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02-28-2003, 03:33 PM
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Map of Oddworld

i was wondering how come they put the map of oddworld in the fan of the month section?
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02-28-2003, 03:36 PM
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cause Max sent a list of all the mistakes and "helped" to make a 99.7% correct map

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02-28-2003, 06:45 PM
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that would be impossible!

Imagine!!

Scrabania, Necrum, Splinterz

lots of places, i'd like to see that!
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02-28-2003, 06:47 PM
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Lol.
He may be a bit of a smart arse but it paid off.
Once again:
Cheers Max!
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03-01-2003, 10:36 AM
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that would be impossible!

Imagine!!

Scrabania, Necrum, Splinterz

lots of places, i'd like to see that!
Huh?

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03-01-2003, 10:41 AM
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What mistakes were on it?
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03-01-2003, 10:57 AM
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These ones.

Dammit, why won't that link ever work? Oh well, copy and paste it is...
  • In Abe's Oddysee, Abe got to Paramonia and Scrabania via wells in Monsaic Lines, yet the map connects Paramonia and Scrabania to RuptureFarms. There should be no connection between the two, since Abe returned to Monsaic Lines after completing both Paramonia and Scrabania.
  • We can see during the Necrum level of Abe's Exoddus that the Mudomo and Mudanchee Temples are not far from Necrum Mines, meaning the Mudomo and Mudanchee Vaults are underneath Necrum. The map places them far apart.
  • After destroying SoulStorm Brewery, Abe returns to Necrum, which is not shown on the map.
  • The Big Well is just beyond the SpooceShrub Forest level in Munch's Oddysee, but the map shows a considerable difference between them. You can see the ledge that Abe jumps into the well from at the end of the SpooceShrub Forest level through the tunnel, but much of the Wilderness Region does look similar.
  • Munch began his story in the river (hence the green water), not on land as shown.
  • Abe visited the Raisin in the morning (presumably, though not necessarily, the day immediately after Munch was abducted), and then goes to the SpooceShrub Forest and the Big Well. This journey, according to the map, takes less time than it does for Munch to be flown from the Scrab trap to the Big Well. This is ridiculous, and you can see that the Labs moves very swiftly in the Escape! movie. It is possible that wind conditions slowed the Labs down, and if point four, above, is taken into account, then the problem is reduced.
  • After Abe and Munch bumped into each other and fell from Vykkers Labs, they landed in the SpooceShrub Forest (as proved by the article on Oddworld.com), not next to the Big Well as shown on the map. This must be quite a distance, since we see quite a wide area in the Escape! video but no forest.
  • Munch and Abe spent five levels getting back to the Raisin's Cave, but the map does not show Munch to have visited the cave at all.
  • The dialogue in the Abe's Exoddus Vision movie implies that Abe and his friends took just one day to get from Monsaic Lines/the Sanctum to Necrum Mines. That means Necrum and Monsaic are about 12 miles apart. Transferring that scale onto the Mudos Map and the Oddworld Map to the right by using major land features such as rivers and coasts, we can calculate Oddworld's diameter to be about 3,411 miles. It's very approximate, I know, but that's less that half of the Earth's diameter, and Oddworld is ten times the size of the Earth.

    Assuming that that means ten times in volume, Oddworld's diameter would be 17,000 miles. If it's in surface area, it would be 25,000 miles, and if Oddworld's diameter is 10 times that of the Earth's, it would be 79,000 miles. These distances are far too much an increase to be dealt with by simply moving Monsaic and Necrum closer together.

    My best suggestion is to have a distance between the two similar to the distance between RuptureFarms and Necrum in V1.0 of the map (although RuptureFarms will obviously have to become Monsaic Lines), and fiddle about instead with making Mudos a lot smaller on the Oddworld Map. How much smaller depends upon which way Oddworld is larger than Earth.
  • 'Rupture Farms' should be 'RuptureFarms'.
  • The Mudomo 'Vault' should be the Mudomo 'Vaults'. The same goes for the Mudanchee Vault.
  • 'Feeco Depot' should be either 'FeeCo Depot' or 'Fee Co. Depot'.
  • 'Soulstorm' should be 'SoulStorm'.
  • 'Spooceshrub' should be 'SpooceShrub'.
  • 'The Raisin Cave' isn't necessarily wrong, but all other Oddworld material suggests it should be 'The Raisin's Cave' or 'The Almighty Raisin's Cave'.

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Wow, I had no ideas there were so many problems! Thanks Max!
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Ah, but think about this- what if Mudokons are ten times the size of Humans, with strides ten times as long? Hmm? maybe Oddworld is like the big level from Super Mario Bros 3, did you think about that? Yeah, that's right. Mm hmm.
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well done on the map max. I applaud you.
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Not only has Alf said that Mudokons are human-sized, but there have been references to Glukkons being 7-foot tall and also, I think, a picture of various Oddworld critters standing in front of one of these height-measuring walls you see in American police stations on TV, which showed Mudokons to be 6-foot tall.

And don't try and tell me that imperial measurements on Oddworld are ten-times the length as their Earthly equivalents.
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lol, very good Max. You truely deserve FOM! I never knew there were so much mistakes in the map!! I must be loosing my touch! *runns off to brief up on Oddworld Knowledge*
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I bow to your authority, Max. Please, forgive this grasshopper's insolence.
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