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OANST · #**571** 06-21-2012, 03:09 PM

Yeah, but you like Keane. So, it's okay.

Mr. Bungle · #**572** 06-21-2012, 03:09 PM

You obviously haven't listened to much Modest Mouse then, Meech. And even if you don't really dig the music, you gotta appreciate Isaac's lyrics. They're brilliant.

I'm posting Modest Mouse on a ten-year-old Mac, how hipster am I?

/thickrimmedglasses

OANST · #**573** 06-21-2012, 03:13 PM

He calls it boring droning, and you play those two songs? Jimminy Christmas, man.

There. Now it's been done RIGHT.

MeechMunchie · #**574** 06-21-2012, 03:15 PM

@Bungle Oh, I can appreciate the lyrics in anything. But the music's just dull. I like my music to be a little more... stimulating. Hence Tom Chaplin (Keane guy) busting his lungs out.

EDIT: OANST did it better. There's more passion there. Now we just need a coherent tune and we're all set!

OANST · #**575** 06-21-2012, 03:17 PM

Heh. Cute.

MeechMunchie · #**576** 06-21-2012, 03:20 PM

It's adorable when people get things wrong by not agreeing with you. Oh, the perils of youth...

OANST · #**577** 06-21-2012, 03:25 PM

It's just that those albums are pretty much universally considered masterpieces. It's not extraordinarily musical, I can give you that. But as art, quality, thoughtful, heartfelt art, there is so little that compares to Modest Mouse's greatest four albums.

Mr. Bungle · #**578** 06-21-2012, 04:29 PM

I was posting more lyric-based songs, but yeah. If Teeth Like God's Shoeshine doesn't impress you nothing will.

MeechMunchie · #**579** 06-22-2012, 03:45 AM

Well that's the thing, I guess. I never really believed that a musician is pushing themselves to their artistic limit unless they're also pushing themselves to their physical limit.

Anyway, this argument is stupid. In the grand Venn Diagram of popular culture, the intersection between OANST's bubble and mine is a tiny, tiny sector; just big enough to write "Fleet Foxes" in little squashed-up handwriting.

It's beyond never being able to convince the other person - we don't even have any common ground to use in arguments.

Anyway, back to music in general.

OANST · #**580** 06-22-2012, 06:05 AM

I wasn't really trying to argue with you. Taste is taste, and there's no accounting for it, or convincing someone of something that doesn't fit their taste.

However, art is not something that is so simple to qualify as "How technically impressive is it". Refined musicianship has it's place, but it's not the end all of the conversation. If the greatest technical painter in the world drew nothing but pictures of boobs, and cheese it wouldn't be great, or even good art. It may be a very well done painting, but that doesn't mean that it's "good". However, if someone whose style is somewhat sloppy in the technical sense, but they use that sloppiness to convey their heart breaking at seeing the world that they love being replaced with something cheap, and their hatred of their own inability to be effective in making the world a better place, if their paintings allow you to know yourself better than you had before viewing it because it's honest, it's sincere, and it's goddamn beautiful in it's ugliness, well, that's great art. And that's what Modest Mouse is.

Mr. Bungle · #**581** 06-22-2012, 11:58 AM

So in MM's mind this is the best song ever:

Steamer_KING · #**582** 06-22-2012, 02:15 PM

:

If the greatest technical painter in the world drew nothing but pictures of boobs, and cheese it wouldn't be great, or even good art. It may be a very well done painting, but that doesn't mean that it's "good". However, if someone whose style is somewhat sloppy in the technical sense, but they use that sloppiness to convey their heart breaking at seeing the world that they love being replaced with something cheap, and their hatred of their own inability to be effective in making the world a better place, if their paintings allow you to know yourself better than you had before viewing it because it's honest, it's sincere, and it's goddamn beautiful in it's ugliness, well, that's great art. And that's what Modest Mouse is.

Exactly!

Dynamithix · #**583** 06-22-2012, 02:30 PM

Interesting music.

MeechMunchie · #**584** 06-22-2012, 03:04 PM

:

However, art is not something that is so simple to qualify as "How technically impressive is it". Refined musicianship has it's place, but it's not the end all of the conversation. If the greatest technical painter in the world drew nothing but pictures of boobs, and cheese it wouldn't be great, or even good art. It may be a very well done painting, but that doesn't mean that it's "good". However, if someone whose style is somewhat sloppy in the technical sense, but they use that sloppiness to convey their heart breaking at seeing the world that they love being replaced with something cheap, and their hatred of their own inability to be effective in making the world a better place, if their paintings allow you to know yourself better than you had before viewing it because it's honest, it's sincere, and it's goddamn beautiful in it's ugliness, well, that's great art. And that's what Modest Mouse is.

MY BAND SHOUTS LOUDER THAN YOURS

OANST · #**585** 06-22-2012, 03:36 PM

One last attempt. Try this:

MeechMunchie · #**586** 06-22-2012, 03:39 PM

It was alright. I never like songs first time anyway, I'd have to listen to it on a loop for a week to to appreciate the subtleties first.

OANST · #**587** 06-22-2012, 03:41 PM

The song is seven and a half minutes long. You posted that it was alright three minutes after I posted it. Even if you were to have started the song a second after I posted it you still would have only listened to half. The song has "suites", and incorporates pretty much everything you wanted from music. Had you listened to it. Dick.

MeechMunchie · #**588** 06-22-2012, 03:47 PM

I just told you, man, I'm not going to listen to it once. I'll either listen to it a dozen times or no times at all, probably the former. But I want to go to bed and didn't want to leave you hanging. Is that such a crime?

EDIT: Oh, and "incorporates pretty much everything you wanted from music" is quite a large assumption.

OANST · #**589** 06-22-2012, 03:50 PM

LIAR!

MeechMunchie · #**590** 06-22-2012, 03:52 PM

I'm really not. It's ten to one in the morning over here.

Okay, I also got bored of the song and turned it off, but I'd assumed that was because I was tired.