Why are peaple against Oddworld?

dark_xinos · #1 05-25-2002, 07:32 AM

Like everybody i know dosent like Oddwolrd. They might ask what game im playing at that period. I say Abes Exoddus for an example.

"YOU PLAY ODDWOLRD!!? Dont you got any taste of games?"

"Urhm... whats whrong with those games. I think there great!"

"There plattform!"

"SO WHAT!?!"

***Cloverfield*** · #2 05-25-2002, 10:30 AM

I guess I really can't comment first hand on this, because when you get to my age, most people don't like games period, as they have "grown out of them" or something like that.

But I get the impression that a lot of people like games where you shoot and kill and the bigger the gun the better. Or the more blood that you can see the better. It's kind of the way that some gaming companies market to people. Thus why a lot of people love games like Halo.

Oddworld on the other hand makes people think. Some people don't like that kind of thing. I think it's great... it's great to find a game that not only makes you think during game play, but also due to the real life issues it covers.

As for the platform thing, I guess that's just people who have the mindset that platform games = old out of date games. They think that it's not new and happening. That 3D is the way of today.

Abe Babe...

Sl'askia · #3 05-25-2002, 11:16 AM

I know the feeling AB. I, myself am not into video games as much as I used to any more (course part of the reason could be because I got a computer...*shrug*).
Unfortunately I agree with the 'shoot them up' type games, but that just seems to be the market now-a-days...which is sad. (like I am to talk...but then...I usually only play such games as a form of stress relief, which is not very often.)
I enjoy the good o' platforms and action/adventure type games (Super Metroid, Mario games, Zelda, etc). I dispise first person shooters (save for one series; Turok), sport types, and most racing. I like the puzzle games too. Most peeps just seem to want mindless violence now-a-days...*sigh*

*turns around and continues to play Rampage*

Come back here human! I want to eat you!

Spider: um...'Kia....you didn't hit reply yet...

Hmm...? OH! Oops....

munchman · #4 05-25-2002, 01:58 PM

i love oddworld cant wait for all the new games to come out for Xbox

i can go up to people at my school and they say they like it, i talk to them about the games and the ones coming out

Jacob · #5 05-25-2002, 02:10 PM

Basically the attraction to shoot 'em ups is the AI. People like to fight things that can 'think' and stuff like that. Also, many people like gory games...were you injure a guy via sniping him, the partner runs upto him and tries to help and you pick him off and then injure the dying guy some more...Gore, Gore and more Gore...with a dash of good, quality AI.

***Alcar*** · #6 05-25-2002, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by dark_xinos
Like everybody i know dosent like Oddwolrd. They might ask what game im playing at that period. I say Abes Exoddus for an example.

"YOU PLAY ODDWOLRD!!? Dont you got any taste of games?"

"Urhm... whats whrong with those games. I think there great!"

Same thing with me, my friends love shoot 'em ups etc. They are okay but i tend to love platform games. My whole games collection is mainly of platformers...

Alcar...

Majic · #7 05-25-2002, 11:28 PM

FPSs are kinda cool, but Halo I just like because, well, its just fun... Racing is good, RalliSport Challange, Ridge Racer, Jet Moto, Gran Trusmo, San Fransico Rush, Carmagedon (ok, maybe not that). Platformers are fun to, I jsut really have the large amount. Fighting games have lost some interest to me though. What I like though are what have a decent storyline, action at least, and somewhat of a fun gameplay and replay value. Thats why gun Valkyrie is so cool......

Mac the Janitor · #8 05-26-2002, 01:14 AM

Yeah, I just like Halo for the strategy involved. I don't play it just to see the little midget aliens get blown up and ran over. It's just fun.

TheKhanzumer · #9 05-26-2002, 01:22 AM

To be honest, what drew me to Oddworld wasn't the gameplay (although I do enjoy it). I love the games because of the sadistic storyline, well developed characters and odd humor.

People who don't like the oddworld games are people who want adrinalin pumping action, not a story set on a strange world.

Gluk Schmuck · #10 05-26-2002, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Basically the attraction to shoot 'em ups is the AI.

But the Oddworld games have AI. Take MO. Erm... Bad example...

***Xavier*** · #11 05-26-2002, 04:40 PM

I have got sometimes the same problem...
oddworld?
first: eurk an old 2d like game...
now: eurk a stupid platform game

and they don't want to understand, to see what the games realy are!

dumboddrw2 · #12 05-26-2002, 06:38 PM

"Cool" people pretend to like FPS because everyone else does.
FPS are very boring and gay.

People with brains like Oddworld because it has a storyline,like MGS for example.
Girls like Abe because he is cooll

Jacob · #13 05-26-2002, 06:49 PM

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(1)"Cool" people pretend to like FPS because everyone else does.
(2)FPS are very boring and gay.

(3)People with brains like Oddworld (4)because it has a storyline,like MGS for example.
(5)Girls like Abe because he is cooll

I've took offense...allow me to shoot you down.

(1) - Ok...? Erm, thats 100% wrong. Be quiet.

(2) - No...really...they aint. And how can a game be homosexual? (Always use politicly correctness when shooting somebody down.)

(3) - True...thats Nerds mostly then (And a select few of other status')

(4) - Most games have storylines...just not very good ones.

(5) - If you went up to a girl and said "Hey, do you think Abe is cool?" she would think your a geek (Thats if she wasn't a geek herself.)

Conclusion: Shhhhhhhh little one.

(Actually...i dont know why that offended moi...strrrrange.)

Gluk Schmuck · #14 05-27-2002, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by dumboddrw2
1. FPS are very boring and gay.

2. People with brains like Oddworld because it has a storyline,like MGS for example.

1. I haven't played a boring FPS for a very long time. Chris covered the gay statement.

2. I'm not sure if this is just me but I didn't really notice the storylines in the Oddworld games because they aren't very interetsing. MGS, for example has an excellent storyline. So does the only FPS I own, Halo.

morphius · #15 05-28-2002, 01:32 AM

I think the reason people do not like oddworld is because it is very different, some people might think of it as too weird so they do not enjoy it, there are many reasons though. It is an opinion, I think the first oddworld-games were very interesting though. Munches game was not what I thought it was going to be but the story line was still quite exceptional.

LuxoJr · #16 05-28-2002, 07:57 AM

I can't really say that any Oddworld game has required thought beyond, say, the puzzles in Half-Life. Difference is, Half-Life was more immersive and more entertaining as an interactive medium.

As for the marketing argument, Munch's Oddyssey was given decent advertising compared to most other games that never have mass promotion of any kind. I didn't see one commercial for GTA3, but it's an incredible game and everybody likes it.

Don't get me wrong - I liked the first two Oddworld games. But if I want to think and be entertained, I'll read an interesting book. If I want to tune out whilst being entertained, I'll play a video game. Good games just do a better job of this.

Danny · #17 05-28-2002, 05:52 PM

I don't play games much these days, for various reasons - my computer's shit, I can't afford them, and I don't play them often enough for it to be worth getting them.

The only games I really play much these days are wonderfully tacky old games that I can download - Lemmings, Arkanoid, Space Invaders, Tetris...

I also quite like strategy games, like the Civilisation series, or real-Time Strategy games like Age of Empires. But I don't play them often, for the reasons above...

I'm not too keen on Shooters, partly because I'm not very good at them, and partly because many of them are very similar and repetitive, and so can get boring. There are, however, several shining exceptions to this rule, such as Clive Barker's Undying, which is a brilliantly atmospheric game with an involved and interesting storyline... GTA3 is good as well, as are the Half-Life games.

dumboddrw2 · #18 05-29-2002, 11:37 AM

Sorry people for being wrong.

Also,GTA 3 is cool also,but apart from that I still think FPS are gay. I like Deus Ex though. Thats cool.

Majic · #19 05-29-2002, 05:31 PM

There you go with "gay" again. But anyway, just wondering, what makes you think a game could either be emotionaly happy, or be a homosexual? Seriously dude, you have to much free time if you can prove that.

GimmeCoffee · #20 05-30-2002, 03:45 PM

That dude is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Eminem...
Tzats his prob......

Fazerina · #21 05-30-2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Abe Babe
But I get the impression that a lot of people like games where you shoot and kill and the bigger the gun the better. Or the more blood that you can see the better.

And there isn't any blood and body parts flying around in Oddworld Quintology...

Anyway, I can't understand why people love these shooting games so much. I think they're boring (and extremely stupid). I mean... You walk around and shoot people...*woohoo* And all of those games are alike. When you've seen one, you've seen them all. So why do you have to get more of them? Beats me. I've only got two of these kind of games and I got both of them for free and both of them i have played once. The other one's name is Rage something and we got it with the computer and the other one is some crappy old game, where there are nazi signs everywhere and you walk in some house shooting people and shooting dogs (which is something I don't want to do, so I stopped playing there...

).

I don't get "YOU PLAY ODDWORLD!!? Don't you got any taste of games?" from my friends, because none of them have ever heard of Oddworld... Well, my friend, Minna has.

She's played AO with me and she loved it.

***Wil*** · #22 05-30-2002, 04:56 PM

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Anyway, I can't understand why people love these shooting games so much. I think they're boring (and extremely stupid). I mean... You walk around and shoot people...*woohoo*

I've been playing a game a bit like that - can't remember what it's called though. It's the only game of got on my Xbox, but I just can't think what it's called. Oh, now what was it?

***Xavier*** · #23 05-30-2002, 05:50 PM

Max Payne?
cool game with a cool feature the slow motion

Majic · #24 05-31-2002, 02:01 AM

In my opinion, shooting games are actualy becoming much different. Like Xavier said, Max Payne is pretty much one of a kind. Halo has not only a great plot but actual stradegy besides rushing in and killing huge hords of ememies (well, most of the time

). GTA3 reminds me alot of driver and Max payne kinda put together, though theres really nothing like it. When Goldeneye for N64 came out that was kinda like the first kind of game like it, I mean it was hard and cool. And we can't forget glorious Half-Life, no one can forget the game with like the coolest plot and good gameplay.

I remember a long time ago though, when I was a little todler, and there was like Doom and Quake out. Then all the expansions and such just made it all the same. Duke Nukem was more or less the same thing. I think thats a change, probably because of the ability for new gameplay and more chances to make old possibilities better. Thats why Oddworld was cool, it was one-of-a-kind. Nowdays you can't really play a shooter and see them all, my opinion again of course.

By the way Jenni, I think the game was Wolfenstein. Escaping a Nazi base with guys and dogs, very repetetive and gets boring... That was the Doom era I believe, I wouldn't be suprised if you got it for free. If I remember correctly Doom2 even had two secret stages, first you go to the first level of Wolfenstein, then the last level. And I doubt your still reading my pointless knowledge of crap

Doug · #25 05-31-2002, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Majic_Abe
By the way Jenni, I think the game was Wolfenstein. Escaping a Nazi base with guys and dogs, very repetetive and gets boring... That was the Doom era I believe, I wouldn't be suprised if you got it for free. If I remember correctly Doom2 even had two secret stages, first you go to the first level of Wolfenstein, then the last level. And I doubt your still reading my pointless knowledge of crap

Wolfenstein was the precursor of Doom, written by the guys who later wrote Doom and then Quake. The first episode was widely distributed as shareware, as were all of those games for a while. PC Gamer distributed the entire Wolfenstein game on their demo disc a few months ago, timing it with the release of the 3D FPS Return to Castle Wolfenstein -- I found it very repetitive, as well, and when it started locking up my computer, it was easy to pack it in.

The first 2 episodes of Duke Nukem were side-scroller platform games, and the third was a 3D doom clone -- mindless, but at least with a sense of humor. The next Duke Nukem was supposed to be the ultimate FPS, rivaling Half-Life, UT, Quake, etc. It's development stalled, but apparently they've now put out an interim game called DN: Manhattan Project.

Ironically, although it is a 3D game, it is apparently a side-scroller platform game. Fun enough to rate a 75% rating -- pretty good. But the knock? Mindless and repetitive.

It seems like excellent gameplay or excellent story line can carry a game, but for a truly great game, you need both.

If you like games like Half-Life and Deus Ex, check out System Shock (pretty old) and System Shock 2. They were designed/written by the same guy who did Deus Ex. They're not as well known, but they are fun to play and have great storylines. And cheap, if you can find them. If you play Half-Life, there are an unbelievable number of single-player mods available on the web. I've only played Neil Manke's -- USS Darkstar is great, and if you like horror movies, check out the They Hunger series -- but there are a lot of others. You can get them at planethalflife.com (not sure of spelling).

By the way, speaking of PC Gamer, for the those Oddworld fans that just have to have anything Oddworld they can get their hands on, PC Gamer an issue or two ago printed a game-based crossworld puzzle, with a head and shoulders shot of Abe in the background. Abe's picture is all chopped up with the puzzle squares, of course, but it's Abe nonetheless.

LuxoJr · #26 06-01-2002, 08:52 AM

They Hunger is great. The second episode level where you get busted out of prison by a car-mounted rocket launcher is damned cool.

You know what could be scary as hell? Doom 3. Look at the screenshots.

Jacob · #27 06-01-2002, 11:18 AM

The Doom stuff used to scare me...but then i became de-sensitised. Something that happens when you have a fetish for maiming guys in certain games and then leaving them to die...in pain (Something Cannon Fodder used to do...ahhh, i loved that game.)

So, is anybody else de-sensitised?

Majic · #28 06-03-2002, 01:49 AM

They Hunger second episode? I have They Hunger, but by episode do you mean like there was more than one download or soemthing? I have a vauge memory of a car explosion or something somewhere, but I must sound like a fool now. I just find the coolest part being at the beggining where the church bell is ringing, and the end, "Fresh meat...". I also have whatever that one one person thing was where you like go and your like in a canyon area and you like go to a mansion or soemthing. Couple years ago. Then for multiplayer I have C-Strike, Team Fortress, Day of Defeat, and Action. Then I have Blue-Shift, never got arounf to Opposing force. Very lame, aren't I.

And I onlyhave the Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo thing, but great online play if theres ever any. I got rather bored of it though and went back to C-Strike. Ah man, I like rambling about crap. And you probably hate hearing my ramblings

LuxoJr · #29 06-03-2002, 07:53 AM

There are currently 3 episodes, as in different games with multiple levels within each. Like what companies used to do with Shareware.

Anyway, at the start of one level within the second episode, you're trapped in a jail cell. Each door within your block is opened and the inmates killed, until it comes to your turn. Just in time, a rocket blows open the wall behind you; revealing your friend with the infamous car mounted firearm.

The End. I never finished the whole thing, but it was fun killing zombies with an umbrella.

Majic · #30 06-03-2002, 08:58 PM

Ah, I shall get the second and 3rd episodes then. Hm, strange though, I seem to remember you getting eaten at the end of the first episode then. Time for some major bumming to beat crap...