What does Abe see when he chants? -

***Xavier*** · #31 05-19-2009, 11:39 AM

Can't see how this can be interesting... but I think he's totally blind when in a piece of Metal.

Crashpunk · #32 05-19-2009, 12:28 PM

Its Interesting because its one of them questions that make you think. i like it!

joshkrz · #33 05-19-2009, 12:45 PM

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Bells?

abes oddysee, monsaic lines

Crashpunk · #34 05-21-2009, 09:39 AM

Ahh yes, never got that. He could possess Bells but not Scrabs?

***Xavier*** · #35 05-21-2009, 10:22 AM

I guess the Scrab's mind is stronger or more complex then the one of a piece of metal

Crashpunk · #36 05-21-2009, 11:04 AM

I suppose. but how come Abe can Possess them in Exoddus(One of the best things about the game!) and couldn't in Oddysee?

joshkrz · #37 05-21-2009, 11:32 AM

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I suppose. but how come Abe can Possess them in Exoddus(One of the best things about the game!) and couldn't in Oddysee?

mabey the two tatoos together...?

Crashpunk · #38 05-21-2009, 11:46 AM

Oh never knew that.

joshkrz · #39 05-21-2009, 12:11 PM

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Oh never knew that.

yerh that was actually quite a fluke of a brainwave i had there

Phylum · #40 05-22-2009, 01:10 AM

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I suppose. but how come Abe can Possess them in Exoddus(One of the best things about the game!) and couldn't in Oddysee?

After obtaining the scrab tattoo, he gained the ability to possess scrabs . The only problem is that you don't see them again until exoddus.

joshkrz · #41 05-22-2009, 03:29 AM

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After obtaining the scrab tattoo, he gained the ability to possess scrabs . The only problem is that you don't see them again until exoddus.

ah and same goes for paramites, has anyone found a scrab / paramite after the tatoos? if you have, try possesing them on AO.

...its not gonna work ...

***Nate*** · #42 05-22-2009, 05:43 AM

It's less about the tattoos and more about his personal spiritual development and increased skill through more experience.

joshkrz · #43 05-22-2009, 09:00 AM

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It's less about the tattoos and more about his personal spiritual development and increased skill through more experience.

he dosent get much time to practice between to two games though, even so, the tatoo idea works as well

i wish i could possess people

Crashpunk · #44 05-26-2009, 12:17 AM

So whatever scar Abe gets from big face he can possess that race. Ah i get it now, its so simple! but somehow i never got it when i was a kid.

Abe gets a mudokon scar. So then if theres lazy mudokon workers, just possess them and make them walk into a bird portal

***Nate*** · #45 05-26-2009, 12:32 AM

That doesn't explain why he can possess Glukkons and slogs.

Crashpunk · #46 05-26-2009, 01:17 AM

There brains are not as complex as a Scrab or a paramite.
so abe can possess them easier, wait Gluukon are quite smart.... Ahgh i don't know

***Xavier*** · #47 05-26-2009, 03:12 AM

Nate has a very valid point there...

I think he can only posses Sligs in AO due to the similarities in their mind structure. Therefore he would have to build some experience to be able to handle minds of wild animals.

joshkrz · #48 05-26-2009, 05:17 AM

yes, but there are no glukkons in AO (in game anyway), so he could of been able to possess glukkons the whole time...?

***Xavier*** · #49 05-26-2009, 05:40 AM

I don't know...

Glukkons could:

Perhaps be possessed by Abe in AO, Abe simply never got the opportunity
Perhaps have a stronger mind then the Sligs (partially forged during their alchemical era)

Bullet Magnet · #50 05-26-2009, 05:49 AM

He can get Vykkers and Interns too, don't forget.

By any of these logics, what Stranger races might he be able to possess?

MA · #51 05-26-2009, 05:54 AM

i dont think it has anything to do with his scars. i always thought it was just he learns to possess more complex or different creatures as he progresses in the game, teaching himself. i mean he must have possesed hundreds of sligs, i'm sure this would improve his psychic abilites.

just what Nate said.

***Xavier*** · #52 05-26-2009, 06:03 AM

Yup, what Nate said...

... and by that logic I would say he can posses every creature of SW, with the possible exception of the Oktigi.

**JayDee** · #53 05-26-2009, 06:03 AM

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I don't know...

Perhaps be possessed by Abe in AO, Abe simply never got the opportunity

this is probably true seen as how abe never got the chance in AO without getting shot

Crashpunk · #54 05-26-2009, 08:51 AM

All the Glukkons were in the boardroom, not walking around Rupture Farms, I'll give the Glukkons a point for playing it safe

I would love to Possess a Fleech

Bullet Magnet · #55 05-26-2009, 10:18 AM

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... and by that logic I would say he can posses every creature of SW, with the possible exception of the Oktigi.

It's just that I think by now the only reason he does not possess mudokons is gameplay, perhaps respect or care for their safety (we have no idea what the long-term effects of possession might be). Glukkons and sligs tended to be portrayed as highly disposable resources (Glukkons less so in MO) and less than people. But in SW both Clakkers and Grubbs are portrayed very much as genuine inhabitants of Oddworld with their own lives and cares. Outlaws and Wolvarks are just as disposable as before, but they feel much more like living, intelligent creatures than anyone in MO and I cared about them more. Probably as aspect of improved gameplay but perhaps also because I usually tried to keep outlaws alive?

The upshot is that I can't imagine possessing any SW creatures quite as well as I can possessing the golden oldies.

***Xavier*** · #56 05-26-2009, 10:25 AM

I think I understand... would "safe" dispossession (aka non exploding one) be ok for the SW creatures?

MeechMunchie · #57 05-26-2009, 11:24 AM

I think Abe can't/doesn't posess Mudokons, Clakkers etc. because of the sort of emotional trauma it would inflict on them after he depossesed them. How would you feel if you regained conciousness knowing that some guy could have just made you do anything? Sligs, on the other hand, are pretty stupid, Glukkons near-emotionless, and Scrabs and Paramites are just animals. Obviously this doesn't answer everything, but I'm just chucking this into the thoughtpool.

Crashpunk · #58 05-26-2009, 12:16 PM

this is a question that make you go hmmmmm.

joshkrz · #59 05-26-2009, 12:23 PM

but if abe and his fellow mudokons can possess others, im sure they would of learnt how to block others from possesing them

i say we get an oddworld inhabitance representitive here, he will tell us

AlexFili · #60 05-26-2009, 01:19 PM

Not all de-possession is explosive. Note the animal possession in AE and the Glukkon possessions in MO. I think Abe purposely kills whoever he de-possesses if it's someone evil, hence the laugh at the end.