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03-07-2012, 08:10 AM
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Bring this mother fucker down. March 20th, I'm going to try and put up some posters in London to raise awareness to the cause. After watching this, might any of you try and make a difference?
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03-07-2012, 08:11 AM
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Oh jeez, not this again. Isn't it enough that everyone is spamming this shit across every Youtube video?
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03-07-2012, 08:13 AM
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Side readings.

Thanks to Hobo and Wil for those.
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Oh no, not this goddamn bandwagon. STM you would fall for this.
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03-07-2012, 08:25 AM
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Read the two links WoF links to. They're not side reading. They're vital reading (although, yes, the first is six years old).

And here's another.
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It's a good cause though don't you think?
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It's a good cause though don't you think?
Finish the following proverb: 'The road to hell... '
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It's a good cause though don't you think?
No. Good intention, I'm sure, but not a good cause. Unless you want to support an army that rapes and loots. Unless you want to rob Uganda of its agency. And if you're happy doing that, I reserve the right to judge you. A lot.

I'll say this: If you're moved by IC's videos and feel compelled to share them, then I'm not questioning your motives or your intentions or your heart. I'm happy for you that you feel that way instead of not giving a shit. But you need to do your research before you launch into a campaign the context and implications of which you don't even begin to understand.
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If you set YouTube comments to automatically update you can actually watch the negative comments being flooded off the screen.

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I heard about this at school today. Scary shit.
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No. Good intention, I'm sure, but not a good cause. Unless you want to support an army that rapes and loots. Unless you want to rob Uganda of its agency. And if you're happy doing that, I reserve the right to judge you. A lot.

I'll say this: If you're moved by IC's videos and feel compelled to share them, then I'm not questioning your motives or your intentions or your heart. I'm happy for you that you feel that way instead of not giving a shit. But you need to do your research before you launch into a campaign the context and implications of which you don't even begin to understand.
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You completely read it wrong, I meant that the campaign against him is a good cause.
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03-07-2012, 09:24 AM
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That's too simple. The issue is only good guy/bad guy because of your perspective. Not to say he's not an evil man, but hollering to give money to the army of a country where he's not even active to take him down, when peace talks are progressing isn't very intelligent.
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Fundamentally it's a just cause and media attention is what might push a modicum of safety for Ugandan citizens. I do understand that Invisible Children is not a fantastic charity, equally as interested in monetary greed as it is helping the African communities, but I'm not doing it for them, I'm doing it for the Ugandans. And I have done some further reading, before I posted this topic in fact, I stand by my decision to try and help in whatever form instead of sitting on my arse and condemning people doing work to stop a militia from mutilating the faces of ten year olds.
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I stand by my decision to try and help in whatever form instead of sitting on my arse and condemning people doing work to stop a militia from mutilating the faces of ten year olds.
Keep them passive aggressive tendencies in check, sir. They don't win you arguments and they won't make you friends.
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I was merely backing up my statement with how I feel, if you find that passively aggressive than that's unfortunate. But it's not intentional.
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So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...
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So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...
You take my comment too literally. What I was trying to get across, is that STM is ad homimening the blazes out of people raising legitimate concerns with IC's methods, facts and justification.
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If you feel like that I do apologise, I wasn't meaning to come across as overtly rude or dickish. I do think it's nice that the West is raising awareness of just causes though, however blurred by the representative charities. If we foster empathy when it appears so strongly, as it has done these last few days, perhaps there's some hope for third world countries.
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My totally apolitical friend who is absent of virtually any form of opinion on anything, sent me a link to this campaign on facebook. Not to say it's a bad cause, but fads crisp my bacon.

Also, what WoF said, peace talks are continuing, let's not petrol up that fire.
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If you feel like that I do apologise, I wasn't meaning to come across as overtly rude or dickish. I do think it's nice that the West is raising awareness of just causes though, however blurred by the representative charities. If we foster empathy when it appears so strongly, as it has done these last few days, perhaps there's some hope for third world countries.
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So he's trying to use this campaign as a place to make new friends?

Yeah sure...
Shut up you stinky little gremlins. Stop arguing back and read the links WoF posted, or you have absolutely no place in this thread, OP or not.

KONY 2012 is basically one big line of white people patting each other's butts for something that hasn't gotten done yet. Does anyone have that image of the fuckturds from Invisible Children handing off weapons with their skinny little arms to a bunch of African Guerilla fighters?
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http://whitthef.wordpress.com/tag/invisible-children/

The picture is in the article.
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I'm not stinky D=

And I do understand his point, so perhaps you're not reading my posts properly, because, as I said, it's this public display of empathy which really moved me, not so much the organisation that started it.

EDIT: Urgh, that picture is horrible, but that guy in the middle, I want to punch his fucking face.
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There's something about those 3 that I don't seem to like, can't exactly say what it is though, something seems wrong.

Also, the guy in the black t-shirt reminds me of Wil.
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Is it empathy or cheap sympathy? Are people really empathizing with the issue, or are they just passing the video on to friends to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel after having watched it?
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Scott Pilgrim meets Blood Diamond.
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There's something about those 3 that I don't seem to like, can't exactly say what it is though, something seems wrong.
There is a possibility that it may have something to do with the fact that they are three weedy Westerners with everything they could ever wish for standing there lookin' cool with some guns. Some fucking message.
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Is it empathy or cheap sympathy? Are people really empathizing with the issue, or are they just passing the video on to friends to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel after having watched it?
Could be...maybe both?
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Could be...maybe both?
True empathy is understanding. Understanding you don't simply pass on to the next tweeter. Understanding means commitment.

So no, probably not both. Not to the vast majority of people sharing that link and posting it everywhere. Maybe to you, if you have the commitment and the respect to stick with the situation, continue gathering information, find any way you can to support efforts, keep the emotional attachment you feel now and see it through. That's most certainly not the majority of people though.

I don't pretend to empathize with the situation.
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