General speculation/wishful thinking thread -

Gwan-Thwei · #31 05-08-2011, 11:08 AM

I would have liked your idea better if it were more about him realizing the error of his ways, or maybe doing an "underground railroad" sort of thing.

RoryF · #32 05-08-2011, 11:15 AM

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I would have liked your idea better if it were more about him realizing the error of his ways, or maybe doing an "underground railroad" sort of thing.

He only has 12 hours left, he don't have time to play games.
Maybe him being able to plant bombs around the factory and blow stuff up would be cool. It would be exactly like the AE good ending.

MrGothmog666 · #33 05-08-2011, 11:49 AM

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Who even uses that word anymore?
And yes, he probably does, but wishful thinking has no boundaries, and calling him on it makes you look like an uptight noob.

What wishful thinking? He was asserting that a 3D AE wouldn't be able to have secret areas, which put a HUGE boundary in his wishful thinking. I kindly went and explained to him that it is not the case, because a 3D version could have different secret areas, not just copypasta from the original.
On topic of Sligstorm, I don't think it would be a good plot device to make him have 12 hours left, at least if it is the case for the whole game. If it's just for the end, sure, but I'd think that destroying a facility on Oddworld requires a bit more strategy and planning, not to mention various other quests such as a recruitment of a small group of sligs to help you infiltrate the facility.

RoryF · #34 05-08-2011, 12:04 PM

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recruitment of a small group of sligs to help you infiltrate the facility.

He's already in there, he doesn't need no stinkin' recruits!

MrGothmog666 · #35 05-08-2011, 12:06 PM

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He's already in there, he doesn't need no stinkin' recruits!

Even then there are other uses to recruits, ie sligs inside the facility. BTW if this is a proper-sized game the facility would have to be huge to make the game long, so there should be some challenge other than just blow shit up and you're done. That would be pretty boring IMO.

RoryF · #36 05-08-2011, 12:10 PM

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Even then there are other uses to recruits, ie sligs inside the facility. BTW if this is a proper-sized game the facility would have to be huge to make the game long, so there should be some challenge other than just blow shit up and you're done. That would be pretty boring IMO.

There's a pot of gold waiting for you if you win.
Although you've probably wasted most of your time alive getting there, let alone use it.

Gwan-Thwei · #37 05-08-2011, 06:03 PM

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What wishful thinking? He was asserting that a 3D AE wouldn't be able to have secret areas, which put a HUGE boundary in his wishful thinking. I kindly went and explained to him that it is not the case, because a 3D version could have different secret areas, not just copypasta from the original.

Fucking christ, He wasn't asserting anything, and you baisically mocked him for making a joke and throwing an idea out there.

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Even then there are other uses to recruits, ie sligs inside the facility. BTW if this is a proper-sized game the facility would have to be huge to make the game long, so there should be some challenge other than just blow shit up and you're done. That would be pretty boring IMO.

Actually, mindless violence games usually do the best. Take a look at Halo Reach - Sacrificing decent storylines for mindless gore and better graphics.

Jesus, do you even think about what you're saying before you say it?

RoryF · #38 05-08-2011, 10:39 PM

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Actually, mindless violence games usually do the best. Take a look at Halo Reach - Sacrificing decent storylines for mindless gore and better graphics

...and the Multiplayer. Got to have the multiplayer. Maybe the other players joining the game can be the recruits, and they look like clones of you in different colours! That way we'd be following Halo's Multiplayer and loads of people play that...

Mudokon_Master · #39 05-08-2011, 10:47 PM

Looks like we have a plan boys! Now who's going to take the time and dedication to make this dream a reality? :P

RoryF · #40 05-08-2011, 10:49 PM

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:P

That could of been a better smily, I not doing it unless I have enthusiasm!
I not able to do it anyway.

Mudokon_Master · #41 05-08-2011, 10:53 PM

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That could of been a better smily, I not doing it unless I have enthusiasm!
I not able to do it anyway.

***Xavier*** · #42 05-09-2011, 12:24 AM

You guys don't seem to have a clue, what SligStorm was supposed to be about...

What the hell is up with blowing everything up and having only 12h to live?
This Slig just wants to escape to be free of all harassment due to him being an albino.

enchilado · #43 05-09-2011, 08:08 AM

But then he comes back for revenge in SLIGSTORM II: TODDAL ANNIHILATION

RoryF · #44 05-09-2011, 08:23 AM

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You guys don't seem to have a clue, what SligStorm was supposed to be about...

What the hell is up with blowing everything up and having only 12h to live?
This Slig just wants to escape to be free of all harassment due to him being an albino.

The part about the time limit to live was to increase the adrenaline for blowing stuff up...
...and maybe the fact we were joking...

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But then he comes back for revenge in SLIGSTORM II: TODDAL ANNIHILATION

SLIGSTORM III: ABSOLUTTE DEMOLITIONN

STM · #45 05-09-2011, 09:03 AM

SLIGSTORM IV: Listen to uncle STM and shut the fuck up!

Why does everyone wanna blow shit up in Oddworld? Buy a fire work for goodness sake.

RoryF · #46 05-09-2011, 09:09 AM

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SLIGSTORM IV: Listen to uncle STM and shut the fuck up!

Why does everyone wanna blow shit up in Oddworld? Buy a fire work for goodness sake.

You ruined it! The episode title is supposed to be in all CAPS!!

Also, we like blowing stuff up on oddworld because we can, it's fictional!

enchilado · #47 05-09-2011, 09:30 AM

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You ruined it! The episode title is supposed to be in all CAPS!!

Actually you ruined it first by 1) creating it in the first place by attempting to repeat a joke that wasn't funny the first time and 2) not including the word "odd" and 3) creating it in the first place by attempting to repeat a joke that wasn't funny the first time. Technically 1) and 3) are the same point, but I figured it was such an important one it was worth mentioning twice.

RoryF · #48 05-09-2011, 09:52 AM

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I'd rather be a crazy slig with mental problems, who also has only 12 hours left to destroy everything and create as much chaos within the Magog Cartel as possible. That's what I think SligStorm should be, but that's just me. It's a perfect plot for total Oddworld destruction.

This wasn't a joke, it was what I thought. That's why I put that's what it should be, I was thinking it would be a good idea...

***Xavier*** · #49 05-09-2011, 11:46 AM

Ugh, guys... cut the pointless spam please

RoryF · #50 05-09-2011, 12:46 PM

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We haven’t decided whether to make Abe’s Oddysee, Abe’s Exoddus, something new, or a combination of the above.

I just read this now and I reckon a combination is a brilliant idea. Since the two are direct follow ups to each other, I think it would flow nicely. Like a second part for those who finish the original game.
They'd have to change the cutscenes a bit if they do that though. I mean, it wouldn't make much sense for Abe to say "I just saved 99 mudokons from RuptureFarms", when the player may have only saved 40. I would recommend completely removing that phrase to make it easier though, it would be too much work to change what Abe says every time depending on how many saved.
It would be cool if they did it, but seems unlikely.

MrGothmog666 · #51 05-09-2011, 06:39 PM

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Fucking christ, He wasn't asserting anything, and you baisically mocked him for making a joke and throwing an idea out there.

There you go, asserting that it was a joke when it was really a stupid assumption. Indirect assertion is still assertion, and he was certainly indirectly asserting that a 3D Abe game would have no secret areas. Did he play fucking Munch's Oddysee? If he had, he'd know about the secret area at Splinterz.
Also you're misusing the term "mocked". I didn't mock anyone, I just proved his indirect assertion false. And if it was a joke, it was an INCREDIBLY lame one.

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Actually, mindless violence games usually do the best. Take a look at Halo Reach - Sacrificing decent storylines for mindless gore and better graphics.

Jesus, do you even think about what you're saying before you say it?

Oddworld ain't no mainstream piece of shit bro

Steamer_KING · #52 05-09-2011, 07:08 PM

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Exactly, feedback is the key. So if they make all games at the same time, and release them at the same time, they cannot add the feedback in the other games before release. Not that they would release all at the same time. But they are already working on more projects at once. To me that seems that the focus is not entirely on one game as it actually should have been. I see those things happen at where I work (totally unrelated, but the principle is the same), that they have to split their focus on several projects, and loose the full potention of the single project that could have been much better if they had given attention seperately. Now all they do is put more attention to those already release projects because they were not good enough, so that is a total waste of funds, resources and image to the customer!

Therefor they should focus more on the release of SW before doing the other stuff

I completely agree with this. I think they should just focus ONLY on SW, then MO, then ABE HD, and so on. They're trying to get too much things at hand, and that's why OWI just didn't get to function 100%, because Lorne just got tons of ideas, like the Oddworld Movie, Citizen Siege, the Quintology aka Pentology and so on. I like the ideas from Lorne, but please, finish one until the other. That said, I think, they're making a fine job.

Gwan-Thwei · #53 05-09-2011, 07:14 PM

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There you go, asserting that it was a joke when it was really a stupid assumption. Indirect assertion is still assertion, and he was certainly indirectly asserting that a 3D Abe game would have no secret areas. Did he play fucking Munch's Oddysee? If he had, he'd know about the secret area at Splinterz.

I wasn't asserting anything, and he wasn't assuming anything. Throwing an idea out there does not automatically make them a complete retard, you twat. And what if he hasn't played Munch, does that mean he's a retard for not knowing that it has secret areas too?

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Also you're misusing the term "mocked". I didn't mock anyone, I just proved his indirect assertion false. And if it was a joke, it was an INCREDIBLY lame one.

No, I'm not, you pompous waste of air. You didn't prove anything, except that you're an arrogant cunt-face.

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Oddworld ain't no mainstream piece of shit bro

That had nothing to do with what I said whatsoever. I know it's not mainstream, but anyone who's played it loves it because it has a great storyline. REACH, for example, has shit for story and has good multiplayer, so that makes it better in everyone's eyes. Everyone has played REACH, but almost no one has played Oddworld.

On topic: Bringing back sligstorm would be nice. It sounds fun, and it looks like it's have a reasonable plot.

RoryF · #54 05-09-2011, 10:46 PM

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On topic: Bringing back sligstorm would be nice. It sounds fun, and it looks like it's have a reasonable plot.

With SligStorm, are you on about the actual plot or my one that I thought the game would be good as?

Also, I've played Munch's Oddysee, but it was ages ago that I did. There might have been a secret area. My point was (AO/AE BTW), this version they're making is the original game, so it will have all the original secrets. You can't make some of the 2D secrets 3D without making them obvious. That would defeat the point.

If you don't get it, take a look at RuptureFarms, the the secrets behind the barrels, if it were 3D, you'd be able to see a gap there.

Another point is, a lot of people liked the original game being as it was, 2D. What they're doing now is technically the same thing since the background graphics in AO and AE were 3D, just put in a 2D view. With newer consoles and PCs, the power is much less limited, and can handle semi-"true 3D".

Also, did anyone else agree with the combination idea? I thought that was great.

enchilado · #55 05-09-2011, 10:53 PM

I don't think it's a good idea at all. The games' stories work very well with them as separate games, and I think it would suck to mash them together.

RoryF · #56 05-09-2011, 10:58 PM

The only problem I would've had if they were combined was the fact you'd be doing the scrabs and paramites twice, it might be a bit boring. Two seperate games maybe good...

Manco · #57 05-10-2011, 12:05 AM

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I completely agree with this. I think they should just focus ONLY on SW, then MO, then ABE HD, and so on. They're trying to get too much things at hand, and that's why OWI just didn't get to function 100%, because Lorne just got tons of ideas, like the Oddworld Movie, Citizen Siege, the Quintology aka Pentology and so on. I like the ideas from Lorne, but please, finish one until the other. That said, I think, they're making a fine job.

SW and MO are just HD remasterings - not exactly the most labour-intensive projects. I'm sure they can handle multitasking in this case.

Glitch · #58 05-10-2011, 01:34 AM

I like the idea of remaking the original with minimal changes and leaving the new stuff for new developments.

Oddysee and Exoddus just wouldn't work in full 3D

Gwan-Thwei · #59 05-10-2011, 05:42 PM

This comment will seem off topic, but hopefully it'll fit in somewhere.
In the game SPORE, my favorite level is playing as an animal. Killing and running around is really fun to me. As soon as everything is dead or befriended, I deletd the planet because I don't like doing anything else with them.
To me, having a game from the point of view of a Scrab or Paramite would be cool, because I enjoy that sort of thing. Ooh, maybe they could make a game about a Meech who has to find and rescue other meeches...That would be sweet!

Crashpunk · #60 05-11-2011, 02:35 AM

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Of course in Sligstorm you would have played a slig grub, so you wouldn't have actually had a gun.

I think you'll find a Pants machine.