Astronauts VS Cavemen

[Lucipher]

Who would win in a fight between astronauts and cavemen? The astronauts can't have guns before anyone asks.

[Hobo]

A thread like this was just closed. Allow me to sit back and laugh as I wait for Majic or DI to destroy you.

[Lucipher]

Well mods, this thread was not intended to be spam, it is supposed to explain that even with advanced technology are we really superior to primitive creatures? And you could at least have voted for something you tight bugger!

[DeBulletDodger]

I think this was well phrased and a good point and where did I hear this somewhere before.

In some cases technology counts for nothing showing that we can only over come our own primitiveness in our minds.

[Bionic]

Stupid question.. but probably a caveman. Just plain brute force.

[Nath]

Just like what Bionic said, cavemen just use brute force. I doubt they actually care about pain, where as an astranaut would be like " please don't hurt me with that big club".

[Esus]

Cavemen did not have just brute force, they were humans who lived in caves. They hunter with spears and slings, and sometimes fought each other.
Even though the Astronaughts suit would be cumbersome and would slow him down, his suit could probably protect him from a slings rock and may even turn away the flint tipped spears. Anywho, the astronaut would most certainly win - he has a gun.

The only way the caveman could win was to smash the astronauts head through the helmet whilst the astronaut was sleeping. However, this would be unlikley because cavemen, like us, have consciences and morals.

The cavemans point of action would be to either run away through fear of the strange being or to attack by throwing a spear or rock in a sling. The caveman would have a very slow rate of fire. He wears only leather and fur if in the winter. In a hot summer he would possibly wear nothing or only a loincloth type dresswear - which would serve as no protection from the incredibly fast bullets.

The caveman would not fear the gun so would not try to avoid the bullets. The caveman would probably also not be hostile when sighting the astronaut. Rather, he would be curious, and the astronaut would kill him with ease.

[DeBulletDodger]

Lucipher specifically said they have no gun's

[oddguy]

Cavemen have primal instinct to their surroundings and know the land well. If this fight was to take place in the wilderness, caveman would be victorious.

Where is the fight taking place?

-oddguy

[Wil]

The astronaut could know martial arts. Increased technology brings about increased communication and hence movement of ideas, such as Eastern fighting techniques.

[Hobo]

Bah. Cavemen spent their whole life fighting. And humans have become more peaceful nowadays due to both technological advances and social advances. Thank God.

[Fez]

The Monkey........

[Joshy]

The astronaut since they will be fighting in space and without space suit or training the cave men would die.

[Statikk HDM]

I say the astronaut because he can do everything the caveman can plus things he can't. Don't go all brute strength argument on me because astronauts are no pansys. They can't afford to be spineless weaklings because if the screw up in the tiniest way they're dead, the crew is toast, and a billion dollar piece of equipment goes up in flames. Also, if the caveman is just fighting with caveman stuff the astronaut can use advanced weapons with super alloys and stuff. Say the caveman does go after him with the club, big deal. It'll take a while before even the best wooden club goes through a solid gold helmet. Meanwhile, the astronaut whoops the caveman's arse with a NASA Brand(tm) Titanium Mace. Oh, you have a sharp piece of hickory? Say hello to the Stihl Caveman Splatterer.

[oddguy]

I thought the fight was man to man with no weapons. Also, nobody will tell me where this fight is taking place. That is a big factor.

-=[oddguy

[paramiteabe]

I am going for the cave man for a number of reasons.

1. The underdogs always make for a surpriseing come behind win.

2. Never underestemate the power of a primative being. This type of scenerio has been addressed in Star Wars Return of the Jedi. You had the advance technology of the galactic Empire go up against the primative small fury Ewolks of the Forest Moon of Endor. Little did the Empire know that such a small innocient and pramative race would destroy them and proove to be an awesome force in the end.

3. The cave man in a space scenerio would simply observe the rituals of the preditor called the astronaunt and by chance he would sort of climb in a suit by acceident because he doesn't understand how to work anything he just climbs into it. Drifts out and sees the Astronaut and pretty much with brute force rips the Astronaunts suit befor the Astronaunt has a chance to fire.

If its in a ship the cave man is moveing around like a monkey swinging and jumping everywhere. And once again by chance the lazor will miss him he would then attack from behind.

In the forest well now the Astronaut is on his turf. I don't care how advance your technology is the primative will always find a way to destroy it in the most sympleist of ways.

The only thing you need to destroy the most advance technolgy in the Universe is nature and its wounderful things like trees, rocks, water etc etc. Never underestemate the primative.

[oddguy]

Wow! I guess anything can be solved by Star Wars! Case Closed!

I do think the fighting style of a Caveman would be quite unpredictable, and the Astronaut would have a tough time taking him down.

-=[oddguy

[Esus]

Wtf, why the hell does everything think Cavemen were blod-thirsty animals? Why does everything think they are stronger than we are? Since when did they have more muscles?
In a one v one, the Astronaut would still win without a weapon. He has had lots of training and has to be very fit to go into space. The caveman could be a runt or really old or really fat.
The caveman does not know any fighting techniques (without weapons) and would merely use fists and hands to claw and punch. The astronaut will have learnt many fighting techniques and would easily kill him.

The underdogs always make for a surpriseing come behind win.

No they don't.

The cave man in a space scenerio would simply observe the rituals of the preditor called the astronaunt and by chance he would sort of climb in a suit by acceident because he doesn't understand how to work anything he just climbs into it. Drifts out and sees the Astronaut and pretty much with brute force rips the Astronaunts suit befor the Astronaunt has a chance to fire.

In space, there are no spare spacesuits floating around.

If its in a ship the cave man is moveing around like a monkey swinging and jumping everywhere.

puh-lease. The caveman is not a flamin' monkey. he is a human who lives in a cave. He will walk like normal - the astornaut would kill him.

In the forest well now the Astronaut is on his turf. I don't care how advance your technology is the primative will always find a way to destroy it in the most sympleist of ways.

Yeah, cus noawadays we don't have forests, or know what a forest terrain is /sarcasm
Who says its the cavemans forest where he lived? The astornaut would also be a better climber of trees, with all that training and all.

The only thing you need to destroy the most advance technolgy in the Universe is nature and its wounderful things like trees, rocks, water etc etc.

yes, you can destroy technology with nature. But technology kills nature muuuuch faster.

Never underestemate the primative.

No, but at least be a realist...

[oddguy]

Present day man knows ways to kill, whereas primitive man would just swing around in rage.

It's tough to say who would win. I'd be freaked out if this primitive beast was lunging at me, but I'd probably kick him in the loincloth.

Although, we don't know how much cavemen would resist pain. Nowadays people are somewhat wimps when it comes to pain. How would caveman react to a swift kick in the pants? Would he fall down and cry, or would the pain enrage him even more?

-oddguy

[Hobo]

Present day man knows ways to kill, whereas primitive man would just swing around in rage.

Wrong. Present day man is afraid of killing. Someone pisses you off at school. What do you do? Swear and argue(Well most people would). What would caveman do? Rip their head off.

Caveman is not afraid of death, due to disease and wild animals, it's a much bigger part of life than it is today.

[Esus]

What would caveman do? Rip their head off.

wrooooong. Caveman had morales and were afraid of killing - much like we were. For killing humans they were often sentanced to death of shunned from their tribe/caves.

What do you do? Swear and argue

And thats what a caveman would do.

Caveman is not afraid of death

of course he is. Diseases weren't such a big problem, because they didn't have all the imported things we have now, but they still feared death.
They were human, y'know.
They knew how to take care of themselves in the wild with animals. i.e. carrying weapons. But they still feared dying and their doctor-status people often had a lot of work to do.

I think some people are substituting cavemen for insane gorillas

[dripik]

paramiteabe, I agree with you. The Ewoks my be primitive, but they fought really good against the Imperials. They used traps and stoped those AT-STs (walkers) easily. But I didn't like one thing there. If an Ewok died, it was showed for minutes, but if an Imperial died...

...Uhm, back to the Cavemen vs Astronauts again. Sorry.

Well, I can only say that there were a lot more cavemen in the past than astronauts in the present. The astronauts would be out-numbered.

[Statikk HDM]

Screw the ewoks and the caveman. Astronauts are easily as tough as the toughest caveman. Plus, hardly anyone here is taking into account the Astronaut's superior intellect. Better planning=victory. Keep in mind that this is a battle, probably out in the open in the wilderness, not a mugging.

[paramiteabe]

Ok look at another example to proove my point is right on a primative being like a cave man winning. Oddworld is a great example. You have the primative Mudokons overthrowing advance cultures like the Magog.

So what the Astronaut maybe far more superier but that means shit in a situation like this, And the underdogs always make a come behind win that is a true fact. The cave man will win because he will damage the technology by smashing it. He has hunting skills which makes him stealthy when it comes to attacking.

[Statikk HDM]

Dude, you just don't get it. Brute force will not work against the astronaut. You seem to think that a few good smacks against 24k gold is going to do something. It isn't. It will not do dick. Armor+Superior Weaponry+Better intellect=a caveman can-kicking.

[paramiteabe]

Oh sure what ever when the cave man rips out the wires and cables or jumps on top of him and pretty much turns the suit into junk then tell me that.

And I forgot to mention that the Cave Man won't just have his club he would use his enviorment around him. So still the cave man will win your wrong!

[oddguy]

Strip each combatant down to just their being. No weapons...no suits. Just two fighters in a 100x100 white room that is completely empty with no way in or out.

Now tell me who would win. This jungle and space stuff is getting...

-oddguy

[Hobo]

*changes mind*

Spaceman, as the training programme for space flights is very tough, and so the spaceman would be muscle bound, and have the intelligence.

Yes.

[Esus]

precisely.
I disproved all your points Pa, and then you stated the exact same ones... AGAIN!

Edit: Well, I wouldn't say I disproved em as such, but you just state the same stuff again and don't even try to argue against what I say!
Incredibly frustrating.

[Fez]

The only thing you need to destroy the most advance technolgy in the Universe is nature and its wounderful things like trees, rocks, water etc etc.

Ahahahahahahhahhaha! Oh, PA, you hippy you.....