Do you think the Eviromental/Disability factors are good for the Game???

[Wolfpac]

Well like myself I would say Yes. It is said that any Movie that makes you think about the issues portraied, days after you've seen the Movie is a Good Movie. I think Oddworld achives this. The issue arn't shoved in your face, it's only when you sit down and think about it is where you notice them. So weather it be about Slaverly or the destruction of Naturaly habitate, I think OWI have made the series a winner so far.

But the problem about this is, you may say that these games are here to preach the creative teams opinions and Views of themselfs, other than making a game that is fun. If a games or Movie preaches something that we don't belive in, then it could put us off the game, No matter how fun it might be.

Yes I gather that most people might be against slavery, but there are many people who thinks that Disablity should not be made fun of. And having a Blind person fall off a Clif or have on be ripped to peices into a drill might be funny. Or Having Munch having more mobility that a normal Disabled person could ever have be insulting to them.

So I ask you again. Do you think the Eviromental/Disability factors are good for the Game???

[ August 16, 2001: Message edited by: Wolfpac ]

[ODDBODD]

mmmyeah what he said!

[Gluk Schmuck]

i love the idea of an environment that can be changed by you...

OI aren't making fun of disabled people...Munch is the hero of MO...can you name a single game/TV show/movie which has someone disabled as a main character, or even the hero?
Disabled main character: Texas Chainsaw Masacre (film)
Disabled hero: Ironside (TV), some cartoon(probably by Marvel) (TV)
i can't name another...

if Munch and his wheelchair is offensive by not being realistic, then most other game developers should also be peanalised...
what's more realistic: someone going really fast in a wheelchair, or several 2D worms killing each other with super weapons?
anyway, Oddworld can't be compared to this universe...who knows, a real-life Gabbit may be able to go that fast in a wheelchair, a Bandicoot may be able to save the world from an over-sized-forehead evil scientist...

[PinkHaired Mudokon CWR]

That's what makes oddworld so odd. It's in it's own uniqueness. I don't think they are making fun of disabled people. I mean, who can do tricks in a wheel chair like that?!

[ODDBODD]

the oddiest thing about oddworld is the sweet rhyming in the fmv section. If oddworld gets rid of it. I'll delete my site and burn anything with oddworld on it!!

[Wil]

"I guess it's all representatives of being a little guy in a big cruel world. I don't think we've ever thought of them as having disabilities, it just comes naturally to us. We try to communicate characters that are underdogs and have lived with injustice, and these traits help us to tell a complicated background with a simple visual design. Of course, these traits also aid in creating humourous game mechanics." - Lorne Lanning to PS Pro, June 2000

[Danny]

but they DID get rid of the lovely rhyming in AE, which is why i hated the FMVs in AE!

[Gluk Schmuck]

anyway, what can Munch do in his wheelchair that humans can't???

[ODDBODD]

Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck:
anyway, what can Munch do in his wheelchair that humans can't???

i can name a few things

- be a gabbit
- possess
- eat a peice of brocoli while bouncing a tuba on his head singing "henry the hippo"
- fart!

[Wil]

anyway, what can Munch do in his wheelchair that humans can't???

He can save his species, and be the hero of a computer. Not many people can boast that even without being disabled.

[Malaprop]

Originally posted by Wolfpac:
Having Munch having more mobility that a normal Disabled person could ever have be insulting to them.
[ August 16, 2001: Message edited by: Wolfpac ]

I think disabled people would be more insulted by the fact that there are so few heroes like Munch. The problem is that most developers are so afraid of the possibility of offending somebody by using a minority group in their games that they avoid it altogether unless it's being used for shock tactics (a game in which you shoot at somebody in a wheelchair, for example, would get a lot of press coverage, and certain game companies might think of that as a cheap alternative to advertising.) Everybody being very wary of the idea of using a disabled character for anything is likely to make disabled people feel alienated... nobody is, for example, scared of insulting corporate bosses with the Glukkons, or offending soldiers or policemen when the Sligs reinforce their "trigger-happy and stupid" stereotype. It's good to see somebody who isn't afraid to include minorities in prominent roles, especially since the fact that Munch is in a wheelchair isn't the only obvious defining feature of his character (his ability to possess electrical equipment being significant as well).

[Gluk Schmuck]

is anyone here disabled?
if so, do you find this offensive?