey, and I laugh at them. I can't sympathise witht he depressives, its a pathetic annoyance which, if they want, can control. Its stupid becoming depressed, incredibly stupid... people should learn to look on the bright side of life... or just kill themselves and stop faking it and remove the annoyance from my life.