Shop Hack

Codek · #1 03-08-2004, 10:30 AM

I really like the shop hack. It lets users reward themselves for their contribution. They can give themselves custom titles, stars, avatars, and so on.

I think it would make for a great addition to this forum. We were all talking about how to reward members for participation, well I think this is the answer!

For every post you make, you get $1, and you can buy a custom title, avatar, colored stars, etc. in the shop. You can set the price of each item, and even donate money to users.

The donate money feature could be used by admins as prizes for competitions we hold on the forums.

Just think of the possibilities!

Hobo · #2 03-08-2004, 11:02 AM

Sorry, I've already suggested it and Alcar turned it down, but I think it's a good idea anyway

Codek · #3 03-08-2004, 11:18 AM

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Sorry, I've already suggested it and Alcar turned it down, but I think it's a good idea anyway

Alcar isn't the only person on this forum you know. We don't have to bow down to him.

I say we appeal the idea.

SeaRex · #4 03-08-2004, 11:24 AM

Although I really do like the idea, people may just post meaningless crap over and over to earn money. It would be like giving them incentive to post things just barely bordering on spam (not quite enough to warrant a post deletion or warning).

But even though I don't like the prospect of rewards on the basis of post count alone, it's still a really neat idea.

Hobo · #5 03-08-2004, 11:26 AM

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Alcar isn't the only person on this forum you know. We don't have to bow down to him.

I say we appeal the idea.

I'm for that, put it to a poll perhaps?

Codek · #6 03-08-2004, 11:29 AM

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Although I really do like the idea, people may just post meaningless crap over and over to earn money. It would be like giving them incentive to post things just barely bordering on spam (not quite enough to warrant a post deletion or warning).

But even though I don't like the idea of rewards on the basis of post count alone, it's still a really neat idea.

I do agree with you. People will post more to get something they want. If the moderators and admins did their damn job properly, there would be less spam. Or perhaps even no spam.

If people post spam, there should be a penalty. Like a $50 penalty or something. + you would get your post removed. Sure it would increase moderator workload, but the moderators here are lazy anyway.

Yeah. And if worse comes to worst, a bought account modification could always be confiscated.

It doesn't really suprise me that Alcar would turn down such an idea. He is a lazy forum nazi, and hates the idea of anyone with an account more special than his. He's had many chances to prove us wrong on that one, but never taken them up.

Keep the support coming.

Codek · #7 03-08-2004, 11:30 AM

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I'm for that, put it to a poll perhaps?

Right, I'll do that. "Shop Hack Poll" thread will be created in FS&H.

***Alcar*** · #8 03-08-2004, 09:37 PM

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He is a lazy forum nazi, and hates the idea of anyone with an account more special than his.

That is so ridiculous. I don't care have flashy my account is (I wouldn't even consider it flashy), and I have proved it, time after time.

I willingly gave up my name being plastered on a total of four forums, in favour of only one (Forum Suggestions & Feedback). I was also the one who suggested I give up Oddworld Help and the Spoiler Forum so that deserving members could take the reigns as moderators. I also removed the Administrators and Super Moderators from being shown on the Show Groups page, leaving only the forum Moderators.

I am not a nazi, I am a democratic leader. And just like any democratic leader, they must turn down propositions. You learn quite a lot when you are in a position like myself, I know I empathise with John Howard a hell of a lot more than I used to.

Alcar...

Codek · #9 03-08-2004, 09:45 PM

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I am a democratic leader.

What sort of democracy ignores the majority? 4 to 1 against Alcar, you are the only person who doesn't like the shop hack idea. Don't try and cover it up with a speach straight from the desks of George W Bush.

oddguy · #10 03-08-2004, 10:15 PM

Bush isn't a democrat.

Sorry, I just had to say it.

***Alcar*** · #11 03-08-2004, 10:30 PM

Oh, so this is about majority rules?

There you are wrong. What is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular. What about your primary argument where I was denying the Shop Hack for my own personal gain? Obviously I proved you wrong, and now you've reduced yourself to using the same old, same old, "democratic" argument. You use argument after argument until you've exhausted them, then you totally disregard them.

Of course the members want more, that's what they strive for. We will not hand them it on a silver platter. Otherwise, the novelty of custom titles and ranks wears off. As I mentioned earlier, if this were a Final Fantasy forum, I would have no problem with introducing such an addition. But this isn't a Final Fantasy forum, and we aren't about buying items.

It is detrimental to the forums in the long run.

Alcar...

Codek · #12 03-09-2004, 07:03 PM

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Bush isn't a democrat.

Sorry, I just had to say it.

You're right, but he IS a retard, which is the point I was trying to get across.

Alcar, this isn't about an argument. It's not about 'winning' some kind of fight. You deny that this forum is a real community, you want it to be just plain OW, but the fact of the matter is, none of your users want it that way.

Saying "what's most popular is not always what's best" is like insisting you know better than the majority. Which, I might add, is a very arrogant stance. Perhaps for once, you should just let this forum grow in the way it wants to. It's the majority that makes a forum what it is, not some stuffy mod who thinks he knows best.

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We will not hand them it on a silver platter.

As though it would really be any effort in the first place. Which is why a shop hack would be good, it means users can reward themselves when they participate. All you have to do is moderate it (which is a job that is split between lots of other people too), and check up on bugs/flaws.

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But this isn't a Final Fantasy forum, and we aren't about buying items.

Just because it's called "shop hack" doesn't mean it is about buying things. Consider it exchanging post count for something more meaningful, like a colorful rank, or a custom title.

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It is detrimental to the forums in the long run.

Don't be so expediant in your decisions of what the future holds. If things continue the way that they are going now, this forum will stagnate very quickly. There is nothing to celebrate here. It pales in comparison to even some of the most boring forums. This forum is the most basic, skin and bones there is. Why not make it an experience? Why not make it exciting? WTF have you got to lose?

***Alcar*** · #13 03-09-2004, 09:23 PM

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Alcar, this isn't about an argument. It's not about 'winning' some kind of fight. You deny that this forum is a real community, you want it to be just plain OW, but the fact of the matter is, none of your users want it that way.

Saying "what's most popular is not always what's best" is like insisting you know better than the majority. Which, I might add, is a very arrogant stance. Perhaps for once, you should just let this forum grow in the way it wants to. It's the majority that makes a forum what it is, not some stuffy mod who thinks he knows best.

As though it would really be any effort in the first place. Which is why a shop hack would be good, it means users can reward themselves when they participate. All you have to do is moderate it (which is a job that is split between lots of other people too), and check up on bugs/flaws.

Just because it's called "shop hack" doesn't mean it is about buying things. Consider it exchanging post count for something more meaningful, like a colorful rank, or a custom title.

Don't be so expediant in your decisions of what the future holds. If things continue the way that they are going now, this forum will stagnate very quickly. There is nothing to celebrate here. It pales in comparison to even some of the most boring forums. This forum is the most basic, skin and bones there is. Why not make it an experience? Why not make it exciting? WTF have you got to lose?

You sure seem to make everything you get into an argument. I do not deny the forums are a real community, either. We do not want it to be plain Oddworld, which is why we offer Off Topic Discussion and Non Oddworld Art & Literature. We focus on Oddworld, and I do admit that the focus has been diminishing. Something I'm not proud of.

The quote I quoted, was not said with any arrogance. I am a leader, and it is my duty to respond to the requests of the community. I have responded, quite calmly, once again, contrary to the 'colourful' image you used earlier.

The forums aren't meant to be an 'experience'. They are meant to be a discussion forum, not a circus.

Alcar...

Joshy · #14 03-09-2004, 10:46 PM

I say we bow down to superiority of Alcar, and this isnt a democratic forum mind you

its owned by the admin and supermod. The forum is run under the monarchy system of the medieval age. We are all peasants and we need to worship our superiors.
(exception: Majic and Hobo

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To the point, i dont like this idea. The End.

Hobo · #15 03-10-2004, 06:00 AM

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(exception: Majic and Hobo

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You fool! How can you not worship Majic?

Majic · #16 03-10-2004, 03:17 PM

Wait, now lets just hold up a minute- I'm on the same scale of lowliness as a gentleman in rags with a penis growth on his head? That's it. I'm trading in my beat up junker of an RV and going for a Lexus.

Codek · #17 03-10-2004, 04:08 PM

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I say we bow down to superiority of Alcar, and this isnt a democratic forum mind you

its owned by the admin and supermod. The forum is run under the monarchy system of the medieval age. We are all peasants and we need to worship our superiors.
(exception: Majic and Hobo

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To the point, i dont like this idea. The End.

You don't like the idea because you suck Alcar off.

This forum is run by the people that use it. Whether you like it or not that is a fact. The admin may own the forum, he may actually make the physical changes, but in reality WE the people are what makes this place what it is. We are the ones that make all the threads, the posts, the CONTENT.

It is a well known fact that an Admin is treading on thin ice the moment he starts ignoring the people he serves. An Admin should never be mistaken for a leader. There is no such thing as a leader in the world of the forum, only moderators, and dictators. An Admins job is to both moderate, and maintain the forums. An admin who thinks his job is to just lead is known as a dictator.

And if Alcar doesn't start ****ing listening to us, then we will just leave and go to other more interesting forums. We aren't held down by any kind of magical forcefield. We can leave when we want. In fact, probably the only thing stopping us from leaving, is the fact that we don't want to end up missing our forum friends.

I know I am leaving this place. Once I've finished with all the threads I'm participating in, I'll be blocking the OWF email, shutting down my PM system, and switching to invisible mode. Moving on to greener pastures, because this field has just turned to mud.

Majic · #18 03-10-2004, 04:21 PM

Hold on there, cowboy. Your generalizing the forum as a whole based off of Alcar, and then leave us? Come on, at least go out with a bang. Hack in and change Alcar's account title to "Asswiping Dictator" or something like that.

Seargentbig · #19 03-10-2004, 04:26 PM

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Moving on to greener pastures, because this field has just turned to mud.

Only where you've been trampling it.

Codek · #20 03-10-2004, 04:29 PM

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Hold on there, cowboy. Your generalizing the forum as a whole based off of Alcar, and then leave us? Come on, at least go out with a bang. Hack in and change Alcar's account title to "Asswiping Dictator" or something like that.

That's the idea of the century. Sadly it's now not possible to hack into vBulletin the way I used to, because a security loophole I was exploiting was fixed when vB3 came out.

But I am going to search for exploits and cracks, just to see if I can still do it.

We will see, time will tell. I'm leaving this forum because I can't be bothered with it any more - hacking it would just be more effort to prove what? That I don't like Alcar?

I wouldn't even be around anymore to take the credit.

Codek · #21 03-10-2004, 04:30 PM

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Only where you've been trampling it.

You are also going to be a candidate for a hacked account.

oddguy · #22 03-10-2004, 04:35 PM

Death...don't leave just because of Alcar. Why don't you guys work out your differences so you can stay and everybody will be happy?

-oddguy

Majic · #23 03-10-2004, 04:37 PM

Actually, it wouldn't prove much, but would provide a good laugh to everyone.

Codek · #24 03-10-2004, 04:39 PM

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Death...don't leave just because of Alcar. Why don't you guys work out your differences so you can stay and everybody will be happy.

-oddguy

Because I am fed up with these forums anyway. They are boring/lack depth.

If and when I find a new forum, I will let you all know about it. I'm keeping my eye out for a forum with plenty of features, but not too many members. So stay tuned for the mass exodus of "THIS CRAPPY FORUM"!

oddguy · #25 03-10-2004, 04:44 PM

These forums are great! Just the right amount of people...and when we don't have OW info...Off Topic is a fun place to be. Lately, we've been getting more OW4 info, so things have been exciting and active.

Oh, and if you want a new forum to go to, hobo has started a forum on EZ Board.

http://pub227.ezboard.com/bhobosgamespalaceforums

-oddguy

Seargentbig · #26 03-10-2004, 04:48 PM

Wow. My last post just came today, and it's been overwhelmied by some seven more. this isn't a thread, it's a discussion

Codek · #27 03-10-2004, 04:49 PM

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These forums are great!

Nope.

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Oh, and if you want a new forum to go to, hobo has started a forum on EZ Board.

http://pub227.ezboard.com/bhobosgamespalaceforums

Nope.

FEATURES people, FEATURES.

Majic · #28 03-10-2004, 04:50 PM

Thread discussion. Ish. Mind you, that's one reason why I like this place. Not too many people, and not too many posts. A topic doesn't get pushed back several pages after one day of dormancy.

Seargentbig · #29 03-10-2004, 04:51 PM

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Only where you've been trampling it.

Hmmm. I knew I should't have said that. But you're not helping anything by threataning people, you know.

***Alcar*** · #30 03-10-2004, 09:15 PM

If people want to leave, then by all means they can. We don't expect people to stay if they don't want to. What on Earth has lead you to believe I believed such a thing?

I would say goodbye, but you've come back so many times it's not funny.

Alcar...