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Question ODD Files why do sligs all look the same

The first situation we are looking at is why do all sligs look the same? Is it because they are clones or they all have the same twin looking parents we may not ever find the reason why but there isn't anything we can't solve on the


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Well all the Sligs come from Skillya the Slig queen so they're all twins wich is why they all look alike. Thats my theory of why they all look the same. But if you want a modern day explanation, Oddworld Inhabitants just didn't want to waist time making all the Sligs look different, but saying that takes all the fun out of it!!!!!! I think Sligs have a hard time remembering who everyone is.

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you know mudokons are pretty the same too
they are from one queen, that's why

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its probably like bacteria and it just makes exact copies because it has no time to make them all differant
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Hmmmm...

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Cool...
How do they produce all those sligs with only a mother and no father? Or is there any technology?
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Originally posted by salty pretzils
How do they produce all those sligs with only a mother?
It's called sexual reproduction. Now. There are these birds and they copulate with bees. And then a little slig is delivered to Skillya by a stork.

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Maybe they just, umm, look alike to us, cuz I think monkeys all look the same, but they can tell each other apart.

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yeah that's right...
it's not because you don't see any difference there isn't any.
plus they must have some personnalities or attitudes so you can disctinct them

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Question WHATS UP WITH THAT FINGER

WHY DOES ABE ON AO HAVE FOUR FINGERS BUT ON AE HE ONLY HAS THREE

I MEAN IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE SENCE IF IT WAS JUST HIM BUT IT IS ALL OF THE MUDOKONS AS WELL COULD THIS BE ANOTHER CASE FOR THE



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yah i think you'r right Xavier. i have two lizards and they look so much alike and people ask "how the heck can you tell them apart" but I just can. just cause we don't see anything dosn't meen there isn't any difference. I think all the fish in my grampas tank look the same but the fish in there don't. I bet you if Abe came to Earth he'd say that all humans look the same and i'd say I think all Mudokons look the same, then we'd have a big fight and beat eachother up and he'd probably win cause I'm only 10 and on the oddworld universe it says he's 15 so 5 years of age make a big difference when your beating someone up.


EDIT: I heard about that on Dear Alf and it had something to do with the Japanes not liking things with 4 fingers so they changed it. If you want to hear the whole story go to the archives and click one of the Dear Alfs. I forget wich one though.

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Hmm...
Well sorry Brewmaster if I don't contribute its just I thought there have been topics already one abes paw so the odd files yet again is closed.
How about glukkons they don't all look the same even though there is one queen...
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Well my theory is kinda inimaginative but Glukkons are in a way main characters and are in movies when many of them are talking to eachother so they wanted to make them different. The Sligs however are not individual main characters so they made them all the same. a boring Vykker-ish theory but it's what i think.

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only one slig queen ya say, ay?

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ODD File #1: Why do all sligs look alike?
Answer: Sligs don't all look alike. We simply thik they do since we are not around them often enough. Genetically they are identical like twins (the are all the children of Skillya) and like twins you can tell them apart if you are around them long enough.

ODD File #2: Why did Abe loose a finger?
Answer: Here is the official answer to that question from the FAQ of Ask Alf at the official oddworld site.

Japan has a strict discriminating policy against any simulated characters entering their country with four fingers. Historically, Japan has had a subclass of meat packing workers that were typically looked down upon in their society. In later days, the blatant displaying of a four fingered hand gesture, intentionally directed at another, came to mean that you were calling them a member of the meat packing sub class. Which, we understand, was not at all a compliment.

It appears that the four finger connection with the meat packing class was due to work related accidents, but was so frequent that it came to symbolically represent the sub class. It seems as though this is a part of the Japanese history that some groups within Japan would like to see forgotten. Therefore, it is at great risk that you publish four fingered characters in Japan, as you may very likely end up in legal battles with a vociferous pressure group. This group claims that this type of representation is equivalent to and as degrading as the yellow star forced to be worn on Jews by the Nazi's during the Second World War.That is, it's offensive and degrading unless they can extort enough money out of you. Then it's all okay. Case in point: We were told that the Walt Disney Corporation is charged five million dollars a year by this group so that Mickey Mouse may live in Japan and retain his original four fingered design. Otherwise, old Mickey would need to see a surgeon and have something done about that insulting forth finger.

The moral of this story is... if you want to pay, then it's ok. If you don't want to pay, then it's a horrible insult to our culture. In other parts of the world we have a word for these types of two-faced tactics. We call it extortion. If it is truly offensive and degrading, then don't allow it at all. But to allow it for a price... is to belittle the case altogether. It suggests that the real truth behind these groups is that they are using the darker moments in their own cultures' history as an excuse to coerce money out of content providers.

Well, being that this is Oddworld, we felt that this seemed like a perfect addition to the Abe story. We thought it was ironically perfect that he was being discriminated against for being who he was. As the message came from Japan, "They don't like his kind here, with the sincere suggestion," Just chop off one of his fingers cause you don't have the money to pay up..." caused us to feel that we indeed needed to allow Abe to go through the suffering that goes along with being a poor slob at the bottom of the Food chain. Yup, we chopped off his finger so that the Japanese wouldn't get offended (or paid). He didn't like it one bit, but due to the fact that their ain't much he can do about it... we decided that he could donate his finger rather than us donating five million dollars. Such is life in Japan when you're a four-fingered meat packing worker.
And that is how Abe lost his finger in Japan. He's still pretty pissed off about it, but we convinced him that with the amount of games sold in Japan, he still might be able to get his message through to their culture someday. As a true believer in his cause, he felt that the sacrifice of a finger was but a small price to pay in hoping to shed some light on discriminations and injustices the world over.

P.S. This ODD files topic is a great idea. Something I tried to accomplish with my QandA topic but failed. Hopefully this thread will live a long odd life full of interesting discussion.

P.P.S. Brewmaster, is it okay for others to post their "ODD Files"? They could number them (the next one being three), so that the questions are easy to pick out from the replies. This looks to be a promising and interesting way of getting questions answered.
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Re: ODD Files why do sligs all look the same

I think if the sligs didn't have their masks on they'd look different.

P.S: don't judge a slig by his appearence. He might shoot you.
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This is to TheKazu(What ever) Yes it is fine by me if you want to post your own ODD FILES on here!!!!!!




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something I want to know is how Abe met The allmigthy raisin...
does someone know?

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I'll bet the Almighty Raisin has long been an important figure in Mudos's history, and that the Mudokons have known about him for yonks. I bet Abe, having destroyed SoulStorm Brewery, returned to Necrum not knowing what to aim for next. The logical thing for the Mudokons to do was suggest an age-old oricle to help guide Abe on his next adventure.
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Originally posted by TheKhanzumer
ODD File #1: Why do all sligs look alike?
Answer: Sligs don't all look alike. We simply thik they do since we are not around them often enough. Genetically they are identical like twins (the are all the children of Skillya) and like twins you can tell them apart if you are around them long enough.
Actually, they all look the same because they are all the same. Each slig in the game is just an instance of a basic slig model. Unless OI spent all their development time making individual sligs and copying and pasting sligs everywhere throughout the game.

It's actually very unlikely that all the sligs will be idential twins of each other. Even if Skillya retained the sperm of only one mate then all the sligs would still only be full brothers rather than identical twins. The only way all sligs would be identical twins to each other would be if Skillya fertilised only one ovum by one sperm and that particular cell divided throughout her reproduction span and the daughter cells created individual sligs.
It's quite likely that the slig reproductive system is similar to that of bees, ants, termites, et cetera considering all the knowlege we have of their reproductive system. I.e. They have queens, there are lots of workers.

I'd very much like to find some of this out at some point throughout the Quintology or another series. Maybe even just a note on the OI website about the reproductive systems of the different specieses.
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Oddworld Why do sligs look alike

IF you want to know why the artist's did that is sometimes when they have to do alot to do on one character they just do one then they save the image and just keep pulling it from there that is how they do it if you want to look at it from human veiw from theres i go with the theory that they only seem the same to use because we are not around them enough.
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I (partially) give up trying to answer slig related questions. From now on I'll leave it to Gluk Schmuck, Teal and a few others who always seem to correct me. Oh well, to each their own kind I guess...

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Another Odd-Files for everyone:
I discovered this in the Sloghuts although it may work in other places.
1. Put a slig in a slog pen.
2. The slog(s) eat the slig(s).
3. We were previously told that slogs were a slig's best friend.

I can only guess that someting has been done to these slogs to make them more vicous toward sligs. They may have not been fed but when you notice the food troughs in the corner of the slog pens that theory doesn't work. Any ideas?
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ODD File #3: Why are slogs more vicious to sligs?

The slogs are a sligs best friend... if they have been beaten into submission by that slig since birth. Remember that these are the kennels, home of young, old and middle aged slogs of all different "personalities". The ones that attacked the sligs have not been properly trained yet, that's why they are at the kennels and not on guard duty with a slig (like the ones we saw in previous games).
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I agree with Khanzumer, another theory is that mabye a Slog is only loyal to the Slig who beat it. I remember in Abes Oddysee when you had possessed a Slig there where some Slogs you had to shoot be for the ate you but then at other times certain Slogs would listen to the Slig you possessed and kill the other Slig (my guess is that this Slog wasn't beaten at a you age by these certain Sligs.).
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that can explain the poor Slog AI in Munch's Oddysee
nice explanation.
and It's possible too since it's in the SlogHut

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Two questions for the theorists to ponder about

birds and bees on odd world how did they get there?

how did the hand(foot)print(s) on the moon(s) form?
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how did the hand(foot)print(s) on the moon(s) form?
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Birds, bees, bats, the slug-like Slurgs and the cockroach-like Skrikits are all totally native to Oddworld. While to us they may appear extraordinarily similar to our familiar creatures, to lesser or greater degrees, Lorne Lanning is eager to point out* that they have all gone through their own evolutionary process. In fact, although Earth birds evolved out of reptiles, Oddworld reptiles have evolved out of birds.

*He did so in an interview the Exoddus Club had with him. We decided to keep it to ourselves, since it contained some pretty interesting stuff I'm sure Mr Lanning would want only an exclusive club to know about, but it has been replicated by a certain well-respected member of this community.

As for how Abe's pawprint and Munch's footprint have appeared on Oddworld's moons, that is something we will never know. In the same interview mentioned above, Mr Lanning told us that Abe's Moon has long since been hanging above Mudos's lands, and was actually the catalyst for the whole Mudokn/Glukkon conflict. Then again, while we'll never know for certain, and while I myself do not want to know, there's nothing to stop everyone from guessing...

But bear in mind that most people would like a return of Oddworld's more mysterious presentation. By explaining this best-kept of mysteries, you are destroying the hopes of fans all over the globe. Happy theorising!
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Originally posted by TheKhanzumer
ODD File #3: Why are slogs more vicious to sligs?

The slogs are a sligs best friend... if they have been beaten into submission by that slig since birth. Remember that these are the kennels, home of young, old and middle aged slogs of all different "personalities". The ones that attacked the sligs have not been properly trained yet, that's why they are at the kennels and not on guard duty with a slig (like the ones we saw in previous games).
To expand on this theory of poorly trained slogs, perhaps the recyclers are near these kennels to get rid of bad slogs...
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I read in the MO walkthrough, that slogs get feed once a week so they'll be more vicious twords muds. Bad idea!
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