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Originally posted by Danny
Okay, well let's start the List Of Where Neike Has Been Led Astray here, shall we? Communism is NOT rule by the Lower Class. For a start, that would be impossible by definition, as if the Lower Class began to rule, they would no longer be the Lower Class... But more importantly the most important thing about Communism is that there IS no Class. Communism holds Equality in the highest possible regard, and so everybody has Equal Opportunities in life. I'll nip the next point you might make in the bud - Under Communism, everyone is NOT payed the same regardless of their job. What does happen is that everybody has an equal chance of getting the good jobs, regardless of the wealth of their parents, of their race, of their gender, sexuality, etc.
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No, not paid the same. BTW, if everyone had an equal chance of getting jobs, then wouldn't those with more passion for their job eventually get more respect than those that don't? It would set up a hierachy again (which I have no problem with).
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Depends on the system used. Communism is an Ideology, not a set system of running a country.
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I realise that Russia are still stuck with socialism and communism is real in no country.
Sorry, I don't like the idea of being regarded as equal to Einstein, or to one of those idiots in my school. I think people have to stop being afraid to call people who are lazy "lazy" and people who are stupid "stupid". I know I am stupid on many accounts, but at least I know it, and I try to get rid of that. Like, how did manson say? "You should take an IQ test before they allow you breed" or something along those lines. I'd probably fail *laughs* but I still believe in that.
Equality in getting jobs and such... but wouldn't it in the end land up either as the people giving jobs picking the best out anyway, or the injustice of first-come-first-get would set in. Imagine how frustrating it would be to have some incompetent nerd snatch a job you would be good at away from you.
Okay, maybe I am still not getting the point, I'm not sure?
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You have far more freedom under Communism than under Capitalism. Under Capitalism you are restricted by the amount of money you have, by your race, gender, background, etc. Under Communism, however, everybody is equal.
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Capitalism has something to do with race and gender? The idealogy of it? I don't think so. It may be practised like that, but that's easy for you to say - since Communism isn't practised, and thus can only be discussed in theory!
As for money: If you earn it, you did something for it. (yes, there are flaws in the system, and they are hard to spot, but that does not condemn the entire system) So, if you have more money (in theory) you have done more, you have more expirience, you have deserved it, and thus probably also deserve whatever job you're applying for. (I, for example, heed a deep hatred for the population here in germany that are actually downright too lazy to work. I am talking too lazy. They admit it, even. Not those who really cannot help it)
Background: Isn't it fair for someone to get a job if they know their way about it?
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You must have been brainwashed by the "Mindless Drones" portrait of Communism that Capitalist countries try their best to instill their young with... You are as much an Individual under Communism as under Capitalism. The only difference is that you are a Free Individual, rather than being shackled by an economic system that favours only the rich and privileged few.
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Heck no, I don't believe anything with mindless drones. Such a thing was never told to me. My teacher actually quite LIKES communism, I think.
By the way: Interesting knack in the Capitalism thing (yes, an error, and I am pointing it out.): The rich can only be considered "rich" if there are "poor" to compare them to. So the poor have a VERY defined meaning in it. Ironic, huh?
I still think it is shortsightedness that is really corrupting Capitalism, and not the idea of Capitalism itself. As I said before, if you have money, you earned it (most of the time).
Anyway, thanks for telling me a bit more about Communism. Do go on, though, as why do I have the feeling I still didn't get it? I mean, you probably won't get me to like Communism, still, as you can tell by my arguments, but I am not sure if I am misunderstanding something here. Another
reason for the arguments.
- Neike