Minecraft - OWF server

[Varrok]

Last night resulted in not one, but two attempts at building a house scuppered by a number of people.

As a result I'm going to ruin something that you love.

Abe HD Changelist:

• Abe HD is now a dating sim
• Glukkens now have 4 arms and heads shaped like sunflowers
• Abe has been replaced with a pluky sentient toaster
• the whole game takes places in a small boy's cupboard
• the boy is called Ian
• The entire game will consist of quicktime events
• Missing a single event will kill you
• you only get one life EVER
• If you lost your one life you have to purchase another with real world money
• I hate you all
• why is there a glass cross in here?
• so many melons
• Chanting has now been replaced with dancing
• the dancing is lame

Ruin? It's better than ever now! Also, sorry to hear about your house(s), all I got to say is... it's wasn't me. (I didn't really play the game for days)

[T-nex]

Just some small teasers..



Find 5.... abnomalities?




Glitch's new and improved house, which ended up not being so improved anymore:





Also... the scariest thing happened yesterday.
I was walking back to my the mountain house, and came across a very bad omen:


I don't know what it means or if someone just made that on purpose(though ice tends to change frequently, so I dunno), but it may mean something big in the future O_O DUHN DUHN DUHN

[DarkHoodness]

@Glitcher: Sounds like some interesting changes you've got lined up for us. :P I look forward to the results - And the reaction to them. Heh.

Anyway you could've simply removed all the paintings and swapped the melons back with stone. I just did that for you in about 2 or 3 minutes.

[Glitch]

@Glitcher: Sounds like some interesting changes you've got lined up for us. :P I look forward to the results - And the reaction to them. Heh.

Anyway you could've simply removed all the paintings and swapped the melons back with stone. I just did that for you in about 2 or 3 minutes.

That's because you're a nice person.

[Havoc]

Last night resulted in not one, but two attempts at building a house scuppered by a number of people.

As a result I'm going to ruin something that you love.

Abe HD Changelist:

• Abe HD is now a dating sim
• Glukkens now have 4 arms and heads shaped like sunflowers
• Abe has been replaced with a pluky sentient toaster
• the whole game takes places in a small boy's cupboard
• the boy is called Ian
• The entire game will consist of quicktime events
• Missing a single event will kill you
• you only get one life EVER
• If you lost your one life you have to purchase another with real world money
• I hate you all
• why is there a glass cross in here?
• so many melons
• Chanting has now been replaced with dancing
• the dancing is lame

[Varrok]

I have no idea why

[T-nex]

Is that.... a sunflower-man?

[Wings of Fire]

Tell me more about this Oddworld dating game.

[Varrok]

I'm guessing you'll have to hit at least 50 of 99 mudokens to get a good ending...

...instant GOTY.

[Splat]

MudokOn. If my rep power wasn't so great I'd negrep everyone who can't spell the name of the species that stars in the game this forum exists for.

Saying it was a dating sim is the wrong way to upset people here.
All you're doing is punishing the guy who wasn't there, even more than he was punished by not being there! (Aka. me)
Actually I couldn't sleep on Friday night 'cus of thinking in blocks, so I decided to have a day off the game. Had to happen when all the excitement was occurring...

[Havoc]

Well... it was probably for the best you weren't there... We had a minor accident...

[Manco]

Tell me more about this Oddworld dating game.

“I-it’s not like I want to go through your bird portal...”

Also Shrykull has golden hair which stands on end.

[MeechMunchie]

Good luck making a toaster into a romantic lead.

[Varrok]

MudokOn. If my rep power wasn't so great I'd negrep everyone who can't spell the name of the species that stars in the game this forum exists for.

I did that on purpose because Glitch called Glukkons Glukkens, but whatever

[Glitch]

I was attempting to appear aloof and disinterested in the franchise, hence spelling Glukkon wrong.

[Wil]

Doesn't take much.

[Glitch]

Act-ually

[Wil]

We've been trying to grab music discs this evening - getting skellies to kill creepers is simple on paper but difficult in practice. You need to prepare the creeper by getting it within one arrow's damage of death (three hits with an iron sword is sufficient), else you risk the creeper retaliating at the skeleton with the familiar suicidal explosion.

Easiest way to do this is with two-meter-deep holes that you can get both skelly and creeper trapped in - obviously injuring the creeper before introducing the two. Unfortunately, on top of the expected mis-timings and arrow hits, you also have to contend with zombies and spiders trying to get a slice of you. And if there's more than one skelly or creeper at once, things can get confusing.

We've been having a blast (well, quite a few) on the south side of the cathedral, but the amount of dirt it takes to patch the creeper holes is rapidly eating into my storage. I think I'd like to construct an obsidian record farm somewhere.

We started swapping discs to build up our personal collections. I propose a noticeboard of duplicate discs we'd be willing to swap, positioned either near the disc farm, or in a convenient location near the spawn area of Ma'Spa. I'd also like to get a public music booth set up with its own independent library of discs.

[Havoc]

First part of the mess we made last night. All in good fun though and we helped build a proper house later on .



And here's the worst idea ever.

[Nate]

Abe HD Changelist:

• Abe HD is now a dating sim
• Glukkens now have 4 arms and heads shaped like sunflowers
• Abe has been replaced with a pluky sentient toaster
• the whole game takes places in a small boy's cupboard
• the boy is called Ian
• The entire game will consist of quicktime events
• Missing a single event will kill you
• you only get one life EVER
• If you lost your one life you have to purchase another with real world money
• I hate you all
• why is there a glass cross in here?
• so many melons
• Chanting has now been replaced with dancing
• the dancing is lame

I challenge you to put your Flash skills to work and build that game!

[Splat]

Respect other people's creations.

Hey, would you believe it seems I misunderstood that one? I'll definitely make sure I get it right next time I'm passing your house and decide to spawn a dozen creepers, Havoc.

[dripik]

They rebuilt the damage that was done to your creations, and they tried to apologize, from what I know. From the video, it is clear that this whole thing was not aimed to grief you and your creations - you'll see how pretty much everything was in danger around the area where the dragon spawned, including Wil's cathedral.

The whole spawning-creatures thing obviously got out of hand recently, to be sure. But I don't believe it was anyone's intention to cause actual harm to anyone's creative work with it. Mere curiousity, a taste for randomness and a tiny bit of liking towards non-directed disaster is the cause here. Let things clear up, let people explain themselves and then we can draw conclusions, but not before that.

[DarkHoodness]

EDIT: Unofficial guidelines that people seem to agree with - They aren't entirely set in stone but please bear them in mind. Happy Minecrafting!

Of course that doesn't make it okay to grief anyone's structures, even by accident or when messing about - But nothing done the night before last was done maliciously even if it did get out of hand. But it still was very fun - And isn't that the point of playing Minecraft together anyway?

We probably shouldn't do that again though - Or at least do it where it doesn't matter.

Oh and for the record, this is the condition we left Splat's enderman house in:


These are Glitch's houses as they currently stand:


I don't think anything justifies Splat's actions last night.

[Splat]

If I trashed the inside of Rupture Farms and rebuilt it differently you wouldn't call that repaired just because the outside walls looked ok.

Things are getting out of hand. Spawning mobs or whatever, it's destroying other people's work, which is the definition of griefing. If you're going to mess about and destroy things, do it to your own work. And if you don't want to do that, then think how you're making other people feel when you do the same to theirs.

EDIT: Also, thank you for de-opping me so I can't even fix the damage you did to my stuff. Who else has been de-opped for breaking it in the first place?

[Nate]

PTA = OWF Server.

[DarkHoodness]

If I trashed the inside of Rupture Farms and rebuilt it differently you wouldn't call that repaired just because the outside walls looked ok.

Things are getting out of hand. Spawning mobs or whatever, it's destroying other people's work, which is the definition of griefing. If you're going to mess about and destroy things, do it to your own work. And if you don't want to do that, then think how you're making other people feel when you do the same to theirs.

EDIT: Also, thank you for de-opping me so I can't even fix the damage you did to my stuff. Who else has been de-opped for breaking it in the first place?

This is why I use World Downloader to keep regular backups of something that I invested months of gameplay into. The server has its own backup system as well. Of course if an ender dragon was spawned near RF and it wrecked everything I'd be angry since I'd put a lot of time and effort into it - Although I'd know that I hadn't lost everything, and in the end it is just a game.

Since months of work can't easily be fixed even from using references, unlike your enderman house, in that situation I'd probably try and find a way of getting it back on the server via a separate world or so - Or not bother and simply work on it offline from then on.

However that wouldn't justify me to, in anger, deliberately and maliciously place TNT under other people's homes, rigged to explode when they opened the doors. This is why you got de-OPed. Those words are rich coming from you after you did that.

[Splat]

Ah, so if I'd merely deliberately spawned some destructive mobs by his house and let them destroy it, that'd be fine?

[DarkHoodness]

No it wouldn't, and you have a right to be annoyed - However Havoc's spawning of mobs was done what we thought was far away enough from anything important, but it did get out of hand even though it was done for the sake of entertainment. But at least look at the video and our actions before you assume that we "let" the dragon destroy your house. What happened wasn't right and can't be justified, sure, but it isn't like we didn't try to make up for the mistakes and attempt to repair the damage afterwards.

You're taking it entirely the wrong way - Remember that you're angry over something which happened in a virtual world to data on a server, most of which you haven't actually lost very much and was replaced by the people who accidentally removed it through incompetence. Yes, it shouldn't have happened in the first place, and I don't think it'll happen again after this, but even so - it doesn't justify you deliberately trying to remove other people's data in retaliation. Chill out a bit please.

[dripik]

What would make you see the fact that they meant no personal offence by it, and that they tried to repair the damage done to the best of their ability (which I think is the main difference between griefing and what they did)? I know you feel offended by it, and I know how you are when it comes to abusing server commands without reason, but come on.

Havoc, stop posting videos glorifying your Worst Idea Ever and provide some explanation! Grr and stuff.

On that note, I just remembered that the path between Dark Fortress and Ma'Spa got damaged by a (naturally spawned) Creeper, and I had no materials on me at the time to fix it. I'll go back there and do the repairs once I get home from work.

[Splat]

I've fixed the path, I've fixed the Enderman house, fixed the outside of my castle and I've been to the Nether to get the supplies to fix my castle after all the doors were left open and a creeper got in.

I've spent half the night and half the morning wound up about this and coming up with a wide variety of ridiculous solutions to make it all worse, from rigging the button that opens Havoc's door to claiming total ignorance to planting TNT everywhere and quitting the server, but in the end the best option seems to be for me to apologise.

Havoc, I'm sorry I rigged your house, and if you want any help or supplies repairing or working on it further, just say. Even without spawning I'll help and contribute as you wish; just say the word.
Nikki, I'm sorry I killed all the wheat in your farm.
Everyone, I'm sorry I let myself get so angry about this and acted so stupidly. I could try and justify it with not sleeping and stress but at the end of the day I acted like a twit and I'm sorry for doing so.

Edd, I don't for a moment think Havoc would stop spawning mobs just 'cus of this. But Havoc, I will ask you to stop doing it, 'cus it is causing problems on the server. We're very close to the server mob limit, or were, and Ma'Spa is a mess from chickens, let alone all the creepers and ghasts. Please quit it; it's not having a good impact on the game.

Once again, I am sorry for messing things up.