Meh. If you really want to go on discussing this. -

Strike Witch · #61 10-26-2009, 12:41 PM

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When the author's view on it is obvious self deception, I think it does matter.

You don't know that, so you really can't do anything but assume.

To clear this up, that picture of Watarase Jun is fanart, not an official image. His character in the show and dating sim is a childhood friend of the main character who dresses like that for the "good" of his friend, but the protagonist has no interest because he's not gay. So Jun is the only character you can't have sex with in the game, or even romance.

OANST · #62 10-26-2009, 01:27 PM

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You don't know that, so you really can't do anything but assume.

To clear this up, that picture of Watarase Jun is fanart, not an official image. His character in the show and dating sim is a childhood friend of the main character who dresses like that for the "good" of his friend, but the protagonist has no interest because he's not gay. So Jun is the only character you can't have sex with in the game, or even romance.

Oh, well that makes it all okay.

And for the record, you saying that my opinion doesn't count doesn't necessarily make it fucking so. If anything, you are the one with the suspect opinion. Rabid fans don't typically think too clearly about the subject of their fandom.

Leto · #63 10-26-2009, 07:32 PM

this thread is the largest stain on OWF

Strike Witch · #64 10-26-2009, 10:06 PM

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If anything, you are the one with the suspect opinion. Rabid fans don't typically think too clearly about the subject of their fandom.

Of course, then we wouldn't be fans, would we?

I'm saying I really don't care about it all any more. Sorry if you thought I was belittling you.

Leto · #65 10-26-2009, 10:32 PM

stop it

OANST · #66 10-27-2009, 08:20 AM

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Of course, then we wouldn't be fans, would we?

I'm saying I really don't care about it all any more. Sorry if you thought I was belittling you.

I understand where you're coming from. You enjoy this stuff from an artistic standpoint, and you also have an emotional attachment to the material. However, if these people were drawing these characters with a young teen appearance, and then saying they were older teens, well that wouldn't be such a stretch. As has been pointed out, there are a lot of very petite people out there. The problem that I have is when you start trying to pass off children who appear to be anywhere from seven to nine as being sixteen. Unless you are qualifying this by stating that they have some sort of anti-ageing disease then there is no other logical conclusion that I can come to other than that these people are sexually attracted to the form of small children. And no amount of transparent "it's art" talk is going to make it more than what it is: foul and repugnant.

Sekto Springs · #67 10-27-2009, 09:07 AM

It's anime, the least accurate portrayal of humans in the known world. Stfu. Its not a child, it doesn't look like a child (to me at least), and even if it was, did I mention it's anime? Fiction. Ink. Cartoon. False.

To argue that it's anything less than a drawing of an anime dick-chick is petty. You should all know by now that age, gender, and orientation are all fucking ambiguous in the anime world, so remove the stick from your ass already.

I'm tired of flogging a dead horse, and I feel like a bastard for posting in here yet again. It's just that every time I see this thread squirm its way back to the top of the board I feel an urge to point out, again, how incredibly stupid it was in the first place.

Boy or girl? Legal or underage? Better question; who gives a fuck? IT'S ANIME!!!!

In the immortal words of John Wayne Gacy: "I can't fap to this".

Wings of Fire · #68 10-27-2009, 09:09 AM

I'd tap that.

OANST · #69 10-27-2009, 09:35 AM

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It's anime, the least accurate portrayal of humans in the known world. Stfu. Its not a child, it doesn't look like a child (to me at least), and even if it was, did I mention it's anime? Fiction. Ink. Cartoon. False.

To argue that it's anything less than a drawing of an anime dick-chick is petty. You should all know by now that age, gender, and orientation are all fucking ambiguous in the anime world, so remove the stick from your ass already.

I'm tired of flogging a dead horse, and I feel like a bastard for posting in here yet again. It's just that every time I see this thread squirm its way back to the top of the board I feel an urge to point out, again, how incredibly stupid it was in the first place.

Boy or girl? Legal or underage? Better question; who gives a fuck? IT'S ANIME!!!!

In the immortal words of John Wayne Gacy: "I can't fap to this".

Not a single piece of this spoke anything more than "This thread upset my girlfriend, and so I think it's stupid". Yes, it's anime, but that doesn't mean that these people aren't drawing exactly what they want to draw. Non-pedophile anime artists are quite good at drawing people according to their age. Your argument however, is that this sort of thing is so common that it's stupid to even comment on it. Well, that's pretty fucking stupid.

It is a child. It looks exactly like a child. Which means that whoever drew that is living out a sick fantasy through their "art". Should it be illegal to have something like that? No. Does that mean that isn't repugnant, or disgusting? No.

So, to end I will say this. The next time you are basing your argument on whether or not your fucking girlfriend wants a thread to end, get the fuck out and come back when you have something relevant to say.

Sekto Springs · #70 10-27-2009, 11:54 AM

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Not a single piece of this spoke anything more than "This thread upset my girlfriend, and so I think it's stupid".

And your argument speaks nothing more than "I'm a daddy now. And my paternal instincts demand me to some how indirectly protect my daughter from pedophiles by putting up a big stink over an anime drawing of a girl that looks underage"

This is noble, and I have nothing against you or your daughter. I'm just saying that your feelings are misplaced in this situation.

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It is a child. It looks exactly like a child. Which means that whoever drew that is living out a sick fantasy through their "art".

It's not a child. Ghost, the original poster of the picture, confirmed this. And it's a pretty big assumption to say that the artist is living out some "sick" fantasy through this drawing. Have you ever even watched anime? All the characters look like that, even the adult characters. There's nothing "sick" about it, nor is there some kind of hidden meaning to their design, its just the way it is and always has been. If you don't agree with the way they're designed, fine, but it still stands that just because it looks like a child doesn't mean it is one.

However, if you're only continuing this argument for trolling purposes and it's meant as a big joke; then more power to you. Because thats fucking awesome.

OANST · #71 10-27-2009, 12:06 PM

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Actually it has little to do with Nikki. I find this argument genuinely stupid.

But I'm done posting here.

So there won't be any more pleas to have a topic that you don't care about closed, or at least changed to a different author? That's too bad, as those posts were really fascinating to read, and helped put an end to the conversation so well.

For those of you who are too new to know this, what you see above was my default posting style for years. I stopped it because I finally realized that I was being a dick, and it was uncalled for. I no longer go around picking fights with people, calling them stupid, and just all around belittling them. However, if you push me, I will push back. And I push harder.

Edit: Your post is completely different now.

You say that they all look like that, and I say that you are out of your fucking mind, or blind. They absolutely do not all look like that. And it doesn't take progeny to be disgusted by the portrayal of children as sex objects.

So now you have an opinion on the subject. Was the thread stupid because you disagree with me? Am I stupid because I find it distasteful when I see the form of a child with a hard on? Am I not entitled to think that the authors of such pictures are being dishonest with themselves, and their viewers by claiming the pictures to be something other than our eyes tell us?

I didn't make any allusions to anyone's sexuality (I explained to T-Nex early on that my post was a joke just as much as hers was), or intelligence. I was merely having a discussion. Either join it or shut the fuck up with the whiny "This should be closed" bullshit.

Leto · #72 10-27-2009, 12:08 PM

please for the love of god

shaman · #73 10-27-2009, 12:09 PM

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if you push me, I will push back. And I push harder.

Hulk smash!

Sekto Springs · #74 10-27-2009, 12:11 PM

Meh, I really am done. I don't like having it out with Mat as I like him too much. I'm just one of those guys that always has to say something.

Strike Witch · #75 10-27-2009, 12:36 PM

Eh, bored with the subject.

I get where you're coming from, OANST. It's just that watching shows and stuff where characters like these were portrayed as older has changed my view of them, so I think differently from you on this subject. There's really not much point arguing, so I'm gonna take a page out of the Chinese Thirty-Six Stratagems, and run the fuck away from the problem.

OANST · #76 10-27-2009, 01:03 PM

In retrospect, the "I push harder" thing made me sound like a massive douchebag. I stand by everything else, though.

MeechMunchie · #77 10-27-2009, 02:23 PM

Will somebody please close this already. I think everybody wants us to paper over this piece of history. Of course, it may be the mod's revenge for the volume of spam-filled threads they have to close, that they are now not closing one thread we unanimously dislike.

Mac Sirloin · #78 10-27-2009, 02:27 PM

Close

Mac Sirloin · #79 10-27-2009, 02:28 PM

Mac Sirloin · #80 10-27-2009, 02:29 PM

Wings of Fire · #81 10-27-2009, 02:30 PM

You're all doody heads, especially Used:)

MeechMunchie · #82 10-27-2009, 02:33 PM

I'm not immature! You're immature, stupid head!

Wings of Fire · #83 10-27-2009, 02:34 PM

Look at you, I was about to give you rep.

No moar.

MeechMunchie · #84 10-27-2009, 02:36 PM

Why? It was just a Jon Stewart reference. I didn't think you actually were immature.

Wings of Fire · #85 10-27-2009, 02:40 PM

No moar.

Strike Witch · #86 10-27-2009, 02:43 PM

I guess we're done here.

Pilot · #87 10-27-2009, 02:50 PM

The thing I think is silly about this is an adult trying to argue against pedophilia with a bunch of teenagers- often the subjects of pedophilia themselves and who honestly probably don't give a crap outside a select few. I think the responses here are appropriate given the age group.

DOODYHEADS!

Oh and also people, stop whining that this thread be closed. I hear you saying, "I WANT TO STATE MY OPINION AND THEN HAVE THE THREAD CLOSED BEFORE ANYONE CAN REPLY"

Let's concentrate on some of the more mundane topics with "discussion" already in progress.

*cough* "discussion."

I think this drives the point home:

OANST · #88 10-28-2009, 06:48 AM

If the conversation is over, it will end. Simple as that. We shouldn't just go around closing threads because either the subject or tone are making people uncomfortable. Now, if the thread started attracting pedophiles who were joining our forum to do nothing other than post in here, then I would obviously be handing "Get the fuck out" videos out to everyone I came across. I would then also desire it to be closed. But if it's just our community having a discussion, I see no reason to close it. It's probably done now, anyway.

Pilot · #89 10-28-2009, 04:27 PM

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Now, if the thread started attracting pedophiles who were joining our forum to do nothing other than post in here, then I would obviously be handing "Get the fuck out" videos out to everyone I came across.

Whew, that's good.

Leto · #90 10-28-2009, 07:50 PM

reminiscent of zoophilia thread amirite