Vykker queries

magic9mushroom · #1 09-05-2006, 09:36 PM

Is it possible that Vykkers have genetically modified themselves? I mean, their body form seems a bit artificial, and they have the know-how.

***Nate*** · #2 09-05-2006, 09:42 PM

I don't think they have genetic-modification technology but if they did, I wouldn't be surprised if they used it on themselves.

Bullet Magnet · #3 09-06-2006, 05:21 AM

It is known that they surgically alter their bodies. Cosmetic amputations and skin grafts are common.

***Wil*** · #4 09-06-2006, 04:29 PM

“Gene splicing” is one of their most popular hobbies/fields of study, and that’s the old term for genetic modification. They clearly have the technology, but I couldn’t say how advanced it is.

On the subject of Vykkers, does anyone find it strange they are both into self mutilation and highly intolerant of pain?

Slaveless · #5 09-06-2006, 04:41 PM

Yeah, I am with Max on this one. Vykkers' skin is a result of drug treatment and life extension surgeries. So, yeah, they have that kind of technology. They also have the ability to modify other creatures' genes, like Fuzzles, Slogs, and Fleeches. I also believe that they could do gene altering technology on others, but it just might be that there isn't much say like a Glukkon, would want to change about themself.

And Max, it isn't very hard to believe. People smush bugs all the time, but I am for certain that no one enjoys having a paper cut.

Yet, I was going to say that they couldn't do it on themself (Ex: Vykker Z adds a Fleech gene to himself), without the help with others.

***Xavier*** · #6 09-06-2006, 11:33 PM

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And Max, it isn't very hard to believe. People smush bugs all the time, but I am for certain that no one enjoys having a paper cut.

Max was talking about self-mutilation, look at the vykkers' legs they clearly chopped something off.

on the other hand I guess they are anaesthetized when they do the cut off

used:) · #7 09-09-2006, 05:47 AM

I believe they are sadomasochists but only enjoy pain they know they have control over. If it's something out of their hands that could kill them then I think they would reject it.

Zerox · #8 09-10-2006, 01:09 AM

That's a good answer.
But that may also not be true. They could partially enjoy causing pain because they themselves are so intolerable of it. I'd think they use aneasthetic.
Their legs do seem to have stitches in...maybe they originally had something their that hindered them, so they get rid of them/have them rid of them in earlier stages of life?

***Nate*** · #9 09-10-2006, 01:37 AM

They had evolved from tree-climbing creatures so they had to replace their feet with something that could cope with ground-walking.

Zerox · #10 09-11-2006, 10:25 AM

Where'd you find that?
I thought they were a bit like that, too.
Unnatural things.

***Wil*** · #11 09-11-2006, 02:04 PM

Their origins as an arboreal species is established. That being the reasoning of their departed feet is fanon.

Bonedust · #12 09-11-2006, 03:33 PM

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They had evolved from tree-climbing creatures so they had to replace their feet with something that could cope with ground-walking.

So before the they replaced their feet they never walked much?

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That being the reasoning of their departed feet is fanon.

Do you mean the fans made that up?

***Wil*** · #13 09-11-2006, 06:35 PM

Yes, but more in the sense that the fans together have reasoned through logic that it is likely.

***Nate*** · #14 09-12-2006, 04:27 AM

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So before the they replaced their feet they never walked much?

I would say that they hardly ever walked around on the ground. I don't know if this is canon, fanon or just my own cogitation speaking but I imagine them living in huge forests with trees hundreds of metres tall and branches extending out just as far; whole communities living in each tree. That way they could spend their lives in the air and hardly ever have to come down.

Zerox · #15 09-12-2006, 12:53 PM

In an old thread I did of indutrialist species previous detailed bahviours, I though Vykkers used their claws to rip leaves up for digestion in the pot belly (as you can see) as well as their causing pain behaviour derived from the instinctive need to shred the leaves up to eat etc.
Sounds a bit silly, but it's what I came up with. Makes more sense now.
The three leg tripod structure would be most at home coiled around a branch.

Bonedust · #16 09-13-2006, 06:12 PM

Where do the interns come in this? (what relationship did they have before Vykkers labs was founded)
and how did the interns live before Vykkers labs was founded?

Zerox · #17 09-14-2006, 10:03 AM

Interns a very similar to Vykkers in biuld, whether related or convergent. I'd suspect maybe a similar lifestyle to what I stated before, if that's all that accurate, using long arms and fingers to grope for food.

Slaveless · #18 09-14-2006, 12:36 PM

Yes, Interns did in fact evolve from trees climbing animals, like Vykkers. Now with their relationship with Vykkers, I remember reading that there use to be a relationship with them, that the Interns use to be on the same position with Vykkers. But however, the Vykkers felt like they needed to be on the higher position, above Interns, so they practically enslaved them, by not paying them, but gave them headphones, music, and fashion. However, the Interns may have not came into the Industerial family, until Vykkers needed to have more nurses and guards.

magic9mushroom · #19 09-28-2006, 12:07 AM

My question evidently wasn't clear enough. It was intended to be about whether the Vykkers are an artificially created species, ie, that some species had at least one member that wanted to create a new species.

ZANGG · #20 10-07-2006, 10:24 PM

And the answers, since the Vykkers were originally natural creatures, is "maybe".

magic9mushroom · #21 10-08-2006, 08:52 PM

Stop spamming my thread.

Zerox · #22 10-09-2006, 09:39 AM

In what way is that spam?
Vykkers aren't artificially created. There's nothing TO create them, anyway, because Vykkers are the ones that got that technollogy and use it in the first place.
If they evolved, as has been said, they're not artificially created then, are they? Duh.

magic9mushroom · #23 10-09-2006, 03:41 PM

My hypothesis: Vykkers were smart and had a different sort of body, but then GMed their own species, making what they are now

Zerox · #24 10-10-2006, 10:13 AM

No, you can't genetically modify your own species, unles the entire race agreed to it.
I think they prefer their current body too much for that. If they have difficulty with focus or something, they use machinery in their eye sockets and stuff, remember?
The main way they've midified themselves is their feet, presumably each leg spits into two sections. Since this doesn't support them well on the ground, they've stitched their feet up to make a stub, which supports their weight much better.
Any modification is individual, via stitching etc.

Bullet Magnet · #25 10-10-2006, 02:11 PM

No, GM yourself, then breed asexually, as they do.

magic9mushroom · #26 10-10-2006, 03:40 PM

No, I meant that their current body might be the product of GM. It certainly seems to show signs of ID...Huge brain, manipulative appendages...This might be why they like it so much. They could have originally been less intelligent, but still got GM, and made themselves smarter. Any that didn't come along got outcompeted by their smarter cousins.

***Xavier*** · #27 10-11-2006, 02:03 AM

I see what you mean, they helped nature to make their own specie evolve faster and like they wanted it...

when you see how they look like it might be partially true

but that would go against the leg-cut theory

Zerox · #28 10-11-2006, 08:31 AM

Yes, it would.
Plus I on't see why'd they care. I think they'd be more concerned about themselves rather than their offsprings features.

Bullet Magnet · #29 10-11-2006, 12:52 PM

Unless genetic modification is what gave them the body parts to amputate.

***Nate*** · #30 10-11-2006, 07:11 PM

You can't do major genetic modification to yourself. You could only change limbs on offspring. About the most you can do to an adult is block off an existing gene from firing or introduce one that will produce an extra hormone.