I Have Just Seen... VI -

Wings of Fire · #**961** 03-14-2013, 07:50 AM

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Kick-Ass is the only spoof film done right. If you don't know what I mean by that then let me jog your memory.
Vampires Suck
Disaster Movie
Teen Movie
Scary Movie
Every film with Movie on the end.

Suddenly Kick-Ass doesn't seem as bad.

No, Kick-Ass is nothing like those films in the slightest.

OANST · #**962** 03-14-2013, 08:26 AM

Kick-Ass also isn't a spoof film. It's a comedy about superheroes.

Wings of Fire · #**963** 03-14-2013, 08:48 AM

Also you better hope the writers of Kick-Ass 2 take the same creative liberties as they did in Kick-Ass (Actually making the story good for one), otherwise enjoy seeing Dave's girlfriend getting gang-raped for no reason.

Sekto Springs · #**964** 03-14-2013, 09:02 AM

Yeah, wasn't the original comic a bunch of angsty, insulting bullshit?

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The screenplay was good. I don't know who fucked it up.

I thought the screenplay was actually very wooden. Juenet's a frenchman though, so he probably didn't notice and the actors didn't care.

Wings of Fire · #**965** 03-14-2013, 09:04 AM

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Yeah, wasn't the original comic a bunch of angsty, insulting bullshit?

Worst comic I've ever bought, and I've bought some bad comics.

Mr. Bungle · #**966** 03-14-2013, 02:41 PM

I love the movie. Hard to believe the comic its based on could be so trash.

Wings of Fire · #**967** 03-14-2013, 02:57 PM

I'd like to simply be able to chalk it down to Mark Millar being a terrible writer, but Red Son was the first thing by him I read before I knew who he was and it was so fucking unbelievably good.

So I just really don't know what's with that guy. His other works all seem to be pieces of shit.

The cynicism was what really killed Kick-Ass the comic. Trying too hard does not begin to describe it. At every opportunity it strove to make the characters and situation as unrealistically unlikeable and cynical as possible. Hit Girl's father for instance in the comic was just a comic book geek who one day was bored and decided he'd raise his daughter to be a superhero and fabricated a big revenge story that he spun her whole life around. It was so stupid and so ugly.

Bullet Magnet · #**968** 03-14-2013, 03:03 PM

He didn't get the girl in the comic. She hating him for pretending to be gay. I thought that was more believable than that actually working in the film.

Wings of Fire · #**969** 03-14-2013, 03:05 PM

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He didn't get the girl in the comic. She hating him for pretending to be gay. I thought that was more believable than that actually working in the film.

You forgot the bit where he's still a bully magnet and her boyfriend sends him videos of him fucking her and his life is even worse than before.

So incredibly trying too hard angsty. So stupid.

Bullet Magnet · #**970** 03-14-2013, 04:27 PM

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You forgot the bit where he's still a bully magnet

He's a what now?

***Nate*** · #**971** 03-14-2013, 05:26 PM

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Kick-Ass is the only spoof film done right. If you don't know what I mean by that then let me jog your memory.
Vampires Suck
Disaster Movie
Teen Movie
Scary Movie
Every film with Movie on the end.

Suddenly Kick-Ass doesn't seem as bad.

I'd put Kick-Ass in the same category as Shaun of the Dead. Sure, they're spoofs, but the filmmakers actually wanted to make a coherent film at the same time.

Nepsotic · #**972** 03-15-2013, 03:24 AM

Shaun of the Dead is one of the best horror-comedies I've ever seen. Pegg and Frost never let me down. I even enjoyed Paul even though most people didn't like it.

OANST · #**973** 03-15-2013, 05:08 AM

KICK ASS IS NOT A SPOOF! Airplane is a spoof. Police Academy is a spoof. Hot Shots is a spoof. Scary Movie is a spoof. To be a spoof you have to be spoofing something. Existing within a genre does not make something a spoof.

Nepsotic · #**974** 03-15-2013, 05:12 AM

It's the same sort of thing, though, right?
On a side note does anybody know any bad films?
And by bad I mean fucking bad. I'm staying at My brother's for the weekend and he told me to get some films to watch. I couldn't think of any good films we haven't seen so I figured I'd get some films that are so bad it's funny. I want some hilariously terrible films, preferably horror, if anyone knows any.

Mr. Bungle · #**975** 03-15-2013, 05:25 AM

I'd say Kick-Ass is closer to a genre parody than a straight up spoof, but overall it's just a comedy movie and an interesting look at superheroes.

I watched the first scene of Falling Down the other day while high on marijuana and cough medicine.

I need to see that movie.

OANST · #**976** 03-15-2013, 05:27 AM

IT IS NOT A GENRE PARODY IT IS NOT A SPOOF IT IS A SUPERHERO COMEDY! THERE IS NOTHING THAT IT IS MAKING A PARODY OF AND IT IS NOT SPOOFING THE GENRE!

***Nate*** · #**977** 03-15-2013, 05:38 AM

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IT IS NOT A GENRE PARODY IT IS NOT A SPOOF IT IS A SUPERHERO COMEDY! THERE IS NOTHING THAT IT IS MAKING A PARODY OF AND IT IS NOT SPOOFING THE GENRE!

The moment a character in an XYZABC genre film start discussing about XYZABCs in some sort of comedically meta fashion, that XYZABC genre film has become an XYZABC parody.

See: The first Scream film. Arguably the second one as well.

***Xavier*** · #**978** 03-15-2013, 06:32 AM

Kick Ass is clearly not a parody. It's just a different take on the subject.

Hold on, are you saying Scream is a parody? Scream is a slasher movie set in a world that is aware that other slasher movies exists, I don't see how this is a parody.

Wings of Fire · #**979** 03-15-2013, 06:58 AM

I can only think Mark Millar intended the original comic to be a *shudder* 'deconstruction' of the super-hero genre, but it's just self parody all the way through.

The movie meanwhile is a straight up super-hero movie with some self aware dark comedy.

OANST · #**980** 03-15-2013, 07:41 AM

Scream rides the cusp of parody. It straddles it, and licks its own balls. I don't feel like Kick Ass did the same thing at all. A kid wanting to be a superhero because he is obsessed with comics is not the same as parody. If it had actually been a parody that would be one thing. But it wasn't a parody.

Bullet Magnet · #**981** 03-15-2013, 08:25 AM

If there was any parody it would be of geek culture.

Manco · #**982** 03-15-2013, 10:10 AM

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It's the same sort of thing, though, right?
On a side note does anybody know any bad films?
And by bad I mean fucking bad. I'm staying at My brother's for the weekend and he told me to get some films to watch. I couldn't think of any good films we haven't seen so I figured I'd get some films that are so bad it's funny. I want some hilariously terrible films, preferably horror, if anyone knows any.

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.

I watched this movie with friends a couple years ago having never heard of it before and I was floored by how utterly balls-out ridiculous it is.

AlexFili · #**983** 03-15-2013, 02:11 PM

Alien 3 is much worse than Alien Resurrection in my opinion.

Most of those 'spoof' films are just plain rip-offs and are frankly a disgrace to the cinema industry. May they be eternally forgotten and buried in a time capsule never to be unearthed.

Went to see Oz The Great and Powerful this week. I think it's better than the reviews say. It has some cheesy moments and generally plays things by the book but has a fair few plot twists and is pretty stunning visually. James Franco is doing a good job at being the 'everyman hero', his cheesy smile just makes the part of The Wizard even more believable

Sekto Springs · #**984** 03-15-2013, 05:58 PM

Kick-Ass is genre-savvy at best. People seem to think the words "parody" and "meta" mean something they don't.

MeechMunchie · #**985** 03-15-2013, 06:00 PM

I called a girl and meta for lunch

Steamer_KING · #**986** 03-15-2013, 06:20 PM

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I called a girl and meta for lunch

Look at-a you, trying to be malandri, eh?

Phylum · #**987** 03-23-2013, 04:59 AM

Cabin in the Woods.

My god, what a weird mashup of a movie. Was it actually supposed to be a comedy? It felt like a really unsatisfying case of a film that tried to bridge two genres and ended up neither here nor there. It wasn't really funny outside of a few brief moments, but the humor was just enough to ruin any of the attempts to be scary. The ending sequences inside the facility felt like an excuse to shoot cliches out and I just didn't really like it. I guess I could call it a farce, but I think that would be overly glorifying it. I'm glad I watched this with friends, because otherwise it wouldn't have been worth my time.

Also, ParaNorman. It was a sweet little film and had some really awesome themes about pack mentalities. It wasn't the best thing I've ever seen, but I'd recommend it if you're lost for a nice animated film aimed at a young-ish audience.

Nepsotic · #**988** 03-23-2013, 05:38 AM

That's quite disappointing. I downloaded Cabin in the Woods and was looking forward to watching it.

OANST · #**989** 03-23-2013, 05:48 AM

No. Phylum clearly isn't a fan of the horror genre, so didn't appreciate what they were doing, or just doesn't understand fun. Cabin in the Woods is worth your time.

Wings of Fire · #**990** 03-23-2013, 05:57 AM

Yeah, uh, I don't think Phylum watched the same Cabin in the Woods I did.