The Boardroom - how does it work

[Tristan-117]

Hi all...this is my first thread on this sight so I hope you all like it.

In Abe's Oddysee the cutscene at the beginning of the game and the last screen of the game you see the boardroom with Mullock on the main platform and the board of directers standing on platforms around the room.

What I really can't get is how the heck they can even leave the room? There is a door that abe peeks his head through to eavsedrop but walking through that door will cause you to fall right down. I mean how can Mullock go anywhere other than his small platform?

[moxco]

I'm guessing the platforms can sorta move around the room, ie; the door.

[Sekto Springs]

Yeah they most likely move around on some sort of track, or perhaps there is a retractable catwalk of some kind. The boardroom, I thought, was a design that was very cool but didn't take alot into consideration either. Despite being the place of congregation by the various Cartel executives, it still had the filthy industrial appearance of the rest of the factory. Given the finicky and highly stylish taste of the Glukkons, I find it contradictory to their character that they would agree to meet in such a dank place.

[moxco]

Despite being the place of congregation by the various Cartel executives, it still had the filthy industrial appearance of the rest of the factory. Given the finicky and highly stylish taste of the Glukkons, I find it contradictory to their character that they would agree to meet in such a dank place.

This.

[Tristan-117]

hmm I have to agree with sekto springs but I I do love the design its really cool I think but The way they get in and out of the boardroom still bugs me.

Something else I thought was weird was is just before the boardroom level starts (the last level) there is a quick cutscene where you see Mullock watching abe possess a slig on the monitor/projector and there aren't any other glukkons in the room but at the end when you drop into the room all of the other glukkons are there screaming "Kill 'em!!!"

[Sekto Springs]

Something else I thought was weird was is just before the boardroom level starts (the last level) there is a quick cutscene where you see Mullock watching abe possess a slig on the monitor/projector and there aren't any other glukkons in the room but at the end when you drop into the room all of the other glukkons are there screaming "Kill 'em!!!"

Well, that was done for dramatic effect. It was the very last leg of gameplay and you had to use your Shrykull power for something.

As for a reason that adheres to the actual plot, perhaps Molluck called them there to witness Abe's demise, or it could have simply been they were about to have another meeting. Bear in mind Molluck was not in the room at the time, so its open to speculation.

[used:)]

I think due to Molluck's penny-pinching nature, he kept the quality of the boardroom as inexpensive as possible. It's been a while since I looked at it, but I think I remember seeing elevator tracks behind the platforms or something. I used to think they had small doors behind them, but that wouldn't make sense as we know how much space lies between the interior of the boardroom and the outer coridor.

[Nate]

Remember that Rupturefarms was regarded as a fairly low-level posting for Molluck. It may have been the largest meat-processing plant around, but the executives would not have been comparitively wealthy or powerful within the Magog Cartel.

[Sekto Springs]

the executives would not have been comparitively wealthy or powerful within the Magog Cartel.

The size of their shoulder-pads say differently. That is, if you're going by the standard Glukkon hierarchy (Pud-Glockstar). It's safe to assume Molluck was, at the very least, at Big Cheese status right? The others had the same attire. So are we just going to chalk that up as an anachronism or acknowledge the hierarchy as presented in MO?

[Nate]

The Glukkons that you know are the Abes of the Glukkons—​they’re the little guys. Molluck the Glukkon—​he’s just a chump in the scheme of things. Sure, he seems like a big guy out here running the third world meat plant but then we come out here and look at DuPont or Proctor and Gamble. Now, you’re going to be an executive at Proctor and Gamble and you’re going to say ‘Very good, welcome aboard! We’re sending you off to… the middle of the Sahara Desert to run our gas line.’ So Molluck is a guy who got shafted out to the third world to manage this factory and he’s just out there until he can afford his house in Lake Como, so to speak. His mother is Lady Margaret, who is a member of the Magog Cartel.

Now, one of the things The X‐Files did beautifully was that as you got closer to what you thought was the core, these people you thought were all‐powerful were just pawns in a game. And I believe that’s how life works. It’s always ‘Follow the money, follow the money.’ Every time you really want to know what’s going on in the world you’ve got to just follow the money. So in Oddworld, I wanted to have more of that invisible transparency, that you just go up and up and up and you think this guy is king and he’s getting browbeaten by the guys that really employ him. Then you find out they’re not at the top of the game, someone has employed them because the world is very mysterious that way in that it hides who’s really in control.

From here.

[Sekto Springs]

From here.

Poor Molluck.

[Crashpunk]

People like you who question Oddworld and Physics are stupid

[Xavier]

People like you who question Oddworld and Physics are stupid

I think I have your answer to why you have the impression nobody likes you over here. By the way you just have broken rule number one here...

[Josh]

They look like the retract, leaving dumb Glukks who dissagree with Molluck fall into a pit.


Or they pull back and go to a door.



Molluck is a Big-Cheese.

[Xavier]

Molluck is a Big-Cheese.

You realise you are contradicting what the creator of Oddworld said a few months ago? I know it looks like Molluck is a big cheese, but apparently he only dresses like one.

[Josh]

I thought when Lorne said Chump, he meant that he was a fool to trust his superiors.
And why would Lorne say that Molluck was Lady Maggies favourite son if he was only a Chump. Wouldnt she have chosen somegluk like Tex?

Ah well. If he's a Chump, he's a Chump.

[Havoc]

Even though Lorne created a cool universe, things change over time. I doubt the ranks were already around when they made AO or AE, so the size of the shoulder pads means nothing in these cases. To be honest I find the Glockstar rank a little stupid, something that was put in just to give MO that much more comedy. If a movie ever shows up I can almost say with 100% certainty that you won't ever see a Glockstar.

[Tristan-117]

Yes I agree although if there must be a glockstar rank then it shouldn't be the highest rank...instead something like capitalist or president should.

I also must insist Mullock is a Big Cheese regardless of whether the rank system was around back then or not.

[Phylum]

Mullok is a low ranking big cheese possibly. A sub-big cheese maybe?

[Xavier]

I also must insist Mullock is a Big Cheese regardless of whether the rank system was around back then or not.

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...4&postcount=10 !

I think it's safe to assume the status chart is only valid in the areas visited in MO, we can't expect all the Glukkons around Mudos to dress exactly the same.

[Josh]

Maybe Mollock is a Glockstar and just hates dressing like a gay vegas cowboy.

[EVP_Glukkon]

In the big scheme of things, Molluck is just a chump. To everone else below him, a very powerful Glukkon, and seems to have been the most powerful in that region. Thats how the power structure works, everyone who seems to be at the top of the chain, is really at the bottom of another chain.


The title of Glockstar however, is more of a celebrity status symbol. Not every Glukkon is a celeb. I consider a Big-Cheese and a Glockstar to be just 2 different types of the most successful Glukkon.

[Sekto Springs]

Maybe Mollock is a Glockstar and just hates dressing like a gay vegas cowboy.

I think this is the best explanation.

[Wil]

The Glockstar status doesn’t seem to be very popular with fans. But it makes perfect sense to me that in Glukkon society it’s the rich and successful businessman that has celebrity status. The outfit may be gharish, but that can be hand-waved by the need to make Glockstars the most visually distinguishing Glukkon rank, and accentuate the Glukkon ego.

Molluck is, by recent word of god, a low-ranking Glukkon. However, when the MO ranks were designed it's quite obvious they intended to correlate Molluck with the rank of Big Cheese. The use of his image in some rank charts supports this. However, this is probably done to convince the audience that Molluck is successful and powerful, and isn’t indicative of Lorne’s idea of the character changing. Molluck’s development through the Quintology sounds quite a fundamental part of it.

For an in-universe explanation, Molluck considers himself king of his own personal corporate empire. It’s this very blindness to his small position in the big scheme of things that makes the revelation so important to his story: it’s a revelation to him, too. But this doesn’t mean Molluck isn’t a Glockstar. These ranks might only apply to the more publicly visible businessmen. Why would an entity as paranoid as the Glukkons let their most powerful individuals have celebrity status? Even Glockstars are probably chumps in the end: after all, even the queen Glukkon is somebody else’s puppet.

And I think it’s pretty fucking obvious that the Glukkon executives in AO are holographic yesmen that don’t need to leave the boardroom. Molluck just turns them on and off whenever he wants. Abe was actually destroying the holographic projectors with that Shrykull power. Now you know.

[Xavier]

And I think it’s pretty fucking obvious that the Glukkon executives in AO are holographic yesmen that don’t need to leave the boardroom. Molluck just turns them on and off whenever he wants. Abe was actually destroying the holographic projectors with that Shrykull power. Now you know.

I all makes perfect sense now!

[used:)]

"Hey, you see that?"

"Yeaaahhh, they're goin' down."

"Hey Molluck! What are you doin', huh?!"

"Wut..."

Your logic is WRONG, Max. Wrong...

[Sekto Springs]

Gabe, clearly the holograms were malfunctioning that day.

[Wil]

He programmed them to be like that as the perfect invitation for him to start explaining his diabolical plan. This makes them come across as even more impressed because of the cynicism they started off with. Of course their support is completely pre-programmed, but that's fine for Molluck. He's not picky about whether his ego-stroking is genuine or artificial. That's why none of them pointed out the obvious flaw in killing the factory's workers, and this whole insular, big-headed setup of Molluck's is why he's been stuck in the middle of no where instead of being given any real power.

I mean duh.

[EVP_Glukkon]

Sarcasm?
Count me in!

"I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants."

[AlexFili]

It's a shame no-one thought to put two slog-huts on either side of the screen and release them at the same time... it would have saved a lot of money and sligpower. Or maybe to create a 1-width vertical vent and install a meat grinder in it. "Mmmm... sliced Abe".