2004 election reminders

[MrBoj]

for those of you who are of voting age, here is something about President Bush that should be taken into consideration this November. some these claims are a bit too specific to have any historical precedence, but I'd say ALL of it is pretty disturbing.

I attacked and took over two countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not
easy!).

I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but I did).

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.

I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.

I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.

I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since the advent of TV.

I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other US president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.)

I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.

I am the first president in US history to order a US attack AND military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"(only one letter away from BS).

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to beat, but I did it!!).

I am the first president in US history to compel the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

I withdrew from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.

I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.

I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic categoryheading straight down.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time of war.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for
public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.


GEORGE W. BUSH
The White House,
Washington, DC




propoganda? well, free will is still in fact "free" if I'm not mistaken. Unless that, too, has been amended in the Constitution.

[Alcar]

Suddenly, I have the immense urge to hug John Howard. He's an angel compared to Bush.

Alcar...

[Fez]

if it wasnt for GB going to war, you Americans would be using these...

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm

[Al the Vykker]

Yep, nice work Mr. Boj. I could not have said it better.

[oddguy]

Tsk tsk. Bush has really screwed up America. So much in fact, it's going to be hard for the next president to fix. Clinton may have had some personal problems, but he ran the country great.

-oddguy

[Al the Vykker]

Tsk tsk. Bush has really screwed up America. So much in fact, it's going to be hard for the next president to fix. Clinton may have had some personal problems, but he ran the country great.

-oddguy

Exactly, Clinton did some stupid things behind closed doors, but because it was that type of thing it was all in the news, blah blah blah etc. But as you stated I agree too I think he did a pretty damn good job keeping the peace and running the country.

While the other stuff Bush has done with his false statements he made and false intelligence for starting the war goes unpunished. Shows you there can be no swift justice for a President like Bush from the American Judicial system, and the world.

[SeaRex]

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OK, in all fairness, I just wanted an excuse to post that. I apologize.

Tee-hee!

[Al the Vykker]

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OK, in all fairness, I just wanted an excuse to post that. I apologize.

Tee-hee!

I must admit that gave me quite a laugh when I looked at your post.

Got any others? Im just curious because that one was very funny.

[Seargentbig]

Wow!
What A big, long list of good reasons to vote him out!

[paramiteabe]

You vote for ever you feel is right. But just remember what your vote was when something horrible happens.

[oddguy]

Whaddya mean, PA? Do we have a Bush supporter in our midst?

-oddguy

[Al the Vykker]

I respect you preference PA, but maybe we need a stronger candidate, that help to start getting us out of our huge deficit, and also start getting these people who have lost their jobs not just after 9/11, but in the past year from a terrible economy. Trust me I have seen this first hand, and closer than you think.

[SeaRex]

Al, you can find more propaganda-esque pics here. Most of them are pretty stupid, but a few are quite entertaining.

[paramiteabe]

No I am just saying make sure you know the person your voteing for. Because even in the democratic party there are very decietful people. They have all these nice plans but they will too lie. My state Gov is a Democrat And he has raised taxes and just caused so much trouble in my state that I can't stand him. I consider myself a moderate. I am neather Libral or conservative and I am not for any party I am for the individual on wether this person is good or not. And all I want to see is for everyone to get along. Thats all.

[oddguy]

Yeah, most politicians are corrupt and sneaky. It's hard to trust democrats or republicans these days. Personally, I didn't like Gore or Bush when last election was around. I don't confine myself to a party...I like to see the big picture.

-oddguy

[Al the Vykker]

No I am just saying make sure you know the person your voteing for. Because even in the democratic party there are very decietful people. They have all these nice plans but they will too lie. My state Gov is a Democrat And he has raised taxes and just caused so much trouble in my state that I can't stand him. I consider myself a moderate. I am neather Libral or conservative and I am not for any party I am for the individual on wether this person is good or not. And all I want to see is for everyone to get along. Thats all.

Yeah see exactly the opposite has happened for us here in Illinois. Our new Governor is a democrat, and hes great hes cleaning up after all the stuff George Ryan left behind, with his corruption scandal, etc. He really put a bad label on Republicans in Illinois after all the stuff he did while in power.

But Rod Blagojevich has been doing a good job trying to get us out of this huge budget deficit we are dealing with in Illinois. I'll have to pull up some other stuff about his plans, but I think its great that someone is actually getting stuff done in our state. It was also surprising that our entire State Goverment officials are basically all democrats this time around.

[Hobo]

Searex, I love you...

[MrBoj]

I don't think anyone should defend any one party, the Democratic Liberals; the Conservative Conservatives. What this thread is about, and what people should be aware of, is exactly what PA said. BECOME AWARE of who is running for office; BECOME AWARE of who is already IN office. A lot of people have heard bad things from both sides. well, here are unbiased, albeit said in a favourable way, claims about President Bush. He has created a separate branch of the US government, which must have cost a lot of money.

He is not the first to do so. In 1980, when Ronald Reagan took office, he created the Department of Domestic Diplomacy, yet another beaucratic "quagmire". The task of this agency was to "control US public opinion." They would call up news broadcasting station and tell them what news stories to air, and in what way to air them. If you ran a story otherwise, to favour say the Sandanistas in Nicaragua back during the Contra conflict......if you were a supporter of the Sandanistas, or you went down to Central America to check out what was going on, you were followed by agents from the CIA. These were citizens who were seen as a "threat to US foreign policy." Nixon had a similar method of keeping an eye on threats to his administration right here at home......his own secret police. As for as I know, the Department of Domestic Diplomacy has never been disbanded. This is the ultimate is secret propoganda.......and it's been mocked through such means as what SeaRex and hobo have posted, in those mock propoganda posters.

So what do you really know about your president.....about your governor, and so forth? It's tough to actually utilize your RIGHT TO VOTE, especially in a generation bred on apathy. The ramification of this growing apathy are not good at all. Never stop caring; always have some interest in what your government is doing.

[GrigtheSlig]

If I were to vote for someone right now, I'd vote for Wesley Clark! He's so cool! GO WES!

[paramiteabe]

The first thing we need to be aware of is who wants more Government? And who wants to control us by raising taxes? America is not about Government. Its about the people and their freedom of life liberty and the persuit of happieness.

[Majic]

I could care less who wins. Because either way, I'm more than likely going to be at the inauguration ceremony/party and whatever stuff. Granted, of course, that the person to take over the school group I'd be going with doesn't pull a bunch of bullshit.

Ah, the pleasures of being in a priviledged schoolgroup.

[Codek]

George Bush should be charged with National Espionage or something. He is the terrorist, he's done more damage to the US than Bin Laden did in 9/11.

[Codek]

The first thing we need to be aware of is who wants more Government? And who wants to control us by raising taxes? America is not about Government. Its about the people and their freedom of life liberty and the persuit of happieness.

America isn't "about" anything PA. America is a continent. I beleive you are thinking of the USA.

And again, the USA isn't "about" anything. The USA is a country, and needs to be run. What George Bush didn't do is run the country. He made a series of consecutive errors that people who worked for him had to clear up.

When they say "George Bush is running our party", they mean running it into the ground.

[Fez]

George Bush should be charged with National Espionage or something. He is the terrorist, he's done more damage to the US than Bin Laden did in 9/11.

true, we lost more men to the US in the Iraq war then we did to the skinnies.

this reminds me of a training excersise my mates dad did. It was in Greenland or someplace with lots of snow. They had to find a dummy Scud missile, and tell and American in a A-10 overhead where it is so he could bomb it. They found it. The missile was on a ERP and bright orange, and a clear day that was really bright. They tell the American. He flys right over they're heads. "I dont see it" he says. He flys over another time. "I dont see it..." he flys over a third time. "Ah, i see it." he fires the 30mm cannon on the A-10 and flys away. When they get back to base they meet the pilot of the A-10. "Did you see me! i shot that Scud clean in half!" he said "No mate, you missed" and he had.

Americans...

[paramiteabe]

America isn't "about" anything PA. America is a continent. I beleive you are thinking of the USA.

And again, the USA isn't "about" anything. The USA is a country, and needs to be run. What George Bush didn't do is run the country. He made a series of consecutive errors that people who worked for him had to clear up.

When they say "George Bush is running our party", they mean running it into the ground.

Well sorry Death for not being politically correct here! I mean I think you knew what I ment so don't go there!

[Codek]

Well sorry Death for not being politically correct here! I mean I think you knew what I ment so don't go there!

I don't care much for arguing with you on this point, as it wasn't the most important part of what i was talking about.

Another example of how people on this forum will skip the most important bit, just to get to something only relevant to them. Or to find something to argue about.

No offense PA but the USA is no more or less important than any other country. It doesn't deserve special treatment just because it makes a point of its freedom. Other countries around the world aren't going about erecting 300 foot statues - but that doesn't mean they don't have freedom and liberties. They run their country, and their people are happy. They don't get into wars, they don't have twisted legal systems.

Yet there's the US yelling a bawling, running about town with boomsticks and freedom protest signs, getting into all sorts of trouble. The point being that perhaps your freedom and liberties obsessed nation isn't doing itself any good. Therefore you shouldn't argue for it as though it's a lost cause.

And I have no idea why freedom and liberties even came into this discussion, because it has nothing to do with what George Bush has done to the US.

[Statikk HDM]

You're right, Death. Other countries are free and the U.S. isn't the most important one. I also hate how people seem to value an American soldier's life more than any other. Over 8,000 civilians die from poor bombing orders and policy and no one cares. 3 Americans die and its on the news heavy rotation. It also makes me sick how they categorize death according to one's race. When a truck bomb kills sixteen people I don't need to know it was 11 Israelis, 3 Palestinian, and 2 Americans. Not only that, the war propaganda is ridiculous. Let me give all you Bush-worshippers a clue: Terrorists don't hate America because it's "free." They hate America because it sides with Israel and has been messing around in their business for well over 5 decades.

[Codek]

You're right, Death. Other countries are free and the U.S. isn't the most important one. I also hate how people seem to value an American soldier's life more than any other. Over 8,000 civilians die from poor bombing orders and policy and no one cares. 3 Americans die and its on the news heavy rotation. It also makes me sick how they categorize death according to one's race. When a truck bomb kills sixteen people I don't need to know it was 11 Israelis, 3 Palestinian, and 2 Americans. Not only that, the war propaganda is ridiculous. Let me give all you Bush-worshippers a clue: Terrorists don't hate America because it's "free." They hate America because it sides with Israel and has been messing around in their business for well over 5 decades.

Exactly, thousands of people die each week as a result of the US and nobody cares, yet when a 1 or 2 thousand american people die at once it's somehow more tragic.

I'm not asking that the US people not care when their people die, I'm asking the US people to also spare a thought for some of the other people who die too.

[MrBoj]

Death, I'm not sure what you are saying. But to keep this thread on topic, other countries' citizens may live in more peace, and do not have to worry about their country going into another state with force, but this is exactly the problem Bush has created! Regardless, the USA has more INFLUENCE than any other country in the world. IF we have a bad president, this effects the world. His legacy is one of indecision and deceit! The fact that citizens of these peaceful nations, not to mention the impoverished citizens that make up the majority of the world's population, despise the USA does not pose well for what Bush has done. Our president is not doing a good job at all along these lines. the sad part is, he will probably be re-elected come November.

[MrBoj]

I'm not asking that the US people not care when their people die, I'm asking the US people to also spare a thought for some of the other people who die too.

EXACTLY! but this is the problem! People do not want to hear about the death and problems of other countries! That will not sell. News stations will not air this becuase people will not listen, or they will be TOLD they will not want to listen. WHY? Did you read what I typed about the Department of Domestic Diplomacy? What we are shown in the news is controlled propoganda, so how can the average American realize that the rest of the world is in constant conflict because of the US, whether it be direct or indirect? People know there is still conflict in the Middle East, but they mostly think it's terrorists running around doing whatever it is they do. No news in the papers or television shows much about what is going on in the Middle East.....only major papers like the Times. YET NO ONE READS IT! just the tabloids that are all gossip, entertainment and sports. ugh, a huge quagmire indeed.