"Bio-technology"

bobtheguy · #1 06-11-2009, 01:17 AM

I'm very interested in "Bio-technology" and have just heard about a new peice of technology scientists are working on, it does not have a name that I know of, and it's about the humans and computers. They're thinking about hooking up human brain cells into computers so that the computer will be able to "learn" or "adapt". I thought this was amazing when I first heard it... it's almost like something out of a sci-fi movie put into real life. So what do yall think about this?

Bullet Magnet · #2 06-11-2009, 01:41 AM

I've seen robots with rat brains already. The brain only lasts a few weeks, then they replace it. Each one behaves differently.

Before that I read about chips that utilised leech neurons.

moxco · #3 06-11-2009, 02:55 AM

This is scary. There have been some raving madmen in the past claiming that artificial intelligence will dominate. I thought nothing of it. Now that computers have brains (and therefore can think for themselves) I thinks it's dangerous. Not now (obviously) but in the future.

shaman · #4 06-11-2009, 03:08 AM

Skynet...

***Nate*** · #5 06-11-2009, 03:54 AM

Computer scientists developed artificial neurons years ago and have found them useful to solve a great number of problems. This is progressing on from there but I suspect that they will be of limited use, considering that there is no genetic system to train the neurons to specific scenarios and problems.

Anonyman! · #6 06-11-2009, 08:50 AM

Read Technological Singularity article on wikipedia. It's bout computers being able to improve themselves. Eventually discovering things at a ridiculously rapid pace. The idea is that eventually we will hook ourselves up to the computer. Once it learns to like, manipulate everything, our overmind will be as god.

MeechMunchie · #7 06-11-2009, 09:15 AM

There's always some kind of dystopian Matrix-esque future theory about scary advances in robotics. But the roboticists know about these dangers too, so they'd probably have a long, hard think about what they're about to do if they ever reach the point of being able to create a human-level artificial lifeform.

*Snigger* Long and hard.

bobtheguy · #8 06-11-2009, 12:00 PM

Yes I agree with you, because just because the computer uses brain cells does not mean it has emotions, and without emotions it will not need or want to take over the world, also it could not take over the world since it would not have a missile or gun hooked up to it. although even without emotions it could "adapt" in a "bad" way and shut itself down (as a solution) and lose loads of important data.

Mac Sirloin · #9 06-11-2009, 01:42 PM

My sister has a friend who's studying neuroscience. He says that we could make leaps and bounds if they let scientists use human test subjects.

used:) · #10 06-11-2009, 02:14 PM

Time to build Rapture.

Anonyman! · #11 06-11-2009, 02:42 PM

THAT ended up well. Still, I'm all for it.

GET TO IT BM

Dixanadu · #12 06-11-2009, 03:09 PM

Designing 'holes' would be a plus. For...linking purposes....

OddjobAbe · #13 06-11-2009, 03:58 PM

What a great joke.

bobtheguy · #14 06-11-2009, 04:01 PM

Also does anyone here beleive in a "supperior being" that was the "creator" or more commonly known as a god. I don't really think there is a god and that everyone goes to heaven and sits on clouds after they die, but I do have my own theory about life being created, also does anyone think it is slightly far-fetched that humans could evolve from something like an ameba.

Wings of Fire · #15 06-11-2009, 04:06 PM

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Also does anyone here beleive in a "supperior being"

No

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that was the "creator" or more commonly known as a god.

Yes

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I don't really think there is a god and that everyone goes to heaven and sits on clouds after they die, but I do have my own theory about life being created,

That's nice for you

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also does anyone think it is slightly far-fetched that humans could evolve from something like an ameba.

No less far fetched that the evolution of the language, of which we can track.

Anonyman! · #16 06-11-2009, 05:38 PM

Far-fetched? Nah. I'd like to believe in reincarnation, because the idea's appealing, but you can't just believe something because you want to.

Mac Sirloin · #17 06-11-2009, 05:57 PM

FUCKING GOD IS SHITTING anfels andh he lovws you alll

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I see you jockin' me.

bobtheguy · #18 06-11-2009, 06:56 PM

by the way by far-fetched that doesn't mean that I beleive in afterlife or re-incarnation, I don't really beleive in that stuff. Also about the stuff like bible storys and stuff, I don't really beleive those stories either.... I don't think your intended to, I think that they were meant for people to interpret as "lessons".

Anonyman! · #19 06-11-2009, 07:52 PM

Even the parts that weren't? Hurm.

Fil The Slig · #20 06-11-2009, 09:14 PM

The Matrix,Terminator,Neuroshima,Transformers XD.
All of these Movies/Games/Books/Comics/Whatevers say how it would be if Robots had Brain's. Didn't i mention Fallout? If they're gonna make such a thing,i ride all The Way from Holland and destroy it!

bobtheguy · #21 06-11-2009, 09:26 PM

as I said before
just because the computer uses brain cells does not mean it has emotions, and without emotions it will not need or want to take over the world, also it could not take over the world since it would not have a missile or gun hooked up to it. although even without emotions it could "adapt" in a "bad" way and shut itself down (as a solution) and lose loads of important data.

ArtemisPanthar · #22 06-12-2009, 10:11 AM

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as I said before
just because the computer uses brain cells does not mean it has emotions, and without emotions it will not need or want to take over the world, also it could not take over the world since it would not have a missile or gun hooked up to it. although even without emotions it could "adapt" in a "bad" way and shut itself down (as a solution) and lose loads of important data.

Actually, it'd be more terrifying to have a collection of intelligent robots -without- emotions, because then it would lack compassion, empathy, and all that good stuff that typically prevents us from being mindless killing machines (of course, it doesn't really work for us either). Otherwise, what we're talking about is using the baser animal part of the brain which tends to include the survival instinct. Theoretically, anyway. If the sapient robots perceive humanity as a threat to their species, they may respond aggressively and mindlessly.
Using a brain, especially a human brain, with the goal to have the being think, adapt, and grow requires emotions. Hence, its exceedingly difficult to truly separate our "thinking" brain with our "emotional" brain.

In anycase, anything they can do now likely wouldn't harm us and of course they're not going to give weapons to something so new and unpredictable. However, once the technology evolves it will likely go, as everything does, to the military. And therein lies the real problem - could such a being be able to tell the difference between the sides of a war? Or could it understand why 'these' humans are bad but 'we' are not? (hell, I barely understand it)

However, I haven't read about bio-technology in a long while so I'm being entirely speculative.

bobtheguy · #23 06-12-2009, 11:31 AM

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Actually, it'd be more terrifying to have a collection of intelligent robots -without- emotions, because then it would lack compassion, empathy, and all that good stuff that typically prevents us from being mindless killing machines (of course, it doesn't really work for us either). Otherwise, what we're talking about is using the baser animal part of the brain which tends to include the survival instinct. Theoretically, anyway. If the sapient robots perceive humanity as a threat to their species, they may respond aggressively and mindlessly.
Using a brain, especially a human brain, with the goal to have the being think, adapt, and grow requires emotions. Hence, its exceedingly difficult to truly separate our "thinking" brain with our "emotional" brain.

In anycase, anything they can do now likely wouldn't harm us and of course they're not going to give weapons to something so new and unpredictable. However, once the technology evolves it will likely go, as everything does, to the military. And therein lies the real problem - could such a being be able to tell the difference between the sides of a war? Or could it understand why 'these' humans are bad but 'we' are not? (hell, I barely understand it)

However, I haven't read about bio-technology in a long while so I'm being entirely speculative.

I guess it could "adapt" to humans in a bad way, but in what cases would we want or need them to be involved with the military.

ArtemisPanthar · #24 06-12-2009, 11:56 AM

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I guess it could "adapt" to humans in a bad way, but in what cases would we want or need them to be involved with the military.

In what cases would we want or need nuclear/atomic weapons in the military?

Technology always finds it home in war, at least temporarily. Personally, I can think of dozens of uses for intelligent machines in the military for both ethical and unethical reasons. I'm pessimistic enough that I forsee them being used for unethical reasons but justified by ethical concepts.

Anonyman! · #25 06-12-2009, 12:57 PM

Off the top of my head, vehicles piloted by computers would likely be more efficient.

bobtheguy · #26 06-12-2009, 01:47 PM

MA · #27 06-12-2009, 03:50 PM

come on BTG, you can get this one.

bobtheguy · #28 06-12-2009, 03:56 PM

no... I can't

Anonyman! · #29 06-12-2009, 04:26 PM

Dixanadu · #30 06-12-2009, 05:07 PM

Rather than use human beings as military infantry....you know where I'm going with this.

Might be a bad idea, considering such a thing usually goes bonkers.