It's sad, really.

LEEROYJENKINS · #1 09-23-2005, 02:50 PM

That Stranger didn't get the respect from the overall gaming populace that it deserved. I guess in a world of Halo 2's and GTA's, there's no reoom for innovation and originality in storytelling anymore. Oh, well, where ever Oddworld Inhabitants goes in the future, I'm sure they'll deliver grade A every time.

Oddkid · #2 09-23-2005, 04:06 PM

I think the game would have gotten some more recognition if it were put on the PS2 and not be an X-box exclusive >>

LEEROYJENKINS · #3 09-23-2005, 04:29 PM

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I think the game would have gotten some more recognition if it were put on the PS2 and not be an X-box exclusive >>

Well, it would have gotten more recognition (obviously) if it were on more platforms. But two things make me not think that it would be the only reason:
1) The Xbox is nearly as popular as the PS2 with its Halo franchises and other games.
2) The PS2 can't handle nearly as much ast he Xbox can, and the PS2 version would be either muddled with framerate issues and long load times, horrible graphics compared to its Xbox brother, or a mix of both.

***Xavier*** · #4 09-24-2005, 02:04 AM

The main problem was EA not promoting the game because it was Xbox Xclusive...
It's a long story actually

Oddkid · #5 09-24-2005, 10:43 AM

Maybe people where starting to forget about Oddworld anyway....?

LEEROYJENKINS · #6 09-24-2005, 11:50 AM

Well, I can't imagine why the new generation wouldn't appreciate all that OI has done for the industry. They tried to breathe originality into the otherwise lifeless world of spinoffs and ripoffs.

I desparately hope Hand of Odd is made.

***Xavier*** · #7 09-24-2005, 11:50 AM

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Maybe people where starting to forget about Oddworld anyway....?

I don't think so...
You'd be amazed by the amount of Oddworld fans into the press comunity

LEEROYJENKINS · #8 09-24-2005, 11:53 AM

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I don't think so...
You'd be amazed by the amount of Oddworld fans into the press comunity

You don't think so about what??? I'm confused >.<

***Xavier*** · #9 09-24-2005, 12:00 PM

sorry, I edited my post for more clarity

Cullen Heath · #10 10-23-2005, 02:37 PM

leeroyjenkins is right ,if it were on the ps2 the graphics would be crummy but ,about a month ago I was on this really cool web site www.oddworld.au.com (this is abebabe's site) and I went to downloads and there were little videos to download. I downloaded slig toss 1 and slig toss 2 and they were really cool. when Abe would start to climb down a latter he would jump onto it or the sligs even smoke cigarets and Abe goes back to the old jump (he does'nt curl into a ball)but these videos would have been how you would play if munch's oddysee were for ps2. it looked pretty cool you guys should cheak it out on www.oddworld.au.com

Kimon · #11 10-23-2005, 05:22 PM

Those were gameplay visulazations for Munch's Oddysey in general. If OWI had more time and money to make MO, then that's what it would've looked and played similar to, whether it was going to be on the PS2 or not.

Cullen Heath · #12 10-23-2005, 05:29 PM

Oh i thought that was if it was on the ps2. so if they had more time and money it would have been like that.would it have been titled a different name or still munch's oddysee

nicksmith41 · #13 10-23-2005, 07:42 PM

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The main problem was EA not promoting the game because it was Xbox Xclusive...
It's a long story actually

long story?? no not really, EA is just a bunch of terrible people, they killed Westwood and now they Killed Oddworld, and for people who say oddwolrd is still alive well on one of thier artsists pages he said it disbanded thats why he isnt working there anymore

lol and well Xavier is right there is a story to EA's evil ways of killed oddworld and lorne lanning's (my hero's) dreams of a clever and innovative story telling game.

Cullen Heath · #14 10-23-2005, 09:01 PM

I agree EA sucks. when stranger's wrath came out I was so exited but when I beat it and there was no abe to be found I was pissed. ITS JUST NOT ODD ENOUGH WITHOUT ABE.Its an oddworld game so I respect it and like it, just not as much as the first 5 games.(all containing abe)

***Nate*** · #15 10-23-2005, 09:48 PM

That's nothing to do with EA. It was Lorne's decision long before OWI had signed up to EA. He wanted to take a break from the quintology until the technology had caught up with his vision. Also he wanted to avoid negative associations with Munch's Oddysee which wasn't as good has he had hoped.

Cullen Heath · #16 10-24-2005, 06:31 AM

NO WAY its totally EA's fault.have you ever played any other EA games,cause they suck.

OANST · #17 10-24-2005, 06:49 AM

EA did screw OI. That's a given. But that doesn't mean that they are truly to blame for their game developement shutting down. It really began because Lorne Lanning was content with releasing a substandard game. The decision to release MO at about 1/10th of what was promised pissed off a lot of gamers and lost OI a lot of fans.

Volsung · #18 10-24-2005, 07:12 AM

It was in OWI's contract with xbox that the game (MO) would release at the same time as the system, so they got screwed for time after making the switch from the PS2. The mistake was to agree to release the game on such serious time constraints, but obviously Lorne thought they could do it. He was upset about MO, but he released it because he had to, via his contract with microsoft.

OANST · #19 10-24-2005, 07:29 AM

Games are delayed all the time.

***Nate*** · #20 10-24-2005, 08:27 AM

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EA did screw OI. That's a given. But that doesn't mean that they are truly to blame for their game developement shutting down. It really began because Lorne Lanning was content with releasing a substandard game. The decision to release MO at about 1/10th of what was promised pissed off a lot of gamers and lost OI a lot of fans.

I was talking about Stranger (and the absence of Abe), which was not at all a substandard game (not perfect, but very good).

As Volsung says, the release date for MO was set in concrete by Microsoft. Whilst games are delayed often, this one couldn't be because it was scheduled for the Xbox launch. It was one of the big four: Halo, DOA3, Project Gotham Racing and Munch. Admittedly it was the runt of the litter, but Lorne has said repeatedly how painful it was for him to release Munch prematurely

Cullen Heath · #21 10-24-2005, 07:48 PM

Wait! Why didnt Lorne want to release Munch's Oddysee?It was an EXALLENT game.

***Nate*** · #22 10-24-2005, 08:14 PM

But it could have been better, if he had the time to make it right.

Search the forums to find out how it could have been.

Cullen Heath · #23 10-24-2005, 08:42 PM

so oddworld inhabitants only released a tenth of what they promised in munch's oddysee?Man....Its great how it is, imagine how sweet it would be if they comleted the other 90 percent.

odd chick · #24 10-24-2005, 09:42 PM

Yes, Munch could have been brilliant and spectacular if it had been released with the complete story and such. Although I admit that it's a great game, it would've been flawless (possibly) if Lorne didn't take that chance with Microsoft.

Scrab-Meat · #25 10-25-2005, 05:27 AM

Well whats done is done and Oddworld died in the process which sucks bad ass!

If I was Lorne I would revisit the quintology by starting off at MO and redoing MO to make it into the game he wanted and just wipe the slate clean and start all over again. Kind of like what Lucas did with the Star Wars Special Edition. But this time become his own publisher. I know that it would cost a lot of money to publish himself but like with everything, business is an investment and think of how popular Oddworld could become if nothing was taken out of Munch. Sure theres a lot of money invested in making an awesome game but in return he would probably get twice as much or maybe ten times as much money back after release. I dunno about you but I think it would be the most talked about game since Abe if Munch was like what it was suppose to be.

Cullen Heath · #26 10-25-2005, 06:16 AM

so if Munch's oddysee would have been on the ps2 you think lorne could have stuck with his agreements?what was there supposed to be in munch's oddysee(can you give me a few examples)

Munch's Master · #27 10-25-2005, 06:41 AM

Well, from what I heard in the completed MO Mucnh was supposed to be able to transform into this big guy, nicknamed 'Roid' who could kick ass against industrialists, as in the original storyline Munch had been tested on steroids. I'm pretty sure that Sam the Mudokon Queen was supposed to appear as well, and there were probably some other things, but I'd need to check the archives to find out. I'll get back to you about this. PS, a litttle pointless fact is that spooceshrubs were orginally pink and called humshrubs.
EDIT: There was also going to be a big aquatic serpent thing called a Sea Rex (Hence Luke's screenname) but that got pulled. Still looking for more info. Also, I forget, did the Spooce Cannon (Gun that turned industrial creatures into their victims) ever appear in MO (So long since I've played it that I've forgotten).

Cullen Heath · #28 10-25-2005, 06:55 AM

yeah i saw yellow shrubs in an old oddworld movie and was like what the hell is that.
sounds pretty cool the big guy,the big munch.yep a while back i was on google and saw a HUGE gabbit. was that seroid munch?that would also be great to see what sam looks like.(if you have a picture can you post it)
well overall sounds great.

Munch's Master · #29 10-25-2005, 07:05 AM

I saw a Sam picture on Depths of Oddworld but the site ended. I'll search around for a pic. And yeah the Big Munch will have been Roid.

***Xavier*** · #30 10-25-2005, 09:22 AM

I recommend TOGG, it's a great site for oddworld pictures:
http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/togg...&page=CAMO0058