DOC! From Oddworld, Stranger's Wrath -

Dark Elite_H2 · #61 12-26-2005, 06:40 AM

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Im starting to worry about you.

Why? Think that I'll just magically appear at yer doorstep? Better go check the door, cullen.
(Ding Dong)
And for the Vykkers; Corrupt? Corrupt by the industry, yes. I just say they're greedy and sadistics. They just happen to LOOVE moolah, and like to operate on creatures, just for the hell of it.

***Wil*** · #62 12-26-2005, 07:11 AM

Unlike most industrial families, Moolah is just a means to and end for the Vykkers. Their place in Oddworld society is purely to fund their passion: bringing pain to others. It was a handy aid in legalising animal testing, convincing others that it was necessary for medical research.

***Nate*** · #63 12-26-2005, 08:17 AM

Okay, I get that that's the official history. I was just saying that I never would have felt it from the games if we hadn't known it from ow.com.

Cullen Heath · #64 12-26-2005, 11:57 AM

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Unlike most industrial families, Moolah is just a means to and end for the Vykkers. Their place in Oddworld society is purely to fund their passion: bringing pain to others. It was a handy aid in legalising animal testing, convincing others that it was necessary for medical research.

You mean: "Remember, if Vykker's Labs was'nt testing it on Fuzzles, they'd be testing it on you."

Yeah kind of. I guess they are sadists, although I think of Glukkons as sadits more than Vykkers.

***Nate*** · #65 12-26-2005, 07:35 PM

No, the glukks aren't sadist in general, they just bear a burning hatred for the muds because of past events. Max could give more information on that one.

Cullen Heath · #66 12-26-2005, 08:00 PM

I disagree.
"KILL EM'" sounds a little sadist to me.

***Nate*** · #67 12-26-2005, 11:25 PM

You missed my point. They don't enjoy inflicting pain on every other animal (which would make them sadists), but they do rather like doing it to the muds specifically.

Dark Elite_H2 · #68 12-27-2005, 06:15 AM

THat, I agree with. 'Member how the Glukkons wanted ter make Mudokon pops? I'd consider that sadist.

***Wil*** · #69 12-27-2005, 11:22 AM

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Okay, I get that that's the official history. I was just saying that I never would have felt it from the games if we hadn't known it from ow.com.

That applies to so many things, though. Who could've figured out that Sligs are impressed by large or exotic weaponry or that Mudokons are playful and fun-loving just by playing the games?

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You mean: "Remember, if Vykker's Labs was'nt testing it on Fuzzles, they'd be testing it on you."

Kinda. I meant more that industrial races wouldn't be able to have the medical, pharmaceutical and cosmetic advantages they do now if it weren't for animal testing. That applies to animal testing on Earth, too.

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I disagree.
"KILL EM'" sounds a little sadist to me.

They don't sound particularly sadistic when they yell that, they sound more aggressive and angry. Glukkons do enjoy hurting Mudokons, but that's more because they view them as deserving it than it is they take pleasure in the pain inflicting itself.

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THat, I agree with. 'Member how the Glukkons wanted ter make Mudokon pops? I'd consider that sadist.

They made meat products out of just about everything that moved. They were taking delight in the Moolah, not the suffering.

metroixer · #70 12-27-2005, 02:31 PM

Okay can we please get off the sadist subject? We are kinda going off topic here.

Cullen Heath · #71 12-27-2005, 05:07 PM

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They don't sound particularly sadistic when they yell that, they sound more aggressive and angry. Glukkons do enjoy hurting Mudokons, but that's more because they view them as deserving it than it is they take pleasure in the pain inflicting itself.

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Ahhh, yes Oddworld.
Where Glukkons are appreciated and, Mudokons are spit on for being the dirty, worthless slaves that they are.

Icarus · #72 12-27-2005, 05:21 PM

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Okay can we please get off the sadist subject? We are kinda going off topic here.

we are going a little off topic,so for everyone who knows what the topic is about, continue.

***Wil*** · #73 12-28-2005, 08:36 AM

Topics can evolve like all conversations do. So long as it's related to Oddworld this isn't considered as going off-topic.

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Ahhh, yes Oddworld.
Where Glukkons are appreciated and, Mudokons are spit on for being the dirty, worthless slaves that they are.

Exactly: Glukkons humiliate the Mudokons because that's what they deserve. They get a feeling of justice, not a feeling of pleasure.

Cullen Heath · #74 12-28-2005, 09:47 AM

Yup, thats how those dirty little Glukkons are.

Icarus · #75 12-28-2005, 09:51 AM

well since they pretty much run everything, they can do what they feel

Cullen Heath · #76 12-28-2005, 09:59 AM

Exactly! Thats why it sucks, to be an Underdog to a Glukkon. (which is almost everything, except Kahnzumers.)

Icarus · #77 12-28-2005, 10:02 AM

yeah you say"the consumers" but they get ripped of from bying useless cheap shit, this is exactly like that other thread.

Cullen Heath · #78 12-28-2005, 10:33 AM

No, no they don't. They get good stuff, Oddworld revolves around them!

used:) · #79 12-29-2005, 02:25 PM

Not really, not in my opinion at least. The Kahnzumerz live in a symbiotic relationship with the indutrialist super powers. The glukkons need their moolah, and the Khansumerz need their products.

I don't think you should look at them as evil fat beings who just want more food, in the AE manuel, they said that the Khansumerz were the most important species on oddworld, the manuels (the ones I have at least), take it from the just native point of view. With that stated, can we conclude that the iomportance of Khansumerz may affect all of the species on oddworld? Yes, I believe so, they are at the top of the food chain, it all goes to them.

Let's say this, they decide to stop purchasing indutrial products, the effect is that the Magog Cartel begins to decline slowly, with no need for slaves, the mudokons are freed or rise up. So ha!

Cullen Heath · #80 01-01-2006, 10:25 PM

I know, they are most definatley the most important creatures on Oddworld.
However, they dont get crap, they get good stuff.
But, yes. Oddworld does revolve around them. I agree used, if they did'nt buy products, EVERYONE would be screwed.

***Wil*** · #81 01-02-2006, 12:34 PM

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However, they dont get crap, they get good stuff.

Like the pharmaceuticals designed to induce adverse effects and the shampoo that burns holes in their heads? Like the cans of Brew that contain 10 000 calories each? If the industrial families of Oddworld can extort their own customers, they will.

Cullen Heath · #82 01-02-2006, 11:24 PM

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Those tested just fine, on the Fuzzles!

Okay, fine maybe I am wrong. But wait, Soulstorm Brew isn't sold, is it? I thought it was just used to influence the Native Mudokons into becoming slaves.

***Xavier*** · #83 01-03-2006, 05:36 AM

no it is sold... every product we saw developped by the Magog Cartel or the Vykkers Coglomerate is sold to Inhabitants.

consumer is not king anymore

Icarus · #84 01-07-2006, 06:31 PM

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no it is sold... every product we saw developped by the Magog Cartel or the Vykkers Coglomerate is sold to Inhabitants.

consumer is not king anymore

consumer was never king!!! the consumer's are little slurgs to get stepped on just so the glukkons can kill them just like Scrabs. This reminds me of Microsoft, they sell you cheap shit for an expensive price, but a dollar cheaper than other shit, (even though it's basically the same) Change the name, and Wallah!!! they got you feeling like god while secretly eating their shit. and the stuff they sell u is garbage, like the Xbox. Every game u put in there gets scratched. This is somewhat like what the glukkons do to......well..... everyone, including their own workers.

HobbitNinj · #85 01-09-2006, 08:17 PM

Hey, Icarus! If your games are getting scratched it is because you do not take care of the discs or you got some screwed up defective xbox by accident. Call customer service and stop the console bashing.

NE who, not all the industrial products are harmful. I mean look at Zap! and Expresso, those were quite helpful. Yet one does have to wonder at what expense-i.e. what creatures were used to make them.

As for what the original topic about Doc, just put yourself in his shoes. People are settling in new and dangerous areas in the west. There are working hazards building the settlements,outlaws running amuck, hostile natives, and the enviroment itself ( I wouldn't be surprized if a clakker had gotten himself squished by a boulder Wile E Coyote style). Since this is a new area that is being tamed, there are few, if any, who would start a business in that area until the population is ripe and stable enough. Ergo no competition( hike up those prices baby!) and a steady stream of "patients". If there were other doctors in the area Doc would have not asked for so much moolah. Stranger would have asked someone else. Where ever Doc came from we may never know but why he was in the west is quite obvious.$$$$$

Cullen Heath · #86 01-09-2006, 09:03 PM

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not all the industrial products are harmful. I mean look at Zap! and Expresso, those were quite helpful. Yet one does have to wonder at what creatures were used to make them.

Or, what creatures they were used against!

HobbitNinj · #87 01-10-2006, 04:46 PM

oh yeah...

i forgot what zap did....

blonde moment...

never mind.

Cullen Heath · #88 01-10-2006, 04:50 PM

Hah^
Thats alright, we all have those.

But yeah, they can hurt creatures to, even if they are not-so-nice creatures.

big bro slig #1 · #89 01-23-2006, 05:45 PM

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Wait a minute...Look at doc and Humphrey for a second....I think I see a resemblance! Could Humphrey possibly be doc himself? 0.o....

Excuse me if it's been posted before, but Humphrey and Irwin were blown up by the Fuzzles! But on the other hand,(paw?) if it was true that there was no good ending made then it probably be true.

Slig outlaw · #90 01-23-2006, 06:05 PM

That could be true but I really think Humphrey and Irwin are dead.