aliens and astronomy -

moxco · #**781** 10-26-2011, 05:45 AM

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there are probably lots of different aliens,some near humans some humanoids,some reptilian some bird like,the possibilities are endless

They probably would not look like anything that you listed. They are all clades that have evolved on earth; think of the simplest unicellular organisms and the most unusual fungi and realise that we , albeit very distantly, are related. What would something we are not at all related to look like?

Definitely not like anything that has evolved due to the unique conditions of the earth.

Dixanadu · #**782** 10-26-2011, 08:15 AM

There was a documentary on last month saying if the dinosaurs weren't wiped out, they'd probably evolve into a dino-man-thing.

The clay replica of what it would look like was nothing short of terrifying.

MeechMunchie · #**783** 10-26-2011, 09:49 AM

The last show I saw featuring that theory had it immediately followed by a bunch of scientists saying it was complete bullshit.

Cockroaches found their niche, and have only evolved to better fit that niche i.e. not much. Dinosaurs would have just got more and more dinosaur-y.

Dixanadu · #**784** 10-26-2011, 10:02 AM

I'd like to see a sapient alien race that evolved to fit the niche of the apex predator.

Tyrannosaurus Alan.

MeechMunchie · #**785** 10-26-2011, 10:20 AM

Intelligence is pretty much an alternative route for animals with no physical dominance. It seems kind of unlikely.

Scraby · #**786** 10-26-2011, 10:42 AM

i didnt mean that it would look anything like on earth,but you can sort em into groups,there is always a chance for it,depends on the conditions on the planet they evolved from,they might evolve similarly like humans,they might be all wierd and sloppy,they might be reptile like(not like our reptiles certanly) or they might be some kind of another intergalactic branch of evolution.if we give a chance what would it take to have a planet that has near human species,its like if you give infinite number of monkeys to write,one will eventually have a full text of shakespeare

Wings of Fire · #**787** 10-26-2011, 10:53 AM

Compare

The chance for the monkeys to produce the full works of Shakespeare (Us)

The chance for the monkeys to produce the full works of Shakespeare with a single typo reading 'Romulan and Juliet' (Dinomen)

The chance of two planets with the evolutionary conditions present to produce both is infinitely small, and that's before factoring in for chaos theory.

Bullet Magnet · #**788** 10-26-2011, 11:54 AM

That upright dinosauroid was a textbook case of humanoid chauvanism. They had a perfectly good bipedal form with grasping hands to begin with, thank you very much.

Here they've been given essentially a perfect human skeleton, with only the fingers, toes and skull differing. Pure nonsense! The barriers to that evolutionary direction are huge, and the destination of sapience from the dinosaur form has so many easier routes. Incidentally, two groups of dinosaurs have almost got there now: the Passerines have produced the crows and the psittacines have produced the macaws, greys and amazons.

One of my favourite palaeoartists Nemo-Ramjet produced a more realistic alternative to the humanoid dinosauroid, inspired by ground hornbills

And even gave them cave art, drawn with authentic tools and media using his teeth and hands held the way his creatures do.

He did, as revisiting the humanoid dinosauroid, try producing an authentic upright posture, but this was as close has he could justify.

MeechMunchie · #**789** 10-26-2011, 02:09 PM

Is that a scrotum or just a really manky penis?

Scraby · #**790** 10-26-2011, 02:30 PM

well alien evolution discussion can be quite well discussed with,i read a story from a man that escaped from the american government facility at area 51 ,unfortunately he was strangled to death in 1996 two weeks before publishing the books about the secrets of aliens,he described 4 races,1st race was a slim short big headed humanoid being,2nd one was a tall reptilian race,3rd was somekind of orange 4 limbed creature and the 4th were 6 fingered small stubby creatures with one lung.And as he described it he met one in area 51.

Wings of Fire · #**791** 10-26-2011, 02:35 PM

Surely if he was murdered two weeks before publishing a book then the publishing firm would have retained a copy of the manuscript?

Manco · #**792** 10-26-2011, 02:40 PM

They must have gotten his description of the species from somewhere.

Wings of Fire · #**793** 10-26-2011, 02:42 PM

So why did the publishers just not publish it? Were they scared away by his murder? If so why didn't they just burn the manuscript and why do people know about this?

moxco · #**794** 10-26-2011, 02:51 PM

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There was a documentary on last month saying if the dinosaurs weren't wiped out, they'd probably evolve into a dino-man-thing.

The clay replica of what it would look like was nothing short of terrifying.

Dinosaurs did evolve into a dino-man-thing, they're called homo sapiens.

Manco · #**795** 10-26-2011, 02:52 PM

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So why did the publishers just not publish it? Were they scared away by his murder? If so why didn't they just burn the manuscript and why do people know about this?

Viral marketing of the worst kind.

Wings of Fire · #**796** 10-26-2011, 02:52 PM

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Dinosaurs did evolve into a dino-man-thing, they're called homo-sapiens.

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Ridg3 · #**797** 10-26-2011, 02:56 PM

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My thoughts exactly.

Scraby · #**798** 10-26-2011, 03:53 PM

you may find some texts on the internet from his friend,he saw the pictures and stuff,but the documents,and pictures were stolen when he died that day,also the publishers got scared.... to bad

i would really like to read that book.

Havoc · #**799** 10-26-2011, 04:04 PM

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Dinosaurs did evolve into a dino-man-thing, they're called homo sapiens.

Bullet Magnet · #**800** 10-26-2011, 04:44 PM

Well as we know, birds are dinosaurs. And there was that memorable time when Plato was much praised for providing Socrates' definition of man "a featherless biped" to which in response Diogenes the Cynic presented a plucked chicken. "Behold! I have brought you a man."

"...with broad nails" was later added to the definition.

moxco · #**801** 10-26-2011, 05:15 PM

Our ancestor Eupelycosauria.

***Nate*** · #**802** 10-27-2011, 03:22 AM

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Long post with page-stretch images.

Just letting you know that I edited your post to shrink the images down. They were stretching the post so wide that it was impossible to read the text without scrolling left or right.

Also, I just noticed the results of the poll at the top of this thread. I am disappoint.

LDG519 · #**803** 11-05-2011, 01:51 AM

I was watching a show called "the elegent universe" and it was all about string theory and parralell universes, it speculated that gravity might be weak because it also effects parralell universes, if this is true would it suggest that dark matter is simply normal matter in parralell universes having a gravatational effect on our universe, also could a black hole in one universe make a black hole in another universe in the same spot

Scraby · #**804** 11-05-2011, 05:14 AM

i do believe that there are more universes,but that if something happens here and it affects a nother universes future,i dont believe in that.

Dixanadu · #**805** 11-05-2011, 01:41 PM

Just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it isn't there.

People thought the Earth was the centre of the universe, and that it was flat.

There may be things elsewhere people couldn't fathom.

Time will tell.

Bullet Magnet · #**806** 11-05-2011, 05:21 PM

If you see nothing, that is no basis to assume that anything is there.

Open mind is good. Brain falling out is bad.

moxco · #**807** 11-05-2011, 06:20 PM

Russell's Teapot

Anyway how can there be other universes, I thought the universe pretty much meant everything. Even If there were other large collections of bodies of matter, trillions of light years away, they would still be in our universe.

Scraby · #**808** 11-06-2011, 03:40 AM

i do believe that there might be other universes,but i dont think they affect our lives,like if in some universe a star dies,that in our universe the same thing happens in the same place,i dont believe that,what if in some universes an atom cant bind together leaving nothing but sluggy sub atom flocks.

Bullet Magnet · #**809** 11-06-2011, 07:38 AM

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Russell's Teapot

Anyway how can there be other universes, I thought the universe pretty much meant everything. Even If there were other large collections of bodies of matter, trillions of light years away, they would still be in our universe.

Other universes would not be any distance away at all. They would have distinct spatial dimensions (and perhaps ages and physical laws) so they cannot be reached in any direction. They are something else entirely from our universe, words like "somewhere" or "somewhen" don't apply.

LDG519 · #**810** 11-06-2011, 09:25 PM

I always thought of parralell universes like an extra dimention of space that we simply can't access