Lochness

Oddey · #1 12-11-2007, 06:21 AM

What's your opinion on the Lochness monster? Mine is now that it's fake. Because of the lack of evidence and other. And I did search about this and found no results. And I found this may be an interesting topic. Too bad only a few others will.

Jordan · #2 12-11-2007, 06:31 AM

There's been so many hoaxes and false rumours, it's hard to believe. I think there's something there.

Hobo · #3 12-11-2007, 08:08 AM

STONE HENGE!

WHERE THE DEMONS DWELL

Bullet Magnet · #4 12-11-2007, 09:34 AM

Again, I am going to champion the sceptic cause here. I used to believe in it when I was young, just like I believed in just about everything sceptics don't, but now I demand evidence, and frankly, no unsubstantiated "witness" report is going to cut it. I know too well from experience that people will see what they want to see.

But notice that not once there did I deny the existence of some mysterious lakustrine creature. But there just isn't any reliable evidence, despite the best efforts of man. Again, in the face of a concerted effort to scientifically search and study the loch and other locations for cryptozoological organisms, even by believers, has systematically failed. If there is something there then there is an explanation for it. But we do not have the evidence yet to say what that would be.

Mac Sirloin · #5 12-11-2007, 09:58 AM

Am I the only one who thinks that this thread stemmed from that shitty Water Horse movie that's about to come out?

Anyway, I am pretty sure that since the first sighting tunred out to be fake, yeah, it's not real.

Zerox · #6 12-11-2007, 10:31 AM

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Because if so many people have seen it how can they all be hallucinating or whatever?

Not many people at all have 'seen it' and most, if not all, of these are related to the hoax incidents. Again, I also second what BM said: If there was something that big in there, we'd know it by now. And we don't, so I'm pretty sure it ain't in there. It seems unlikely a single plesiosaur or related could survive for such a long lifespan in there, and considering how cold it would be too. Completely unplausible from my point of view. I would possibly agree with BM in that I don't completely say it doesn't exist either, but then this case in particular has had no proof whatsoever other than c*appy (surprise surprise) photos and alleged sitings by hillbillies. No dung, eggs, zilch. Nothing else. And almost all the photos have been proved/admitted to be fake. To the extent that I don't see any realism in the whole story anymore.

BTW, it's Loch Ness, not Lochness.

Disgruntled Intern · #7 12-11-2007, 12:01 PM

If Nessie isn't real then where did they get the baby nessie for that new awesome movie the water horse i mean like hello!!!!

Strike Witch · #8 12-11-2007, 12:41 PM

In the words of Optimus Prime: "Ebay."

***Nate*** · #9 12-11-2007, 02:48 PM

Echoing Zerox; Hardly anyone actually claims to have seen the monster and the only photos have been proven to be fakes. This is just a myth that has gone out of control.

Mutual Friend · #10 12-11-2007, 02:49 PM

I've actually been to Loch Ness, and it was a strangely disquieting place, this mist came from nowhere - as mists are prone to do - and quickly covered the water. Bits of old castle dotted about also. And a cafe.

Just to let you know: no, it doesn't exist, but it's a nice little earner for Scotland, so who are we to judge? Damn Capitalist barbarian pigs that they are.

Salamander · #11 12-11-2007, 11:14 PM

As far as I'm concerned the Loch Ness doesn't exist.

Strike Witch · #12 12-11-2007, 11:20 PM

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As far as I'm concerned the Loch Ness doesn't exist.

I wish I had the ability to dismiss bodies of water from existence.

Mac Sirloin · #13 12-12-2007, 03:47 AM

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I wish I had the ability to dismiss bodies of water from existence.

Oh, do shut up.

Laser · #14 12-12-2007, 07:13 AM

hmm, Haven't scientists already swept it bare with a radar and found NOTHING?

becuase if they haven't then i'm kicking some arse when i next see a scientist (or my science teacher because i hate her)

Zerox · #15 12-12-2007, 09:05 AM

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hmm, Haven't scientists already swept it bare with a radar and found NOTHING?

becuase if they haven't then i'm kicking some arse when i next see a scientist (or my science teacher because i hate her)

Yeah, they did. I saw that on TV.

Oddey · #16 12-12-2007, 09:23 AM

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hmm, Haven't scientists already swept it bare with a radar and found NOTHING?

becuase if they haven't then i'm kicking some arse when i next see a scientist (or my science teacher because i hate her)

Wow! I didn't know that. So now my opinion is entirely changed.

***Nate*** · #17 12-12-2007, 03:16 PM

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hmm, Haven't scientists already swept it bare with a radar and found NOTHING?

Yes, but you're forgetting that the pleiosaur is a wily beast; capable of detecting modern radar and hiding behind rocks and nautical shrubbery. Also, Loch Ness is huge. It's impossible to scan it all at once.

Mutual Friend · #18 12-12-2007, 03:20 PM

Impossible... or just improbable?

*strokes chin*

The fact of the matter is, it's all a puddle of toss. Don't ask how I know, I just know. You may ask why I know, if it's worded nicely.

OANST · #19 12-12-2007, 03:51 PM

I bought my daughter Aquasaurs (not their real names) for her birthday this year. They are kind of like sea monkeys but bigger and much stranger looking.

Do not ask me why I put that in this thread. This is where it fit in my mind so I did it. Live with it.

Splat · #20 12-12-2007, 03:56 PM

As said, Loch Ness is rather huge, and cryptozoologists would argue that there are parts of Loch Ness where something could hide, but the place has been scanned more than enough times.

I'd like to say I think it existed but in the end there's so much evidence to suggest it doesn't. The big water-dwelling dinosaurs didn't live around Scotland: apparently it was too cold for them, and I believe (though I may be mistaken) that it's colder now than in 'prehistoric' times. Seriously, even to an Englander, Scotland is a cold, wet place.

In Scotland in centuries gone parents did tell their children that monsters lived in the Lochs and killed people who went too near as a way of stopping children from going too close and accidentally drowning themselves (try that one on your daughter, OANST!) Legends of the Loch Ness Monster would have been influenced by that. Ultimately you have to accept that the very first 'modern' sighting of the Loch Ness Monster, the one that started the whole myth, was an accidental hoax: a man built a very large model monster to amuse his son; some random stranger saw it and mistook it for a real monster. If the first sighting was fake, is it likely any others are real?

Having been to Scotland all of twice, I think it's fair to say that anything that makes the country more interesting isn't a bad thing. There's only so much enjoyment you can get out of looking at grass, sheep, emo-cows and laughing at the name of the Trossachs. (It's a mountain range!)
(Great, now all the Scottish members of OWF are going to be after my blood).

I'd like to believe, but I think it's fair to say it's not there.

Big Foot anyone?

Strike Witch · #21 12-12-2007, 05:03 PM

The only Cryptid I believe in are Chupacabras.

Because I want to.

Disgruntled Intern · #22 12-12-2007, 05:24 PM

Did you catch the blurb on The Colbert Report about the chupacabras being a pack of mutated dogs with a thirst for blood?

I was fantastic. And the pictures were lovely.

***Nate*** · #23 12-12-2007, 08:19 PM

'twas discussed here too:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=16022

Strike Witch · #24 12-12-2007, 09:03 PM

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I was fantastic.

Yes, yes, we know that, but stay on topic, please!

abe is now! · #25 12-13-2007, 05:13 AM

I think it is real but people exaggerates saying it is a "monster" ect. And I think that the persons who said they see it didn't lie. Maybe it is descendant of dinosaurs! LOL

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Zelda--Fan · #26 12-13-2007, 06:08 AM

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I think it is real but people exaggerates saying it is a "monster" ect. And I think that the persons who said they see it didn't lie. Maybe it is descendant of dinosaurs! LOL

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Acutally Nessie could be a decendent of a kind of Aquatic Dinosuar.

My opinion is... there has to be something down there, Loch ness is very deep And when the dinosaurs where whiped out..... Well lets Just say that maybe something survived in What is now Loch Ness.

Laser · #27 12-13-2007, 07:40 AM

More likely Dinosaurs would be found in the deepest part of the ocean in that trench thing.

Not that lake in scotland

Splat · #28 12-13-2007, 08:22 AM

As I said previously, all the big water-dwelling dinosaurs would have literally died ofthe cold if they'd lived in Loch Ness.

Zelda--Fan · #29 12-13-2007, 09:13 AM

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As I said previously, all the big water-dwelling dinosaurs would have literally died ofthe cold if they'd lived in Loch Ness.

Not if they Adapted to the harsh enviorment.

OANST · #30 12-13-2007, 09:16 AM

What sort of life span do you think these creatures have? Do you think that this lizard has the ability to stay alive for thousands or millions of years? If not then there would have to be multiple Nessies who are still mating. It seems unlikely that three or four enormous lake monsters could be living there and still avoid detection.