Let's all move to... South Carolina?

Joe the Intern · #1 08-13-2004, 08:24 AM

http://christianexodus.org/

I saw one of these people on the news today. They want to emigrate thousands of Christians to the state of South Carolina and make it independent from the United States so that they can have their own "moral" Christian government. You have to read the site to really believe it.

Discussion time!

Volsung · #2 08-13-2004, 08:31 AM

Having been born and raised in South Carolina, I can assure you that no such invasion will take place. We've got Bob Jones, yes, but they aren't exactly fond of any denomination other than southern baptist. Not surprisingly, the SC has just as many heathens as anywhere else. It's just that our jerks are surprisingly loud.

Jacob · #3 08-13-2004, 09:56 AM

Let them do it. Then just tell all those Muslim and Paki hijinkers that the Christians are holding captive and torturing Iraqi prisoners...then, step back and watch the merrymaking commence. Wheee...and so on and so forth.

***Wil*** · #4 08-13-2004, 12:38 PM

OMG! Schools continue to teach the discredited theory of evolution? You American monsters! Seriously, this in itself is a massive discussion, and one that I suppose I shouldn't bring up. But it still irritates me that they use the term "discredited" when a more accurate expression would be "doesn't account scientifically for all the evidence."

And what's with homosexuality being called sodomy? These people are upset that Free Speech is being impounded (incidentally, while trying to say people are not allowed to be themselves), and then go and spoil their point by getting words integral to their arguement wrong.

But Jacob has (somewhere in his glee) a point. If these people want to go off and desicrate humanity, let them do it all together, to themselves. We don't need their kind "diluting" the population.

Facsimile · #5 08-14-2004, 11:35 PM

I do not know my American geography, so tell me, is South Carolina easily cut off and pushed out to the ocean away from the rest of the country?

***Wil*** · #6 08-15-2004, 11:49 AM

It's on the east coast, so bonus points for that. It's not on a sticky outy bit, though, so one has to wonder. It's north of Georgia and Florida.

Khanzumer · #7 08-15-2004, 11:59 AM

Some of you know I'm a pretty devoted Christian. But hopefully you all also know my opinion that most "christians" are ignorant and confused. This is ridiculous. Plus, it isn't Biblical. The Bible teaches Christians to go out into the world and teach people. Not hide in some secluded area and pretend that Christians are perfect people and that the world is the Devil.

Jacob · #8 08-15-2004, 12:41 PM

'Not hide in some secluded area and pretend that Christians are perfect people and that the world is the Devil.'

Now, now, if they want to rid society of their incessant ramblings and idiocy by moving somewhere...away, let them. Don't be putting sensible ideas into their heads, who do you think you are, eh? God?

***Cloverfield*** · #9 08-16-2004, 01:39 AM

This is kind of on another tangent, but still related ... but there is a few US states that I notice don't have any major sporting teams and it is common for rock bands to not play concerts there [I don't know which ones off hand]. Someone told me once that there is a "bible belt" in the US which is some states that are really religious. Is this related to those states that I mentioned.

[directed to someone in the US I guess]

Abe Babe...

ClaireBear · #10 08-16-2004, 02:26 AM

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This is kind of on another tangent, but still related ... but there is a few US states that I notice don't have any major sporting teams and it is common for rock bands to not play concerts there [I don't know which ones off hand]. Someone told me once that there is a "bible belt" in the US which is some states that are really religious. Is this related to those states that I mentioned.

[directed to someone in the US I guess]

Abe Babe...

I'm not American but I have always assumed that the "Bible Belt" is indeed as it says... a row of states crossing the continent of America across the area known as the South...

These states are extremely Christian and fundementalist.... certain literature, music and scientific theories are banned due to the beliefs held to be "gospel" (no pun intended)

Thats what I've always thought... but it would be nice to get someone from the US to confirm!

Khanzumer · #11 08-16-2004, 07:19 AM

I think the "Bible Belt" as you put it is just an exageration of the fact that most southern states are conservative. Then again, I live near Seattle, WA which is one of the liberal cities in the US so I wouldn't really know. Sure some states are more conservative than others, but most places have a pretty wide mix of people and opinions. I know that some individual schools, towns or counties ban music, books, etc... but not whole states.

Joe the Intern · #12 08-16-2004, 08:36 AM

Haha... No, whole states don't ban music or literature, and definitely no scientific theories. I don't know of any state that does. We may have problems but we's not that ****ed-up.

Statikk HDM · #13 08-16-2004, 09:29 AM

At the end of the world, these "religious" people will be thrown into a burning pit where they can only have contact with people who either share their ideals or the antithesis of them. Trust Me. It's in the 4th chapter of the 20th Book of Statikk, verse 69.

***Nate*** · #14 08-16-2004, 12:42 PM

At the Atlanta Olympics the athletes had to be told not to use contraceptives or sex toys as they were illegal in Georgia.

ClaireBear · #15 08-16-2004, 09:25 PM

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Haha... No, whole states don't ban music or literature, and definitely no scientific theories. I don't know of any state that does. We may have problems but we's not that ****ed-up.

SCIENTIFIC THEORY: Darwinism!

But then if you live in one of those states you won't know about it!!!!!

Shell Man · #16 08-16-2004, 11:14 PM

I say let them. I have no problem with really devout people closing themselves off from the rest of the world. Maybe the rest of us will be able to move on without all the quarreling over theological beliefs and morality, and accomplish some more things.

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Preaching Christianity will soon be outlawed as "hate speech"

Yes, because the phrase "God hates queers" is soooooo misunderstood.

***Wil*** · #17 08-17-2004, 01:47 AM

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At the Atlanta Olympics the athletes had to be told not to use contraceptives or sex toys as they were illegal in Georgia.

My God, that's barbaric! Sex toys I can understand, but contraceptives? That pretty much brings the opportunity for sex for any sane, sensible and life-caring person to zero.

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I say let them.

I suppose the only arguement against it is that the reasonable people living in South Carolina would either have to be swamped by these people or move from their homes.

Lucipher · #18 08-17-2004, 06:40 AM

The god people moved to one area? GREAT! I can take them all out with one push of this red button here.

Jacob · #19 08-17-2004, 07:05 AM

'GREAT! I can take them all out with one push of this red button here.'

No, that's your mothers G-spot, pushing that would cause her to feel pleasure she's never felt since having you.

'Yes, because the phrase "God hates queers" is soooooo misunderstood.'

It's more like "Our Lord Jesus Christ despises the sin that Sodomites pleasure themselves with".

If you go onto the forum and read some of the things they say it's really funny, such as one mother worried because her teenager has a boyfriend. Heee!!

I can't join the forum though, which is rrrreally poo.

Statikk HDM · #20 08-17-2004, 07:09 AM

If these "religious" fanatics controlled the world it would be like living in a never-ending showing of Equilibrium. These people use religion as a tool and wield it for power. Well, I say anybody who uses anything religious for political gain owes taxes. You wanna get into to the carney that is Washington Ave.? Well, you gotta buy your ticket, bitch!

Lucipher · #21 08-17-2004, 07:19 AM

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'GREAT! I can take them all out with one push of this red button here.'

No, that's your mothers G-spot, pushing that would cause her to feel pleasure she's never felt since having you.

'Yes, because the phrase "God hates queers" is soooooo misunderstood.'

It's more like "Our Lord Jesus Christ despises the sin that Sodomites pleasure themselves with".

If you go onto the forum and read some of the things they say it's really funny, such as one mother worried because her teenager has a boyfriend. Heee!!

I can't join the forum though, which is rrrreally poo.

Okay that comment was just uncalled for Jacob.

Volsung · #22 08-17-2004, 09:24 AM

I'm just not sure that South Carolina is the best place for a fundamentalist migration. It is part of the "bible belt" as it were, but hardly secluded. It seems that the major reason for choosing it is based on the fact that it was the first to seceed during the civil war. But all those people are dead now, so it might be silly to try.

By the by, the last time I was in georgia (2 years ago) sex toys, contraceptives, and indeed, porn stores were all still alive and well. But that was just in Athens and Atlanta. Maybe its different elsewhere.

oddguy · #23 08-17-2004, 10:06 AM

Hmmm, I just now looked at this thread. The title wasn't very exciting I guess.

Really though, I hate calling myself a Christian if people associate me with idiots. People like that just make me cringe.

Reminds me of "The Village" in a way. If you've seen it...ya know what I mean.

-oddguy

***Nate*** · #24 08-17-2004, 12:56 PM

I read a really interesting article last week about this devout christian woman who sells sex toys in texas.

Anyone in Melb or Syd read that in the Good Weekend last week?

Joe the Intern · #25 08-17-2004, 02:25 PM

ClaireBear, I told you it's not banned. It's taught in every public school. I thought I just told you that...

ClaireBear · #26 08-17-2004, 09:31 PM

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ClaireBear, I told you it's not banned. It's taught in every public school. I thought I just told you that...

In South Carolina yeah.. but in other states? Are you sure? And if not states what about in certain towns/cities and non-public schools... private schools and denominational schools...

The very fact that some Bible belters even see fit to question evolution in favour of a theory put forward in a load of allegories written in the middle ages to simply control the masses makes me put my "These people are stupid" X marks the spot over the entirity of the southern states!

Shell Man · #27 08-17-2004, 10:08 PM

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discredited theory of evolution

Does the bible explain why some whales and snakes have leg bones inside their bodies, and why marine mammals have fingerbones in their flippers? I don't see how you can ban something that could be the one way of explaining the origins of species.

***Wil*** · #28 08-18-2004, 02:21 AM

The theory of evolution is only the basic element of explaining the origins of the species. Additional studies have found that evolution has often happened in leaps and bounds followed by long sustained periods, followed by a period of accelerating levels of extinction, often culminated in a mass extinction. Undoubtedly there's a link between the environmental factors that caused the extinctions and the need for species to adapt, but that's not the whole story. If only I'd have actually watched that documentary, my words would have more force to them.

Religious people, too, have plenty to argue against the theory of evolution. All I remember is Khanz's arguement that when designing creatures, he prefered a set basis, hence the similarities between species. It can't be proved, I know, but then neither can God in the first place.

Jacob · #29 08-18-2004, 05:17 AM

I'm more concerned about the children of the Holier-than-thou. Because 99.9% of the time, the parents force their children to follow their Religion. Which is bad, if not damaging.

Khanzumer · #30 08-18-2004, 06:53 AM

Here's my breif creationist response to what has been said about evolution.

When God created the Earth, He created it perfect. Meaning the first animals, plants and even Adam and Eve, where perfect specimens containing all the genetic traits for their species. Over time, these species have speciated and become many different species. The difference between this and evolution is that evolution requires all species in the world to have evolved from one tiny simple organic cell that created itslelf. In creationism, the animals "devolve" meaning they split apart into different species by losing uneccessary traits. An example would be the first "super cat" spreading out. Over time, the jungle cats lose traits they don't need in favor of traits that they already have that are more favorable. Cats in the mountains would keep other traits and lose different ones.

This makes much more sense to me than the evolutionary theory from a scientific standpoint becuase there has NEVER been a recorded case of an organism developing traits that weren't already somewhere in the gene pool.