Tunisia & Egypt Uprisings

[STM]

No, I said I'm all for rebellion but it can't end up like Zimbabwe or other such countries. Look at Tito's Yugoslavia, their WW2 rebellion caused a fantastic country to arise.

[Dixanadu]

Look at Tito's Yugoslavia, their WW2 rebellion caused a fantastic country to arise.

Scraby would disagree with that. But I'm not Scraby, so I agree.

[abe619]

well things are starting to lighten up about the escaped convicts thingie here, and the protests seem like the finally made the old dude move to do something for the people.
however, i think he still should leave, 30 years is enough i mean he 6 American presidents went by and he remained.

[enchilado]

Mubarak Obama

[Havoc]

There's a lot of rumors floating around that Mubarak might actually be stepping down as president tonight. It's been confirmed that he'll be giving a speech to the public tonight.

[Manco]

There's a lot of rumors floating around that Mubarak might actually be stepping down as president tonight. It's been confirmed that he'll be giving a speech to the public tonight.

For anyone interested, Al Jazeera English is doing a live stream of Mubarak's speech.

Speech is expected to start at 20:00GMT.

e: The fucker's late.

e2: He's on, he's basically repeated his "I will not run for the next election" and is now spouting political shit.

Shit will be going down in Cairo.

[scrabface]

man Mubarak is living in another world...

[Manco]

He sure as hell won't be living in this one much longer if he doesn't leave.

[Wings of Fire]

The vice president is a very very tired looking man.

[Manco]

Vice-president: "Go home, stop watching the satellite television channels."

What.

[Wings of Fire]

Haha 'Vice torturer'.

[Manco]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...nation-rumours

9.51pm GMT: This is interesting: the BBC's Paul Adams reports that people in Cairo are receiving text messages from the high council of the army, saying that it is monitoring how events unfold and will decide how to act.

I think the Army is up to something big here.

e: Ahahaha the photo on the front page of MSNBC: http://i55.tinypic.com/3a104.jpg

e2: Again from The Guardian liveblog:

10.42pm GMT: Here's what we know, based on what's coming out of the Egyptian government right now: Hosni Mubarak is president in name only, after transferring all the powers of the presidency to his vice president Omar Suleiman.

[scrabface]

well he's gone. will something change? and what will come?

[Dixanadu]

Find out, on the next exciting episode of, 'Stuff No One Gives A Fuck About'.

[scrabface]

you're an idiot. it's simple as that.

[Dixanadu]

Yes, I'm stupid for not caring about Egypt.

[Phylum]

What's an Egypt?

[MA]

bomb those pyramids.

[Nate]

I sometimes worry about the average IQ level of the forums when there are members who still seem to think that the 'bomb those...' meme is amusing.



Anyway, as I said in Abe619's blog, he's stepped aside for a military dictatorship. I don't see this as a particularly good thing. Would have been better to call elections earlier and had a real transfer of power.

I sincerely hope that the next leader establishes a proper constitution; one that can only be changed by referendum and not on the President's whim.

[metroixer]

Glad to see I'm not the only one feeling uneasy about the military having the power, I'll admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to that kind of government but every time I've heard about one it hasn't ended well...

[Manco]

Well it was either the military or Suilman. I think things could have gone worse.

Hopefully, since the military's been on the side of the people throughout most of this, they'll do the right thing. I guess time will tell.

[Bullet Magnet]

The military seemed to have wanted to join the civilians during the protests anyway.

[STM]

...There were sufficient numbers of military personnel fighting and killing the civilians even at an unarmed stage though. A friend who lives in Egypt as a teacher has returned to Britain and showed us all these terrible pictures of the catastrophe and the military certainly wasn't on the civilian side at least, not a majority.

[Dixanadu]

What's an Egypt?

Pyramid Head's hometown.

[abe619]

...There were sufficient numbers of military personnel fighting and killing the civilians even at an unarmed stage though. A friend who lives in Egypt as a teacher has returned to Britain and showed us all these terrible pictures of the catastrophe and the military certainly wasn't on the civilian side at least, not a majority.

Those weren't military those were thugs hired by police and/or police...most of the military watched and protect and some of them even joined the protests, i think we can safely say the revolution ended successfully, military rule is only temporary for the next few months, it will be changed to civilian rule (idk if that's the word for it in english) after that.

[STM]

Is there a possibility that the army might enjoy their power to much to hand it over though? Power is the ultimate corruption.

[Elmatto753]

And corruption is the ultimate power.

[STM]

You mean knowledge is the ultimate power. Knowledge is power, power is corruption and corruption is stagnation, stagnation is rebellion, rebellion is power...etc

[abe619]

there is a very tiny possibility, but the troops are much better than police a while back when the protests in tahrir were still violent and huge, they had orders to fire at will, but there wasn't a single bullet fired that night or the nights after that.
and i agree power can easily corrupt the purest of people.

[Elmatto753]

You mean knowledge is the ultimate power. Knowledge is power, power is corruption and corruption is stagnation, stagnation is rebellion, rebellion is power...etc

I suppose. Knowledge is good. I just like corruption, that's all.