Play it 4-ward video discussion -

OANST · #31 01-14-2010, 02:17 PM

You can't spell ruthless without ruth.

MA · #32 01-14-2010, 02:44 PM

Ruth is a bitch.

Sekto Springs · #33 01-14-2010, 02:46 PM

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Sherry on the other hand would have been a filthy rich CEO of some puppy killing factory if she hadn't paired up with Lorne and his silly "vision" and equally grating morals. She's a little scary to be honest.

At least she provided her employees with a bounty of fruit and grain as an alternative to coffee and donuts...

Oh god, she really is the devil.

***Nate*** · #34 01-14-2010, 04:10 PM

Grow up, everyone.

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Fuck knows where we talk about this on the Oddworld Forums. =P

A social network about a social network? I'm guessing that TAS won't need to be discussed externally, simply because it's a discussion in it's own right.

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Isn't that kind of against everything Lorne has ever stood for: to make Oddworld a big corporate identity?

I can't find the original quote on the oddworld.com website, but when the Xbox announcement was first made, Lorne and Sherry did a FAQ where they clarified that they're not anti-corporation or even anti-massive corporation, just anti-evil in any form.

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Hazz, what's so surprising about this is that OWI has always been a supplier of speculative fiction, whether that's through the medium of video games, films or promotional websites. Oddworld, Citizen Siege, Pound Dog, all fit this. A social networking site? That's quite outside the box.

Yes. Except that he's also described it as a gaming platform. My guess is that the social network part of things is him using a current catchphrase and we shouldn't look too hard in to it. You could call WoW or TF2 social networks also, after all

Note the fact that he hasn't used the word 'site' at all. He's just talking about online social networks.

Sekto Springs · #35 01-14-2010, 04:37 PM

Like I said, if ideal circumstances are in place we could ream him with a good question and answer round come Spring. Of course, I'm being very presumptuous. We may not see Lorne at all, and if we do, I'd feel like a real asshole approaching him like a speculative journalist trying to get some dirt.

Dunno. It's up in the air at the moment.

Leto · #36 01-14-2010, 06:13 PM

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I can't find the original quote on the oddworld.com website, but when the Xbox announcement was first made, Lorne and Sherry did a FAQ where they clarified that they're not anti-corporation or even anti-massive corporation, just anti-evil in any form.

OHHHH SNAP

Sekto Springs · #37 01-14-2010, 06:30 PM

Lorne's political/moral stances may be contradicting and downright confusing, but he's a creative genius so I'm cool.

He's a Californian, ffs. Are there any Californians that aren't leftist to the point of screwy hypocrisy?

***Nate*** · #38 01-14-2010, 06:51 PM

Yes. Many of them. California is a freaking big state. You just tend to hear more about SF and LA than all the rest of it.

Also, he's originally from the East Coast.

Sekto Springs · #39 01-14-2010, 06:53 PM

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Also, he's originally from the East Coast.

When did he move?

***Nate*** · #40 01-14-2010, 07:11 PM

Wikipedia would imply that it was some time between studying at the School of Visual Arts in New York City and at the California Institute of the Arts in Valencia, California.

Sekto Springs · #41 01-14-2010, 07:37 PM

Still sounds to me like he was predisposed to highly leftist environments his whole life. Regardless of how many people in CA don't adhere to the stereotype, Lorne still does.

I don't disagree with Lorne's political views really, I'm just playing devil's advocate. He could be a real twat and I'd still love his work, as is the case of many of the creative folks I emulate.

Rayrockslots · #42 01-14-2010, 07:51 PM

Well I guess something is better then nothing, even if nobody knows what the hell is going on at least something is going on...I guess. I just hope we're not waiting for months for another update.

Is his hair going grey?

looney-bin · #43 01-14-2010, 10:28 PM

Gaaaabe! Buy OWI already. Lorne's finally lost it.

hidden · #44 01-15-2010, 05:24 AM

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It's described as a place where people who don't like each other can have it out, and end up becoming the greatest of friends. That's some stupid hippy shit that will never work on the internet.

While I have my doubts about it's sellability given the way people have reacted, I think on the odd chance it breeches the market it might work.** I went from being enemies with some girl 'cause she kept stealing my hat and lunch, to being best friends 'cause our rents made us have a sleepover or something to sort things out. I can't really remember that well being 7 at the time.

**Then again i was seven, I think children have different perspectives on forgiveness.

OANST · #45 01-15-2010, 06:02 AM

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'cause our rents made us have a sleepover or something to sort things out. .

My rents have to get paids.

Sekto Springs · #46 01-15-2010, 06:36 AM

I thought you owned your house Mat.

MeechMunchie · #47 01-15-2010, 10:52 AM

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As I understand it, Justin will try his damndest to stalk him and sedate him, dragging him along on Oddtour. If this happens, he and I could thoroughly probe him.

Oh dear, what has Pilot talked you into?

Also, to the points about gaming networks: Steam worked out fine.

Sekto Springs · #48 01-15-2010, 12:58 PM

Admittedly, the above scenario is far more likely.

***Wil*** · #49 01-16-2010, 09:42 AM

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Except that he's also described it as a gaming platform.

Where has he?

OANST · #50 01-16-2010, 09:43 AM

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Where has he?

I was also wondering that, but figured that you guys had had enough of my smart ass comments in OD for a while.

***Wil*** · #51 01-16-2010, 09:50 AM

No, people just started saying he was talking about basically a game with socially networky component. I checked everything he said in both videos and in answer to the question and found nothing. I also checked the trademarks from a while back, and while it mentions online gaming with user-generated content, it also talks about

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online social networking services, namely, facilitating social interaction among individuals, social introductions, and for finding persons with particular hobbies, interests and backgrounds

i.e. Facebook

MojoMan220 · #52 01-16-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorne Lanning
My thesis is this: If enemies can attract and engage in fun together, they will grow closer. And on that basis, [I'm working on a project that will grab] a global base of users that are attracting for all the wrong reasons towards one another, contextualizing their angst in the real world and connecting it to the angst that they display in game experiences.

I guess it isn't clearly articulated, but I read this as incorporating a gaming aspect.

OANST · #53 01-16-2010, 10:24 AM

It seemed to me as if he was just referring to his past experiences in the field of video games, using it as an analogy. It doesn't sound like this is going to be a game to me.

MojoMan220 · #54 01-16-2010, 10:27 AM

Honestly, I'm not sure as to whether he's saying that this platform will attract the abovementioned type of person (one who contextualizes their angst in the real world...), or if he's saying this is what the users of such a site will be doing, I.E. they'll be contextualizing their angst in the real world and connect it to the angst that they display in game experiences. I don't think it's a game, but I thought that the social network part might connect with game experiences somehow. Now I've confused myself.

Edit: Also he starts by mentioning a global base of users that do these things. Why not say people if he was speaking broadly?

OANST · #55 01-16-2010, 10:30 AM

Lorne's announcements have become increasingly vague as time goes by. I guess we'll know for sure when and if it launches.

IThoughtIHadAGoodJob · #56 01-16-2010, 12:06 PM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one with a total WTF reaction...
Not that it'll be bad, but it does seem a bit, well, "odd"... (sry, I had to.)
When I finally saw an update on Oddblog I was extremely excited, then extremely confused. Whatever Lorne's doing, he should stick to finishing at least one new thing first. At least a useful update, please! All I'd like is a simple acknowledgment from Lorne that he isn't just letting OW or CS sit in a mental basement collecting dust...

Sekto Springs · #57 01-16-2010, 01:19 PM

It does seem like Lorne is taking on more projects than he can handle.
I don't know how invested he is in each one, but I sincerely doubt he has the manpower or the resources to work on them simultaneously.

Hazz-JB · #58 01-16-2010, 04:12 PM

I've always had the impression that he's got some grand plan rather than a muddled bunch of ideas, but I guess it's a bit of both. Either way I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I hope the next Oddworld doesn't become the new Duke Nukem Forever though

***Nate*** · #59 01-16-2010, 06:46 PM

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It does seem like Lorne is taking on more projects than he can handle.

Not really. As far as we know, he's not working on either CS or the Abe movie at all. That would be like suggesting that he's still working on Hand of Odd and Munch's Exoddus.

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Where has he?

I can't pinpoint an exact quote, but it's the impression I got from previous interviews where he expressed opinions on the future of gaming. I could be wrong.

Sekto Springs · #60 01-16-2010, 07:00 PM

So they're officially on hold then?
Good lord.