Faith

[Primus inter pares]

Hello here I want to discuss faith (also included atheism and agnostiscism)
I am a christian but i don´t belive in the trinity dogma, but i am not a Jehovas Witness!!! or symphatise totally with them, i am more to the faith of www.truthortradition.com and www.geocities.com/athens/olympus/5257/ and one of those things in the watch tower i think are wrong, is that the 1000 year kingdom of Jesus Christ began in 1914.

But don´t attack each others faith!!!! we need respect for each others faith!!!, just look on the islamophobia and the attack on jewish people!!!!, I also maked this topic for creating respect for each others faith!!!.

Hope that this topic will be good:
Primus Inter Pares.

[Kimon]

A recent revelation I had about faith is that any religion involving spirituality or enlightenment or whatnot are all just different interpretations of the same thing. For example, if somebody "sees God" (Christian) in a person, that's the same as experiencing any other diety or sort of spiritual breakthrough.

I like these threads, but it won't end well. They never do.

By the way, I find these two statements ironic when juxtaposed:

I also maked this topic for creating respect for each others faith!!!

Some sort of uga buga African religion (voodoo with more)

Granted, nobody here is likely a witch doctor, but still, doesn't seem too respectful.

[AquaticAmbi]

Um.. any other type of Christian other than Catholicism is Protestant, and I don't really know why you put "My type of Christianity"... I'm not orthodox but I'm certainly not what you are. I guess I'll just have to choose the equally broad term of Protestant.

I've expressed my religious beliefs many, many times on the forums, so to make it brief: My Christian beliefs are strong but I show tolerance and open-mindedness to those of other beliefs. Huzzah.

[Havoc]

(Hey, who removed my post! )

I'm athiest...

[skillya_glowi]

My whole family is Orthodox Christian.

[Primus inter pares]

The uga buga thing was just maked for fun, i don´t hope it will make the same things like the Muhammed drawings.

Protestant include: Lutherism, Calvinism and Church of England (if you know some more just write it here on this topic).

I put my type of christianity on the poll, for seeing, if there is others that symphathise with my faith, on what i have written.

[skillya_glowi]

You posted this thread twice.

[used:)]

I voted Satanism.

[OANST]

I don't know what's out there. Maybe, one day I'll find out but so far I find most religions to be bizarre and unbelievable. I do not consider myself to be an agnostic although that is probably what I'm closest to. The only reason that I refuse to say I'm that is the fact that I refuse to say I'm anything. I don't join clubs or organizations or subscribe to anyones ideals. I just am. And that's good enough for me.

[used:)]

Well said, Oanst.

I think we should clsoe this thread and go to the other one. Mainly just becasue the "uga buga" could be considered offensive by some.

[Statikk HDM]

Atheism, everything else is untenable.

[OANST]

Atheism is untenable. You can't prove that god doesn't exist and anyone who claims they can is a fool.

[Mutual Friend]

I'm an existentialist. There is no up, no down, etc... I live a life of tedium and disappointment. And this is good.

[OANST]

But again, you like Madonna. If that doesn't create tedium and disappointment then I don't know what does. Just saying that one simple act could brighten your entire existence. BURN EVERYTHING MADONNA!

[Jacob]

"Mainly just becasue the "uga buga" could be considered offensive by some"

Then let them speak up.

I'm a Catholic. Yay for Catholicism and all their guilt-ridden emotions. Yay i say!

[Havoc]

Atheism is untenable. You can't prove that god doesn't exist and anyone who claims they can is a fool.

Every form of religion, pro or con, is untenable. Religious people can't prove he does exist, non religious people can't prove he doesn't. Simple as that.

[Patrick Vykkers]

Catholic. WTF at the devil worshippers voting.

[Mutual Friend]

Have respect for other people's faith, Patrick.

[used:)]

Oooooo, buuuuuuuuurn.

[Dusan]

I'm Orthodox Christian, but I do not belive that god exist, but also I can't prove that. I think that people "made up" faiths just because they couldn't explain some stuff in nature (lighting, rain, snow etc.) and it's much easier to say that there is a god who control all of that. Did we had anyting good from faith? Just a milion kiled people. But there is a good side of faith. People like to belive in someting. To think if they done someting good, god will do the same that to them...

I hope that you can understand what I have just typed up there

[Havoc]

I understand every letter of it and completely agree. Religion is almost like an excuse for some people to not face the real world, and not face real problems and puzzles they can not understand.
Having a god explains those things that our mind can not comprehend, such as the creation of life and the endlessness of the universe.

[Wil]

I consider myself an athiest, because I don't believe in a god. I believe in the possibility of some kind of ‘power’ that could vastly exceed humanity's, but I'd be unwilling to call it a god. I'm sure Stargate: SG-1 explains it best.

[Primus inter pares]

You posted this thread twice.

Yes i know it, you can see the explanation on the other faith topic without a poll.

Yes now i see it was wrong of me to do that uga buga thing, but i still want a faith topic with a poll, so maybe both faith topics could be closed, and sent to necrum, and then i will make a third, with the same text, but instead of "some sort of uga buga african religion (voodoo with more)", i will make it like this: "african religion including voodoo".

[Nate]

I'm Jewish but not a particularly good one. When I do jewish stuff, I go for the orthodox persuasion but I really only do it when I feel like it.

As for whether I believe in god, I'd say that at the moment I don't but that opinion changes fairly regularly.

[Dusan]

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maybe both faith topics could be closed

I do not see why. (maybe the seccond one, but not this one) This is a great topic. Well that "uga buga" thing is not good reason for closing the thread, and we have really good posts here (and i'm to lazy to type mine again)

[Havoc]

We have had bad experiences with religion related topics. It always ends in a major flamewar between religious and non religious people. Maybe this time will be diffrent, but I have no reason to suspect it will be.

[Dusan]

well, till then this topic should be open

[Rubber_Soul]

"I'm a scientologist, cause everyone knows we're all immortal, spiritual beings."

God, my chest hurts..

[SeaRex]

Every form of religion, pro or con, is untenable. Religious people can't prove he does exist, non religious people can't prove he doesn't. Simple as that.

You and OANST are basically defining agnosticism, so in a way, you could say that agnosticism is a tenable position.

I'm a deist, and apparently have been for a very long time, even before I first learned about the tenets of deism. The philosophy of deism doesn't fit my beliefs perfectly, but it certainly suits me better than any of the warring sects of Christianity.

I... guess that classifies as "My type of Christianity." (Amber, I think Primus means your own "personal" Christian beliefs, not necessarily the ones that he believes.)

[Havoc]

I don't even know what that term means. Please explain! And whats deist, actualy?