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bobtheguy · #61 06-13-2009, 04:25 PM

I don't think anyones understanding my point here.......

OddjobAbe · #62 06-13-2009, 04:27 PM

Because your point is flawed and fucked up.

Listen. People are all equal. At least, they should be. You can't put a value on life just because of a person's class or position. It does not work like that. Not in the slightest.

bobtheguy · #63 06-13-2009, 04:34 PM

no, it's not, okay I'll try to make one more comparison, who do you think the government would pay more to have as a hostage, a terrorist who was planning to blow-up the white house or a baby who had just been born ,and had no connection with terrorists. definately a terrorist.

OddjobAbe · #64 06-13-2009, 04:36 PM

What the fuck are you on about?

Alright, I'll put a value on you. You'll be either working class or middle class. Because of your views, I'm going to say middle class. You don't seem to have very strong morals, and you can't figure out where the shift key is. You come to about a fiver.

joshkrz · #65 06-13-2009, 04:55 PM

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no, it's not, okay I'll try to make one more comparison, who do you think the government would pay more to have as a hostage, a terrorist who was planning to blow-up the white house or a baby who had just been born ,and had no connection with terrorists. definately a terrorist.

By worth more, you mean the one who has most money right. Like Bill Gates compared to Tom, Dick and Harry. Bill Gates is worth more in that situation, but some how I feel that's not what your trying to get at...

OddjobAbe · #66 06-13-2009, 05:00 PM

Bill Gates wouldn't be worth more, Joshkrz. He's simply be more wealthy.

joshkrz · #67 06-13-2009, 05:12 PM

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Bill Gates wouldn't be worth more, Joshkrz. He's simply be more wealthy.

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By worth more, you mean the one who has most money right.

I was asking if he meant that.

OddjobAbe · #68 06-13-2009, 05:14 PM

I misread your post. It is my blunder, and I apologise.

joshkrz · #69 06-13-2009, 05:22 PM

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I misread your post. It is my blunder, and I apologise.

No problem, its late anyway and I know I don't think straight at this time.

***Nate*** · #70 06-13-2009, 07:12 PM

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The chances of a computer system glitching to change target are pretty close to 0%, no matter what movies tell you. It'd probably have glitched into shutdown first.

It's not about it changing targets, it's about whether it's all that good at differentiating enemy targets from friendly ones.

Like in WWII when the Russians trained dogs by putting food underneath tanks, then put them on to the battlefield with TNT strapped to their backs in the hope that they'd run to the German tanks and explode. Except that the dogs didn't recognise the German tanks and instead turned around and ran towards to the Russian tanks with which they'd been trained.

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Can't put a price on human life.

You clearly haven't had all that much contact with big business or bureaurocrats. You certainly can put a cost on human life; how much will the lawsuit cost you if things go wrong? Also, how much will it cost you in negative reputation and lost sales? It's worth it to spend up to that amount but no more ensuring that things don't go wrong.

bobtheguy · #71 06-13-2009, 09:06 PM

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By worth more, you mean the one who has most money right. Like Bill Gates compared to Tom, Dick and Harry. Bill Gates is worth more in that situation, but some how I feel that's not what your trying to get at...

by saying that the terrorist was worth more as a hostage to the government than a baby, I meant that the government would pay more to have a terrorist as a hostage than a baby, because a baby couldn't give any information about an upcoming terrorist attack while a terrorist can.
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By the way, oddjobabe, I'm just trying to make a point, I'm not trying to insult anyone.

ArtemisPanthar · #72 06-13-2009, 10:45 PM

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by saying that the terrorist was worth more as a hostage to the government than a baby, I meant that the government would pay more to have a terrorist as a hostage than a baby, because a baby couldn't give any information about an upcoming terrorist attack while a terrorist can.
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By the way, oddjobabe, I'm just trying to make a point, I'm not trying to insult anyone.

I really don't think that example has anything to do with what you were talking about. Your example is situational and does not at all imply that the baby has any less actual worth than the terrorist, but that the terrorist is the one applicable to that situation.

The point is - yes, people do put worth on human life. People think that some people are worth more than others. However, that's perception, that's our desire to classify and rank ourselves. No one really has any more worth than another. We like to think they do, that "we" are better than "they" but if you look, really look, we're all just people.

Afterall, who's the authority on how much a person is worth? Do we give that power to the government simply because we are governed by them? Should it then be OK to dispose of less worthy people? Understand this is the same line of thinking that was/is behind hate crimes against groups of people and mass genocides like the Holocaust.

Anonyman! · #73 06-13-2009, 11:01 PM

Don't program the computer to be stupid. Fuck, put anti-shootme chips in the soldiers if the machine goes retard.

bobtheguy · #74 06-13-2009, 11:12 PM

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I really don't think that example has anything to do with what you were talking about. Your example is situational and does not at all imply that the baby has any less actual worth than the terrorist, but that the terrorist is the one applicable to that situation.

The point is - yes, people do put worth on human life. People think that some people are worth more than others. However, that's perception, that's our desire to classify and rank ourselves. No one really has any more worth than another. We like to think they do, that "we" are better than "they" but if you look, really look, we're all just people.

Afterall, who's the authority on how much a person is worth? Do we give that power to the government simply because we are governed by them? Should it then be OK to dispose of less worthy people? Understand this is the same line of thinking that was/is behind hate crimes against groups of people and mass genocides like the Holocaust.

the middle part of what you are saying is almost exactly what I was trying to say this whole time.

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What the fuck are you on about?

Alright, I'll put a value on you. You'll be either working class or middle class. Because of your views, I'm going to say middle class. You don't seem to have very strong morals, and you can't figure out where the shift key is. You come to about a fiver.

i know where the shift key is. i use it all the time. especially at the beginning of sentences.
and how is everyone who is middle class supposed to be like what you just described. just because we have good jobs doesn't mean were bad. also the shift key is a good key.

Anonyman! · #75 06-13-2009, 11:27 PM

Way to not fucking capitalize while you try to make a point about how you capitalize. Unless you're trying to be ironic or something. Still, fail.

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You're not bad because you're middle class. You're bad because you're a bad middle class. Savvy?

bobtheguy · #76 06-13-2009, 11:32 PM

how am i bad?

Strike Witch · #77 06-13-2009, 11:58 PM

You're a Powerglove?

OddjobAbe · #78 06-14-2009, 01:26 AM

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i know where the shift key is. i use it all the time. especially at the beginning of sentences.

I dispute this.

And by the way, many, many working class people have great jobs. We're just as good as the middle class.

Strike Witch · #79 06-14-2009, 01:34 AM

CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

Anyway, I think that the success or failure of Artificial Intelligence systems in a military role is their ability to A. tell friend from foe and B. be able to figure abstract concepts out.

Anonyman! · #80 06-14-2009, 09:10 AM

When I type in all caps, I hold the shift button down. Capslock is for pussies.

Wings of Fire · #81 06-14-2009, 09:18 AM

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When I type in all caps, I hold the shift button down. Capslock is for pussies.

This. It lends a sort of satisfaction to your words.

IT MEANS YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR RANT!

bobtheguy · #82 06-14-2009, 11:27 AM

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I dispute this.

And by the way, many, many working class people have great jobs. We're just as good as the middle class.

i wasn't meaning that working class was bad or anything, but i thought you meant construction workers. sorry.

OddjobAbe · #83 06-14-2009, 11:30 AM

I made myself perfectly clear. Why you'd think such a thing is beyond me.

I still dispute that you are aware of the shift key.

joshkrz · #84 06-14-2009, 11:36 AM

Wow! My keyboard has two shift keys!

Also a Fn key :S, why does it have a Fn key, my computer is not a laptop.

And working class people are not builders, people in jobs involving heavy, hard work are usually called grafters. OddJob, is that an English term?

Anonyman! · #85 06-14-2009, 11:47 AM

this thread is lulz

OddjobAbe · #86 06-14-2009, 11:49 AM

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Wow! My keyboard has two shift keys!

Also a Fn key :S, why does it have a Fn key, my computer is not a laptop.

And working class people are not builders, people in jobs involving heavy, hard work are usually called grafters. OddJob, is that an English term?

Grafters? It's most likely derived from latin, but obviously, we do use it in England, as I'm sure you're aware.

Mac Sirloin · #87 06-14-2009, 12:56 PM

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When I type in all caps, I hold the shift button down. Capslock is for pussies.

Oh, fucking this. It's just not the same. Caps lock is to the shift key what a half-drunk glass of milk is to an Artillery cannon.

MA · #88 06-14-2009, 01:05 PM

where the fuck is this thread going?

Mac Sirloin · #89 06-14-2009, 01:08 PM

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where the fuck is this thread going?

I don't have a clue. One of the threads turned into a sports discussion and now this shit is here.

MA · #90 06-14-2009, 01:14 PM

i just know what line a mod is gonna use if they see this.

"i know where its going. Necrum. *Necrums*"