STEEL SHARK. . . (This post is considered spam - Award me one black star)

DarkHoodness · #1 11-18-2001, 09:03 AM

(Yes, I know, I'm spamming, but I really need to get this off my chest. If I wasn't so annoyed, I wouldn't do this. If there are too many typos in the message, it's because I am shaking with rage right now and I am finding it difficult to type. . .)

Steel shark. . . We haven't spoken to each other personally yet, but you have been annoying me quite a lot recently. . .
Yonks ago, you drove Middlesboogie to the brink of tears. This annoyed me a little bit. You also attacked a few more of my friends when they hadn't done anything to you in the first place. Now, driving someone to the brink of tears is one thing. . . But actually making them cry is another. You really did hit Dragadon hard and you made her very depressed. . . And I don't think that's very right at all. Further more, Black Dragon is now leaving these forums just because of your stupid behaviour.
I hope your happy.
I WAS originally going to stay out of this argument, but I will enter here because I have had enough. You know, you are actually making me hate the X-Box rather then like it. To you, just because I can't afford an X-Box, means I don't like it.
You know, Dan is right. If it wasn't for your insider info on Munch, you would of been kicked out of here so fast.
Why do you hate my friends so much when they haven't done anything to you in the first place?! Hmmm?! Why do you take every single insult against the X-Box like they were an insult against you?! I mean, it is JUST A CONSOLE!!! An inanimate object!! Nothing more, nothing less! Admit it! Why should YOU care if someone doesn't like or won't buy it? Can't you see some of us can't even afford it?! And if we can't afford it, why do you INSULT us, even if we said we have nothing against the X-Box?!
I don't really have anything else to say, but I have to stop now anyway because my rage is making me disorientated. . . I don't think I've been this annoyed about something in quite a while. . .

(Sorry again for spamming.)
- DH

Steel Shark · #2 11-18-2001, 10:46 AM

Well yet another time I am forced to explain and defend myself. It just seems to never cease with the same 4 or 5 people. As you can see from the kid's words ( well you are 16 or so right) above he and his band Dragadon , Black dragon, Rettick,all very close coincidentally, and to an extent (I quess 1,2,Middlesboogie), have been savagely torn apart by this frenzied shark.

I will try and say this as clear as possible so no more of my words get more twisted then they have already been. I am not going into a detailed synopsis of how and why this has turned into what it is today. With you Dark hood, and Dragadon, Rettick, and lately another of your tight knit group Black dragon you have taken turns on me as if you are all tag team partners in wrestling. You are all in the RPG forums or whatever other friends activities groups and just really let this whole thing get out of control.

If you do not like XBOX so be it. Do you really think I care? Please I hope not. I do want to help people understand it's positives, I will also defend my beliefs, and many times I do so here.I do so with anything in life. It just so happens that here it is about XBOX. I have said from Day 1, get all systems, I own 3 PS2's, 4 XBOX's, and one Gamecube, I think options is where it is at. Sure I think XBOX is best, I see what's coming, I have advantages in this. That does not mean that I believe the other systems are not good, I believe they too give me more options. I love them, do you follow me so far? I do not think you people Hate XBOX, and even if you did, so, what do you think I lose sleep over it? Well I don't, trust me. Over this nonsense,probably yes a bit. Everything got twisted and turned and mixed up a little at a time with all of you. It's like the old fish story, at first it was 1 foot long, by the time the 5 th person talked of the fish in the story it was 5 feet long.

I have never , not once gone into any of your posts, any of you and knocked you. I only find myself just as I do now answering your crys. This is a Forum, sometimes people say something and well I give my thoughts and if they become tearful, sorry, for example if someone says XBOX will fail, I answer No it will not, because............ and when I give my answer if they cry or feel battered it's not my fault, they better watch what they say to begin with. I cannot help if others feel fragile and hurt, I just talk positive about a game console. It seems that you 4 get extra upset about my happiness and positivity because you cannot afford one or just don't care to have one, I don't know for sure what else to think. And you just cannot stand coming to this Forum and have to hear about XBOX this and XBOX that, and Munch this, because well you cannot play it now.

Every other day, this post is yet another example I have to defend myself. If it's not Dragadon in tears it's now Black dragon leaving because of me. Who is Black Dragon anyways, I have heard the name here, but we have never bumped into each other in any threads that I know of. But now suddenly Black Dragon has come to join his/her friends in this assault on me. You are all freinds and have set this in motion against me, and allowed reason to escape you. You have all let this spiral way out of control espescially since the XBOX release, that too is quite obvious.Black Dragon is leaving, why, because I love Munch and XBOX,What have I done to Black dragon, sorry for any problems I have caused this person, sorry for talking XBOX, sorry Black dragon cannot get one, sorry for Black dragon being upset that Dragadon has been in tears because of my defending XBOX and my love for it , God help you all, if that is the case Black Dragon needs help to the shrinks office. Don't read my posts, I do not read your's. All 4 of you Dragadon, Rettick, Black Dragon, Dark Hood, Who are you Dark hood, I don't know you, you are on your end of the street and I have been on mine, but now Dragadon has brought you in, dragadon has had no love for me from the beginning,and now has caused this to get out of hand, you have no real idea of how this has spiraled into what it has. You go by your friends thoughts and emotions. It seems to be a witch hunt.

What's one to say, I can go into exactly what is up here, but it will just put more oil on the fire. So a solution, the four of you and 1,2, Middlesboogie if she too feels the same way as you stay clear of me, as I will do all too willingly with you.Face it we come from different worlds, GOD do we, and I for one think we should stay on our own side of the tracks, better for all concerned, trust me I have no interest what so ever in your worlds. If you happen to come along and knock or say something negative in something I beleive in I will ignore your words. And when I talk of XBOX future games and all it's greatness and if you don't agree or dislike my thoughts then you all should just ignore my thoughts as well.

By the way, I have no insider info on Munch. So now I quess I can be kicked out of here. So kick me out of here for loving XBOX, and upsetting those who cannot afford one I quess. Sorry to be the one that reminds you of all that you miss, I did not know this was a crime. When there has been negativity spoken of XBOX I have jumped in, never to make people break down and cry, but to explain to them that they are misleading others whom may not know the difference. You know to defend my beliefs. If you never get one you don't,whatever your reason, I just want to explain my side of the story and give out any of my info.

I certanly waste tooooooooo much time with you young ones on this, and I cannot anymore. You stay on your side of the tracks and I shall stay on mine. Better for all concerned. And if we should bump into each other lets try and relax a little, and be a bit more understanding and not so quick to jump to false conclusions. I talk of all parties concerned here, including myself.

And one last time, for I will not allow myself to waste anymore time with this, I love XBOX, and think that PS2 and Gamecube offer extra variety in my game's choices. I just want all to know that XBOX is the real deal, that is my reason for talking of it, I do not want to hurt those whom cannot afford one or even those whom for any reason do not care to own one. Believe me my life changes not one bit if any of you have one or not.

So that's that for my endless speech, and let's just adhere to common sense and manners as of now, shall we.

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Steel Shark ]

One, Two, Middlesboogie · #3 11-18-2001, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Steel Shark:
I have never , not once gone into any of your posts, any of you and knocked you.

Yes you have. You knocked me in my N64 topic. You even said 'how does it feel to be knocked', so it is obvious you did it on purpose.

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Originally posted by Steel Shark:

Who is Black Dragon anyways, I have heard the name here, but we have never bumped into each other in any threads that I know of.

A surprising reaction, considering you nominated her as a spoiler mod.

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: One, Two, Middlesboogie ]

DarkHoodness · #4 11-18-2001, 11:04 AM

*Sigh* Here we go again with the 100 mile long posts.

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I have never , not once gone into any of your posts, any of you and knocked you.

I've seen you - You have done that once or twice.

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but now Dragadon has brought you in

No, I did this on my own accord. What, do you think she TELLS us to attack you?

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dragadon has had no love for me from the beginning

What ever did she do to you in the first place? Go on, say here what she did to you.
- DH

Steel Shark · #5 11-18-2001, 11:09 AM

You just love this don't you 1,2,? And what's wrong with 100 mile long posts, better than one liners of nothingness. Very rude of you once again.

Ok now that I am being scrutinised by detectives I again must answer and defend. I saw in that post Black dragon wanted to be picked. So I picked Black dragon as well as 3 others ( including Rettick). Just being a nice guy really. But you see how you people continue to try and twist this, you again try and twist this in to a negative. Now for trying to help someone I am being hung.

This just now is more proof of what is going on here. Just this answer from 1,2, perfect example and what a shame. And yes I did knock N64 when compraing it to XBOX, just showing you what you do to XBOX all the time, I wanted to show you some of your own medicine.

Just drop it, get over it. I have XBOX to get to, sorry if that hurts you, but deal with it. By the way of all the regulars I believe that Dragadon, 1,2, Middlesboogie ,Black dragon, and Dark hood are the only ones that have not even bothered to say thanks to Abe babe and Sydney post, shame on you, no excuses, so don't bother, too late, you had your chances, true colors are quite apparent,what a coincidence.........

Hey Dark hood, dont push it, you got that, wrong dude here trust me on this. Drop it. Get over it, it's XBOX time............

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Danny · #6 11-18-2001, 11:30 AM

Sharkie, you present a very reasonable argument here, it is a shame that it is not borne out by your behaviour in other topics. You claim ignorance of what you've done, so let me refresh your memory:
http://www.oddworldian.net/oddworldf...c&f=1&t=001055

"It is great, and for you whom always get your jealousy in the way ( Dragadon) get over it.You are just pissed that you have no XBOX and therefore cannot play Munch, so stop ragging on everything possible,when/IF you get one fine, until then stop bitching on every other post about people talking positive about Munch and Oddworld and XBOX just because you cannot afford one or are to lame to understand it's greatness,you just cannot stand it when others are feeling good and happy it is very apparent, get off of your trip Miss negative." I don't know if you are trying to upset people deliberately, or are just too insensitive to see how offensive this is, but this is just one example of how you repeatedly try to make an enemy of anybody who does not own an Xbox.

"Enough with stepping around you, avoiding your B.S." Her B.S. in this case was defending Kristen's request that people constrain their "I got an Xbox" posts to one topic. I fail to see your problem with that. If you don't like it, take it up with Kristen, not with Rach.

Now I'm going to skip the rest of that post, just go and read it for yourself. I'm now going to skip to your next post.

"Stop kissing arse "BOY". You ain't gonna get none dweeb." Does this sound like the talk of someone who has "never , not once... knocked you"?

"You are a clueless prick whom hides behind your mointor coming out with nothing but negative crap and attacks anytime someone is positive." See Above.

This following was addressed to Black Dragon, whom you claim to have never encountered: "You clueless little peasant, ban me then for defending my rights." Your right to flame people whom you have taken a dislike to for some reason?

And even in this very topic, you've either said deliberately inflammatory things, or you're just too insensitive to see it...

"As you can see for the kid's words above he and his band Dragadon , Black dragon, Rettick, and to an extent (I quess 1,2,Middlesboogie), have been savagely torn apart by this frenzied shark." Referring to Eddie as "the kid" isn't exactly going to help the situation, is it? And I have no idea where you got the idea we were some kind of gang ganging up on you. The only reason we have teamed up together is that you have launched unprovoked attacks on each of us, individually. If you ask me to provide you with examples, I will readily do so.

Your next paragraph was clean of insults, but was irrelevant. Our quarrel with you is not about the Xbox. In fact, we had no quarrel with you until you started one with us. Our quarrel with you is that you have been treating us like shit. Nothing more, nothing less.

"It seems that you 4 get extra upset about my happiness and positivity" Your repeatedly Sniping at us just because, for one reason or another, we are not getting an Xbox, is neither Happy nor Positive.

"You... have... allowed reason to escape you." Give me one example of a time WE have been unreasonable. I am looking for a direct quote, or a link to a topic.

"Black Dragon is leaving, why, because I love Munch and XBOX" Why do you always think everything is about the Xbox? We don't care about your opinions, we love Munch and the Xbox every bit as much as you! The reason Em decided to leave was because of the way you were behaving, because of the way you create arguments where there are none.

"And when I talk of XBOX future games and all it's greatness and if you don't agree or dislike my thoughts then you all should just ignore my thoughts as well." Why would we disagree with you? I, for one, have never disputed the brilliance of the Xbox. I merely expressed the belief that it would be unpopular. This was no reflection on my opinions of the Xbox, it was just a prediction.

"Sorry to be the one that reminds you of all that you miss" We never objected to you talking about the Xbox. I will say this one last time: The only thing we object to is your Flames.

"You young ones" Once again you show how unthinking you are about what you say.

Now, look, I don't want us to be enemies, but you have to learn to be more sensitive about what you say. This whole argument is just silly because, if you look at it, we actually agree on pretty much everything. We all love Munch and the Xbox, maybe some more than others, but none of us are in any way "Anti-Xbox". I hereby apologise for allowing you to rile me so much, but I would expect an apology from you in return, for allowing yourself to act like this.

Once that's done, we can try to put this whole sorry affair behind us.

Robbo · #7 11-18-2001, 12:52 PM

Exactly. This is a Oddworld Forum for people who love Oddworld and last time I checked MO was an Oddworld game. So why are their arguements concerning it? As for the Xbox, I'm sure I speak for everyone on this Forum when I say everyone would be delighted to have an Xbox. Just because people can't afford or get it dosen't mean they don't want it. I know it's frustrating when people mindlessly insult a thing that you so apparentley enjoy, but nobody here is insulting either you or the Xbox. So before you reply, stop, breathe deep breaths, and take a chill pill.

(note the Oddicon: NO INSULTS!!!)

Abe's son · #8 11-18-2001, 03:58 PM

ss what is rong with you go sit in the frige...and chill

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Abe's son ]

Steel Shark · #9 11-18-2001, 07:13 PM

As of now you deserve no dignified answers from me. But I shall continue to talk XBOX, so fasten your seatbelts.

Robbo · #10 11-18-2001, 07:48 PM

Like we're gonna listen. Do you ever talk about anything else???????

Danny · #11 11-18-2001, 07:52 PM

Sharkie, all we were after was an apology. Are you really so proud that that is beyond you?

Steel Shark · #12 11-18-2001, 07:58 PM

You foolish kid.........you owe me one........get a job you poor twit, what a foooooooooool.........

Robbo · #13 11-18-2001, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Steel Shark:
As of now you deserve no dignified answers from me.

Why? What have we done? Stop being so high and mighty and apologise! I apologise to you, Steel Shark, if I have ever insulted you or the Xbox. See, I didn't shrivel up and die after saying that. Your turn!

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Munchy ]

Steel Shark · #14 11-18-2001, 08:01 PM

You clown Munchy, just look at my life after Halo topic, perfect example, you foooooooooool. God your jokes....

General Drippik · #15 11-18-2001, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Steel Shark:
Well yet another time I am forced to explain and defend myself. It just seems to never cease with the same 4 or 5 people. As you can see from the kid's words ( well you are 16 or so right) above he and his band Dragadon , Black dragon, Rettick,all very close coincidentally, and to an extent (I quess 1,2,Middlesboogie), have been savagely torn apart by this frenzied shark.

I will try and say this as clear as possible so no more of my words get more twisted then they have already been. I am not going into a detailed synopsis of how and why this has turned into what it is today. With you Dark hood, and Dragadon, Rettick, and lately another of your tight knit group Black dragon you have taken turns on me as if you are all tag team partners in wrestling. You are all in the RPG forums or whatever other friends activities groups and just really let this whole thing get out of control.

If you do not like XBOX so be it. Do you really think I care? Please I hope not. I do want to help people understand it's positives, I will also defend my beliefs, and many times I do so here.I do so with anything in life. It just so happens that here it is about XBOX. I have said from Day 1, get all systems, I own 3 PS2's, 4 XBOX's, and one Gamecube, I think options is where it is at. Sure I think XBOX is best, I see what's coming, I have advantages in this. That does not mean that I believe the other systems are not good, I believe they too give me more options. I love them, do you follow me so far? I do not think you people Hate XBOX, and even if you did, so, what do you think I lose sleep over it? Well I don't, trust me. Over this nonsense,probably yes a bit. Everything got twisted and turned and mixed up a little at a time with all of you. It's like the old fish story, at first it was 1 foot long, by the time the 5 th person talked of the fish in the story it was 5 feet long.

I have never , not once gone into any of your posts, any of you and knocked you. I only find myself just as I do now answering your crys. This is a Forum, sometimes people say something and well I give my thoughts and if they become tearful, sorry, for example if someone says XBOX will fail, I answer No it will not, because............ and when I give my answer if they cry or feel battered it's not my fault, they better watch what they say to begin with. I cannot help if others feel fragile and hurt, I just talk positive about a game console. It seems that you 4 get extra upset about my happiness and positivity because you cannot afford one or just don't care to have one, I don't know for sure what else to think. And you just cannot stand coming to this Forum and have to hear about XBOX this and XBOX that, and Munch this, because well you cannot play it now.

Every other day, this post is yet another example I have to defend myself. If it's not Dragadon in tears it's now Black dragon leaving because of me. Who is Black Dragon anyways, I have heard the name here, but we have never bumped into each other in any threads that I know of. But now suddenly Black Dragon has come to join his/her friends in this assault on me. You are all freinds and have set this in motion against me, and allowed reason to escape you. You have all let this spiral way out of control espescially since the XBOX release, that too is quite obvious.Black Dragon is leaving, why, because I love Munch and XBOX,What have I done to Black dragon, sorry for any problems I have caused this person, sorry for talking XBOX, sorry Black dragon cannot get one, sorry for Black dragon being upset that Dragadon has been in tears because of my defending XBOX and my love for it , God help you all, if that is the case Black Dragon needs help to the shrinks office. Don't read my posts, I do not read your's. All 4 of you Dragadon, Rettick, Black Dragon, Dark Hood, Who are you Dark hood, I don't know you, you are on your end of the street and I have been on mine, but now Dragadon has brought you in, dragadon has had no love for me from the beginning,and now has caused this to get out of hand, you have no real idea of how this has spiraled into what it has. You go by your friends thoughts and emotions. It seems to be a witch hunt.

What's one to say, I can go into exactly what is up here, but it will just put more oil on the fire. So a solution, the four of you and 1,2, Middlesboogie if she too feels the same way as you stay clear of me, as I will do all too willingly with you.Face it we come from different worlds, GOD do we, and I for one think we should stay on our own side of the tracks, better for all concerned, trust me I have no interest what so ever in your worlds. If you happen to come along and knock or say something negative in something I beleive in I will ignore your words. And when I talk of XBOX future games and all it's greatness and if you don't agree or dislike my thoughts then you all should just ignore my thoughts as well.

By the way, I have no insider info on Munch. So now I quess I can be kicked out of here. So kick me out of here for loving XBOX, and upsetting those who cannot afford one I quess. Sorry to be the one that reminds you of all that you miss, I did not know this was a crime. When there has been negativity spoken of XBOX I have jumped in, never to make people break down and cry, but to explain to them that they are misleading others whom may not know the difference. You know to defend my beliefs. If you never get one you don't,whatever your reason, I just want to explain my side of the story and give out any of my info.

I certanly waste tooooooooo much time with you young ones on this, and I cannot anymore. You stay on your side of the tracks and I shall stay on mine. Better for all concerned. And if we should bump into each other lets try and relax a little, and be a bit more understanding and not so quick to jump to false conclusions. I talk of all parties concerned here, including myself.

And one last time, for I will not allow myself to waste anymore time with this, I love XBOX, and think that PS2 and Gamecube offer extra variety in my game's choices. I just want all to know that XBOX is the real deal, that is my reason for talking of it, I do not want to hurt those whom cannot afford one or even those whom for any reason do not care to own one. Believe me my life changes not one bit if any of you have one or not.

So that's that for my endless speech, and let's just adhere to common sense and manners as of now, shall we.

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Steel Shark ]

CRAP ON!!!!

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #16 11-18-2001, 08:04 PM

Oh boy, here we go! The topics that reach like ten million post because no one can't agree with anyone. That's why I keep everything to my self for now on.

Abe's son · #17 11-18-2001, 08:05 PM

GO DRIPPIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(i think you spell it that way don't you?)

Danny · #18 11-18-2001, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Steel Shark:
You foolish kid.........you owe me one........get a job you poor twit, what a foooooooooool.........

1) I DO have a job, thank you very much.

2) "Twit"? I'll bet I'm cleverer than you were at my age, you stuck-up Prick!

3) What exactly do I owe you an apology for? I have never wronged you except when provoked, and you know it!

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #19 11-18-2001, 08:13 PM

LOL, this topic is soo funny and crazy. *Grabs popcorn bag*

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #20 11-18-2001, 08:18 PM

Nothing personally Middle, and I not trying to be attacked but, Why were your crying ? How can you cry over the internet over someone said about you even though they don't know you?

Danny · #21 11-18-2001, 08:20 PM

I suppose she was crying at the sad state of humanity, in which someone as obviously nasty as Sharkie can become so rich... Or maybe she's just more sensitive than some...

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #22 11-18-2001, 08:22 PM

OOOH, Okay.

Steel Shark · #23 11-18-2001, 08:31 PM

Pinky just ignore these people, it's not worth your time. I will do so as of now as well. It's dual extra Large HDTV and XBOX time, no more wasting time on very obvious jealousy. Have a nice XBOX day, I'm having one....... Now leave it alone people, lets just stay on our own side of the tracks, that's why I live in guard gated communities, I wish we could have them here.Oh anything to avoid the riff raff....

Danny · #24 11-18-2001, 08:39 PM

Good. That's the way life should be. You stick with the Xbox, and I'll stick with friends. At the end of the day, we've both apparently got what will make us happiest...

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Rettick ]

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #25 11-18-2001, 08:39 PM

Yeah, let's forget the whole thing, and go to the near by pizza place! I'm paying!

Danny · #26 11-18-2001, 08:43 PM

Yes... Pizza solves all problems...

Abe's son · #27 11-18-2001, 09:09 PM

i NEED pizza

glukkon_daniel · #28 11-18-2001, 11:02 PM

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As of now you deserve no dignified answers from me.

Read: "As of now, I have no dignified answer. Shit."

General Drippik · #29 11-19-2001, 02:46 AM

To dark hood: I don't think this post is spam. I think it proves a good point.
To Steel Shark: Actually, I don't even read 100000000000000 word posts because they are too boring. And a one lined post can prove a good point/be useful. EG: I have to close the forums now.

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: General Drippik ]

Sydney · #30 11-19-2001, 03:21 AM

Alright. Although things have seemed to settle down towards the end of this topic up until now, I obviously have to say something. I'm very disappointed that Black Dragon has decided to leave, and I'm very unhappy that people have allowed the situation to escelate this far.

As an Administrator, it's hard to say something that will solve the problem while leaving everyone happy; I want to be friends with everyone here.

First of all, Steel Shark. I understand that you only want to present the Xbox in a good light and become irritated when people mouth it off. I must say though, in your responses you can be insulting, belittling and very unkind. I'm sure you recognise this, and you feel your responses are justified. But I'm afraid the forums are not a place for this. Having said that, everyone will agree that you have a lot to contribute to Oddworld Forums and it would be a shame for this to be overshadowed with the constant arguments you're involved in.

To the others who Steel Shark claims to be conspiring against him, you've played a part in perpetuating these fights, too. There've been many instances where you could have taken Steel Shark's comments with a grain of salt, especially those which are not deserving of a response. There have also been people who have said intentionally malicious things against Lorne Lanning and the Xbox, to which Steel Shark's outrage is understandable - but clearly, his insults are not justifiable. Nobody should have allowed Steel Shark's comments to manifest within them and gnaw at them. Once you've gotten the excuse, I've noticed a pack-mentality that has been used to attack Steel Shark. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to take sides here, both parties have contributed to this mess. Perhaps even us administrators, for allowing it to go on this far.

I'm also disappointed with the people who aren't involved with this who jumped in and added their piece of wood to the flames.

I'm hoping that we will recognise the problem, apologise to each other, respect each other and become friends. Wouldn't it be great if we all apologise for our slip-ups, forgive each other and become happy again?

If this can't happen, I understand. If it can't, I want you to stick with your words and ignore each other. If I see even one comment, insult or provocative post once this angry venting thread has run its course, the member will be banned. This applies to everyone. I was really upset to read this post and I don't want anything like this to happen again. Some might say that it's only a message board, but it's easy to forget that the members posting are people as real as you would find on the street.

If any more needs to be said, say it in this topic. Please don't let it flow into other threads.