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T-nex 10-24-2009 09:52 AM

MOD EDIT: Thread split off from here.

moo.

OANST 10-24-2009 10:06 AM

Jesus fucking christ.

Edit: And no, that isn't who I would turn for. That was an exclamation of exasperation.

abe is now! 10-24-2009 11:25 AM

Meh. If you really want to go on discussing this.
 
We are discovering Nexy's hidden passion!

T-nex 10-24-2009 11:27 AM

moo.

Wings of Fire 10-24-2009 11:27 AM

Lesbian.

T-nex 10-24-2009 11:28 AM

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Lesbian.

Straight guy!

OANST 10-24-2009 11:28 AM

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Yes.. I like chicks with dicks/girly boys... You got me there. You sure did.

Especially when they are 9, apparently.

T-nex 10-24-2009 11:30 AM

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Especially when they are 9, apparently.

In the anime world I've learnt that you can never trust their appearance <.< ....

OANST 10-24-2009 11:36 AM

Soo...since it's possible that this person who looks like a nine year old is actually older than nine, this is a perfect opportunity to admit that you are attracted to the nine year old form?

Hobo 10-24-2009 11:39 AM

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Yes.. I like chicks with dicks/girly boys... You got me there. You sure did.

Pwnd Sekto.

T-nex 10-24-2009 11:41 AM

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Soo...since it's possible that this person who looks like a nine year old is actually older than nine, this is a perfect opportunity to admit that you are attracted to the nine year old form?

Wow... Way to miss the sarcasm there O_o .... I opened the link and closed it immediately as stuff like that really doesn't interest me. SO I didn't get a good look at the face and stuff. On top of that, never did it cross my mind that it could be a 9-year old.... That was all on you.

So who's the real dirty-minded person here? Don't accuse me of such stuff.

OANST 10-24-2009 11:50 AM

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Wow... Way to miss the sarcasm there O_o .... I opened the link and closed it immediately as stuff like that really doesn't interest me. SO I didn't get a good look at the face and stuff. On top of that, never did it cross my mind that it could be a 9-year old.... That was all on you.

So who's the real dirty-minded person here? Don't accuse me of such stuff.

First off, I did get the sarcasm. Still a little weird, though.

Second off, recognizing that a person appears to be approximately nine years old does not make one dirty. It merely means that I have the ability to use my eyes and brain in conjunction with each other.

Mac Sirloin 10-24-2009 11:52 AM

Breakaway. He's adorable.

T-nex 10-24-2009 11:57 AM

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First off, I did get the sarcasm. Still a little weird, though.

Second off, recognizing that a person appears to be approximately nine years old does not make one dirty. It merely means that I have the ability to use my eyes and brain in conjunction with each other.

Well obviously you spent more time looking at the picture than I did.
I don't care for anime characters. To me all characters in the anime world world look under 18 years old, so it is a little hard to distinguish between them. But I don't think you've watched as much Anime so naturally you notice the questionable traits a lot easier. But for me it's all a big mess of weirdness, so it's become a little hard over the years.

But whatever I said was meant quite innocently. Id never look at a young kid and actually... Well I hope you understand.

OANST 10-24-2009 12:06 PM

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Well obviously you spent more time looking at the picture than I did.
I don't care for anime characters. To me all characters in the anime world world look under 18 years old, so it is a little hard to distinguish between them. But I don't think you've watched as much Anime so naturally you notice the questionable traits a lot easier. But for me it's all a big mess of weirdness, so it's become a little hard over the years.

But whatever I said was meant quite innocently. Id never look at a young kid and actually... Well I hope you understand.

It doesn't take long study to know that you're looking at a picture of a child.

T-nex 10-24-2009 12:10 PM

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It doesn't take long study to know that you're looking at a picture of a child.

Just leave it, ok? You've successfully managed to make you feel sick to the bone. You're also twisting my intentions rather terribly.

OANST 10-24-2009 12:16 PM

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Just leave it, ok? You've successfully managed to make you feel sick to the bone. You're also twisting my intentions rather terribly.

I'm not twisting your intentions. I saw you were making a joke, so I made one. As the conversation deepened it became less about what you said, and more about the state of a certain genre of animation. I don't give a fuck how old you say that the person is, if you draw pictures of people with the bodies of children in a sexual light, you are a pedophile. I couldn't care less if that is the norm. That only makes it worse.

Wings of Fire 10-24-2009 12:17 PM

That picture did nothing either to me or for me.

I was like 'Oh a little girl, that's nice...oh she has a hilariously oversized erection, that's nice' *Shrug* *Close tab*.

Can't see why people would be so offended by it or take it so close to heart, although by the rules of the forum isn't it technically softcore pornography?

OANST 10-24-2009 12:24 PM

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That picture did nothing either to me or for me.

I was like 'Oh a little girl, that's nice...oh she has a hilariously oversized erection, that's nice' *Shrug* *Close tab*.

Can't see why people would be so offended by it or take it so close to heart, although by the rules of the forum isn't it technically softcore pornography?

You talk as if drawing small children in a sexual way wasn't a staple of the anime genre. It isn't just that it's common in the fanfics. It's just plain common. That's disturbing. Can I say that I was deeply affected by that picture? No. I will say again that those who draw such things and then claim that they are pictures of adults aren't fooling anyone. Well, anyone who isn't a professed anime fan, that is.

T-nex 10-24-2009 12:28 PM

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I'm not twisting your intentions. I saw you were making a joke, so I made one. As the conversation deepened it became less about what you said, and more about the state of a certain genre of animation. I don't give a fuck how old you say that the person is, if you draw pictures of people with the bodies of children in a sexual light, you are a pedophile. I couldn't care less if that is the norm. That only makes it worse.

Yea but there are people who have petite bodies too... Anyway I just want you to know that I didn't in any look at that picture and register it as a kid and then think 'hot' ... In fact i didn't find the picture hot at all. I don't generally find drawn characters hot so it's all the same to me, although I have accidentally stumbled across drawn images of... Stuff like that and my reaction was something close to puking, ok?

Anime is just too vague. I saw an Anime once where the character looked 12 but shockingly I found out later they were supposed to be 17 or 16...
The thing I'm trying to point out here is that even though the characters look young, in reality they aren't meant to be.. And traveling the world of Anime enough will sort of desensitize you to these factors.. Just like traveling the Internet enough will desensitise you to the word "rape", sexual jokes and whatever...

Is it a bad thing? probably. But I still don't find any of it hot. I just don't get shocked by too much anymore... And Looking at a pic for a second or so isn't enough to determine what it is classified as. I saw long hair, a dress and then whoop!.. a dick.. I was like 'x_x'... And decided to to make a joke about it. Maybe to loosen to atmosphere in my own mind. I don't know.

But whatever.. I just don't want my image to be twisted and accused of pedophilia...

And no. I don't draw 'women' in the bodies of children...

But yea. Bottom line: It was meant as an innocent joke.

OANST 10-24-2009 12:30 PM

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Anime is just too vague. I saw an Anime once where the character looked 12 but shockingly I found out later they were supposed to be 17 or 16...
The thing I'm trying to point out here is that even though the characters look young, in reality they aren't meant to be.. And traveling the world of Anime enough will sort of desensitize you to these factors.. Just like traveling the Internet enough will desensitise you to the word "rape", sexual jokes and whatever...

Again, you draw a picture of a 12 year old, and call it a 32 year old, it's still a fucking picture of a 12 year old. Not. Fooling. Anybody.

T-nex 10-24-2009 12:33 PM

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Again, you draw a picture of a 12 year old, and call it a 32 year old, it's still a fucking picture of a 12 year old. Not. Fooling. Anybody.

I dont get what your point is though... I know this.

Wings of Fire 10-24-2009 12:34 PM

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You talk as if drawing small children in a sexual way wasn't a staple of the anime genre. It isn't just that it's common in the fanfics. It's just plain common. That's disturbing. Can I say that I was deeply affected by that picture? No. I will say again that those who draw such things and then claim that they are pictures of adults aren't fooling anyone. Well, anyone who isn't a professed anime fan, that is.

I didn't say it was a picture of an adult, you'd have to be quite blind to think that, and I only think Nikki claimed it couldn't have been because you two took eachother a little too seriously and she felt backed into a corner.

I am very aware of a subset of anime and manga draws young children in sexually charged situations and that it is called Lolicon and Shotacon, it's quite weird but I wouldn't call it pedophilic, I mean my favourite anime (Neon Genesis Evangelion) involves quite a fair bit of nudity and sexually charged situations involving fourteen year olds and that's quite universally aknowledged as art, first off because it's done for a reason. I am also vaguely aware that some forms of hentai center around pedophilia. I don't like hentai. That's sick.

OANST 10-24-2009 12:41 PM

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I didn't say it was a picture of an adult, you'd have to be quite blind to think that, and I only think Nikki claimed it couldn't have been because you two took eachother a little too seriously and she felt backed into a corner.

I am very aware of a subset of anime and manga draws young children in sexually charged situations and that it is called Lolicon and Shotacon, it's quite weird but I wouldn't call it pedophilic,

I'll call it pedophilic enough for the both of us. Don't worry.

shaman 10-24-2009 12:44 PM

Can't we all just get along?

First i need somone to explain this oddworld thing

OANST 10-24-2009 12:52 PM

When it comes to naked children? Apparently not.

T-nex 10-24-2009 12:55 PM

Cos Oanst apparently thinks we all just love naked kids...

shaman 10-24-2009 12:56 PM

Don't worry i didn't mean anything by it, i just wanted to continue this meme.

OANST 10-24-2009 01:00 PM

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Cos Oanst apparently thinks we all just love naked kids...

I don't think you love naked kids. I'm just irritated that people take stuff like this so lightly.

"It's okay. They say they're older and do it all the time." :) :)

That doesn't make it better. It really doesn't.

T-nex 10-24-2009 01:13 PM

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I don't think you love naked kids. I'm just irritated that people take stuff like this so lightly.

I just wanted that confirmed. Thanks for not thinking that badly of me.
I may take it lighter than you prefer.. But I still stand by my words that I did not see that image as a child mainly because I didn't really look at it much. Believe it or don't, but it's the truth.
In all honesty I saw it as a crossdressing person... Which is what I was joking about. I hope you realize this.

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"It's okay. They say they're older and do it all the time." :) :)

That doesn't make it better. It really doesn't.
That's not what I meant though. I don't think it's ok. That one image slipped my radar is one thing. I was trying to tell you that I agree. People usually draw really young characters and give them older ages which disturbs my mind.

But in any case. This is just one of the many things that just get mingled in to this big mass of carelessness. People joke about rape as if it's nothing... People joke about murder as if it's nothing. People are at some point bound to take this issue too lightly too unless something changes... And unless people become more decent.

It's like.. You're arguing about something that I don't really disagree with you about.