Oddworld Forums > Zulag Two > Off-Topic Discussion


 
Thread Tools
 
  #31  
08-06-2008, 02:09 AM
Carnix's Avatar
Carnix
Outlaw Shooter
 
: Jul 2007
: A magical place
: 1,482
Rep Power: 19
Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)

:
who built piramides
sp- Pyramids
:
Nothing is 100% EVER
I very recently finished downloading a large complicated program. None of it was missing or incorrect therefore it was downloaded 100%

I didn't bother reading very much further beside skimming the posts but altogether while the thought is a clever one Alienmagi is not a clever one.
This thread is full of philosophical debates witch I don't think you're answering very well. Maybe this is not true, maybe I'm just confused by all the idiots who're filling your thread up with jokes and spam.
If that last bit confused you, you're about where I am...

Ok, back into something related that I can understand: PROVING THE EXISTANCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD!
I do not consider myself to be christian because it all seems to me like superstitious bullcrap but I can prove the unexplainable.
You see, for something to exist all you need is for just one person to believe it does because, once they do, it exists within their mind and imagination. I know (well I think I know) that there are thousands of people who believe that God exists and through this they are causing him to exist!
Deny it if you want (that's what philosophy's about) but you know I'm right.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #32  
08-06-2008, 02:14 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

:
all the idiots who're filling your thread up with jokes and spam.
Probably that made this thread useless.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
08-06-2008, 02:18 AM
OddjobAbe's Avatar
OddjobAbe
National Treasure
 
: Feb 2007
: England
: 3,121
Blog Entries: 100
Rep Power: 24
OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)OddjobAbe  (5874)

:
Deny it if you want (that's what philosophy's about) but you know I'm right.
I deny it (however true it may be). The real question to ponder is, does he really exist? He may exist in people's imagination, but we need to think scientifically - does he actually exist in the real world?

I think not, but because of my position, I am obligated to explore all possibilities.

:
Probably that made this thread useless.
The jokes and spam probably wouldn't have been there if you had made a minor adjustment - 'Logical answers from anyone that can help properly and not just one person'.
__________________
A man walks into a zoo. There's nothing there but one dog. It was a shih-tzu.


Last edited by OddjobAbe; 08-06-2008 at 02:21 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #34  
08-06-2008, 02:23 AM
Munch's Master's Avatar
Munch's Master
Outlaw Mortar
 
: Mar 2005
: England
: 1,815
Blog Entries: 20
Rep Power: 22
Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)

:
You're worse than a Magic Eight ball. >:C
This has been bugging me recently- what is the Magic 8 Ball off? Can't remember for the life of me.

AlienMagi, you can answer this if you want. It's an honest question, incredibly.
__________________


Fuzzle Guy: Apart from going swimming I've never been more wet in my life than when I went to see Take That.

Reply With Quote
  #35  
08-06-2008, 02:25 AM
Carnix's Avatar
Carnix
Outlaw Shooter
 
: Jul 2007
: A magical place
: 1,482
Rep Power: 19
Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)Carnix  (553)

Magic 8 ball is a toy
Gives random answers to yes no questions
It's "off" the shelves in a dodgy shop
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #36  
08-06-2008, 02:54 AM
Bullet Magnet's Avatar
Bullet Magnet
Bayesian Empirimancer
 
: Apr 2006
: Greatish Britain
: 7,724
Blog Entries: 130
Rep Power: 30
Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)

I challenge AlienMagi's personal definition of "logic".
__________________
| (• ◡•)|  (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)

Reply With Quote
  #37  
08-06-2008, 03:42 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

Challenge accepted
Reply With Quote
  #38  
08-06-2008, 03:48 AM
mudling's Avatar
mudling
Outlaw Sniper
 
: Jan 2005
: Sydney
: 1,631
Rep Power: 22
mudling  (123)mudling  (123)

No one can disprove the existance of God, because, if according to an athiest God did not exist, how do you prove something doesn't exist?
But going on from what Carnix said, our world is what we view of it, we uphold science to be truth, but wasn't spontanious generiation once part of science? I can garuantee you that the majority of scientific theories we believe in today are wrong, if not completly correct, yet we attack anyone who doesn't believe in them.
And seriously, is the big bang theories any more ridiclious than religeon (if you consider religeon ridiclious at all, which I don't, but I'm sure others do), it goes against the basic laws of science after all.
So anyways, this world, is what we view of it, everything we see and hear, is from our perspective, but what if someone we saw, felt and experianced didn't apply to someone else? What if we lived in a completly different world than someone else? And what if someone controlled this world?
This question was presented in the matrix, but the fact that our brains are in fact beyond our control, that we apparently think, feel and love because of chemicals going through our brains in quite frightening, and what dictates us to do this, is it chance, is all of this chance?
I present these questions to everyone.
I think only asking Alien Magi is too much for him, or anyone.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #39  
08-06-2008, 04:17 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

Too much for me? Never!
God does exist in people's mind but god would never be able to control the planet, to rule the world! I can just pick up M4 and go shooting people and no god is going to stop me (just telling what happned in GTA 4). Also when you die there is no heaven or hell or something. When you die - you die you are not here anymore. Like teleporting away from everything. We are again at teleports oh yeah but I still don't have a freakin idea about them! Anyway if heaven would exst we would crash with planes into it. So there is no heaven. I've been watching kind of a movie when someone always had sex every night
and when he died 'god' sent him to hell for that. BULLSHIT why is having sex every night a crime? It's just making yourself happy! Anyway if there was hell we would notice so there is no hell,(except in people's brain). It's also a question what faith we are talking about. For example thoose muslims are even more idiotic than me!
Why? Their story: Once there was an idiot called Mohamed who thought he would look like god's friend or somethin' if he would start telling people crappy stories about some kind of a god Alah. Yeah he made his dream but wtf now? NOW WARS.
Yeah? Yeah. MOST of all wars begin with FAITH. Thats why I think faith should not exist.
No offense mudling but if there would be no faith there would be less wars.
Ah and we are again at logical explanations : How did they make god up?
Logical answer: Cave people (about 14.000 years ago) when there was a storm and a light they made out god that's angry on them with thoose lightnings. In middle age, when peasants had some bad luck and wolf came and ate all his animals he thought he has done something bad so god has his revenge. Actually there is more and more unbelievers every year. Yeah thats right. People in the war who were praying it to be over got themselves their punishment. They should go help and shoot not just sit on knees and hold a cross in hands! Bullet Magnet if you have anything better - say it now!

AlienMagi
Reply With Quote
  #40  
08-06-2008, 04:53 AM
Wil's Avatar
Wil
Oddworld Administrator
Oddworld Inhabitant
 
: Apr 2001
: UK
: 13,534
Blog Entries: 39
Rep Power: 40
Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)

Huh, I thought Magic Eight Ball was a reference to the chap who used to hang about in OddChat.

:E
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #41  
08-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

Am I destined to be with Max the Mug?
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #42  
08-06-2008, 05:24 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

Fuzzle guy it's actually up to you if you will be with Max the Mug...
There is no logical answer I could say here...
Reply With Quote
  #43  
08-06-2008, 05:26 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

It's not up to me though. He’s taking me out to dinner next week, and he won’t take no for an answer.
__________________


Last edited by Fuzzle Guy; 08-06-2008 at 05:29 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #44  
08-06-2008, 05:28 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

In that case you have to make him like you.
If you need any suggestions I first need to know in what way you want him...
Reply With Quote
  #45  
08-06-2008, 05:30 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

Elumraep?
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #46  
08-06-2008, 05:34 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

Hmmm I can imagine what that means...
You should first spend more time with him :P
Then you'll see what and how about next...
I can't give you any further info. I'm actually an eremite
Reply With Quote
  #47  
08-06-2008, 05:38 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

Me too. Lets go out. Ignore Max. He means nothing to me.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #48  
08-06-2008, 05:40 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

LoL but I am an eremite really.
Anyway as you wish, but I'll remain here so I can answer my Logical Questions
Reply With Quote
  #49  
08-06-2008, 05:40 AM
Wil's Avatar
Wil
Oddworld Administrator
Oddworld Inhabitant
 
: Apr 2001
: UK
: 13,534
Blog Entries: 39
Rep Power: 40
Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)

I’ve been trying from day one to make this relationship work, Fuzzle Guy. It’s you who keeps blocking me out. I just can’t imagine how much more attention I can give you, but you never reciprocate. If you don’t start soon, this whole thing will be over, and I’ll be leaving you.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #50  
08-06-2008, 05:42 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

Bai.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #51  
08-06-2008, 05:42 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

Sexual relationship is off topic here...
Reply With Quote
  #52  
08-06-2008, 05:43 AM
Wil's Avatar
Wil
Oddworld Administrator
Oddworld Inhabitant
 
: Apr 2001
: UK
: 13,534
Blog Entries: 39
Rep Power: 40
Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)

Don’t think I’m gonna come crawling back to you, honey. I’ve found somebody else, somebody who’s fifty times the person you’ll ever be. Good luck, mister. You’re a high-maintenance whore, and no one will put up with you. Now give me your watch as part of the settlement.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #53  
08-06-2008, 05:45 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

I will put up with him :P
Reply With Quote
  #54  
08-06-2008, 05:47 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

Yes, it is a nice watch isn't it

And AlienMagi, I'm not settling for some Middle class whore.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #55  
08-06-2008, 05:49 AM
Munch's Master's Avatar
Munch's Master
Outlaw Mortar
 
: Mar 2005
: England
: 1,815
Blog Entries: 20
Rep Power: 22
Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)Munch's Master  (745)

Hey, no need to get snappy FG, just cause Max has found someone else.

Speaking of which, Max, what time do you want to go to the movies tonight?
__________________


Fuzzle Guy: Apart from going swimming I've never been more wet in my life than when I went to see Take That.

Reply With Quote
  #56  
08-06-2008, 05:49 AM
AlienMagi
Clakker Relic Miner
 
: Aug 2007
: In the dark
: 830
Blog Entries: 5
Rep Power: 18
AlienMagi  (118)AlienMagi  (118)

:
Yes, it is a nice watch isn't it

And AlienMagi, I'm not settling for some Middle class whore.
Hmm thanx for your compliment -,-
Reply With Quote
  #57  
08-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Wil's Avatar
Wil
Oddworld Administrator
Oddworld Inhabitant
 
: Apr 2001
: UK
: 13,534
Blog Entries: 39
Rep Power: 40
Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)Wil  (9443)

Come and pick me up at eight. I’ll be ready. I’ve got a surprise for you afterwards!
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #58  
08-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

:
Hey, no need to get snappy FG, just cause Max has found someone else.

Speaking of which, Max, what time do you want to go to the movies tonight?
Yeah well... well... I've found someone else to.

His name is MeechShrykull1029.

You never had a surprise for me afterwards
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #59  
08-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Bullet Magnet's Avatar
Bullet Magnet
Bayesian Empirimancer
 
: Apr 2006
: Greatish Britain
: 7,724
Blog Entries: 130
Rep Power: 30
Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)Bullet Magnet  (8784)

It's time to step in and break this horse.

:
No one can disprove the existance of God, because, if according to an athiest God did not exist, how do you prove something doesn't exist?
You can never prove that something does not exist without positive evidence for something contrary. No amount of not finding evidence for something is evidence that it does not exist, since it is not evidence for anything at all. Still, having to evidence is consistent with something not existing, but if it is also consistent with any theory, then you also know that you're on to something bogus.

:
But going on from what Carnix said, our world is what we view of it, we uphold science to be truth, but wasn't spontanious generiation once part of science? I can garuantee you that the majority of scientific theories we believe in today are wrong, if not completly correct, yet we attack anyone who doesn't believe in them.
Science is not the truth. Discovering the truth is not the goal of science, since with the scientific method we would never know that we got something right even if we did. It may be supported by mountains of evidence, but we're always trying to falsify our theories by testing them. That is how science progresses. The goal of science is to produce working models of the universe. theories that can make predictions about what we will observe in the field of an experiment. These models do not necessarily tell us what is actually occurring, but the are the best explanations we have, based on the available evidence. Which other "alternative" ideas emphatically are not, which their usefulness within the confines of reality reflects.

:
And seriously, is the big bang theories any more ridiclious than religeon (if you consider religeon ridiclious at all, which I don't, but I'm sure others do), it goes against the basic laws of science after all.
No. No. Emphatically no, the Big Bang theory is not ridiculous, nor does it go against the laws of science. The folk understanding of it, on the other hand, now that's another story.

:
So anyways, this world, is what we view of it, everything we see and hear, is from our perspective, but what if someone we saw, felt and experianced didn't apply to someone else? What if we lived in a completly different world than someone else? And what if someone controlled this world?
Then different things would occur than those we observe (using the scientific meaning of the word "observe" which is not confined to human senses or subjective experience).

:
This question was presented in the matrix, but the fact that our brains are in fact beyond our control, that we apparently think, feel and love because of chemicals going through our brains in quite frightening, and what dictates us to do this, is it chance, is all of this chance?
I present these questions to everyone.
First we must define chance. The only truly random events are quantum (such as the decay of a radioactive atom), as far as modern science can tell. All others are a result of most, if not all, of the events that have come before it, right down to the basic interaction of particles. But in different fields of science, different events can be considered, practically and functionally, random as far as that level of science is concerned. Such as mutations, or rolling a die. Quantum physics can only predict occurrences in terms of probability, with throws into doubt this deterministic interpretation of the universe, at least at the fundamental level. The more accurately you measure the velocity of a quantum particle such as an electron, the more uncertain its position becomes. There have been experiments that have measured the effect of an electron meeting itself coming the other way, and if that can't drive home the strangeness of science, nothing can. Fortunately, since large groups of particles do not tend to move as one, these effects dissipate on large scales and the behaviour of the universe becomes more familiar, and more deterministic. The disparity is one we hope to solve by finding a grand unified theory of everything.

The evolution of the human brain was not chance, that's a result of natural selection and unconscious selective breeding by ourselves. Brains and minds become more complex when they interact with complex things, and what could be more complex than other people's minds? The increase in intelligence throughout human evolution has been somewhat a positive feedback loop.

Personally, I don't find the idea that our feelings, our minds, are simply a product of biochemical reactions frightening at all. It is what I have thought for a long time. There is no reason that mundane matter is not capable of extraordinary things when in particular, naturally occuring arrangements without the addition of an extraordinary ingredient, like spirit or soul. These are superfluous additions to our understanding of the human mind. The Science of Discworld II, Figments of Reality and The Privileged Ape address these ideas thoroughly, so Nate and WoF are excused.

In short, the mind can be described as what it is like to be a brain. Feelings and impressions such as the colour red or the emotion of anger are termed "quales". We cannot quantitatively measure quales nor qualitatively examine them, as they exist only as biochemical and bio-electrical interactions within the unique structure of a portion of the person in question's brain. Translating them is currently beyond our ability, and may always be. We have no idea what makes quales so vivid, though we know where the experience occurs in the brain. Even if it were possible to turn brain activity into clear pictures of what someone is thinking, the same technique would not work on another person. Their brains have a different, unique structure, a different way of tackling the world and subtly different thought patterns. Experience another person's thoughts would be gibberish.

This is because we are shaped by our experiences, they mould us and made us who we are, who we are going to be. Literally, they change the way our brains tackle problems and come up with solutions, way way new connections form in one person when exposed to a stimulus will be different from those formed in another exposed t the same stimulus, because of their different experiences up to that point. They also started from different points, which is where genetics and the unique developmental conditions in their mother's wombs come into play.

This throws into question the notion of free will. Or rather our definition of it. While we certainly have will and are free to follow them, it doesn't quite amount to what we expect or hope it would. Certainly our minds give us the very vivid impression of free will, but nothing more substantial than that. You receive an input via your senses and the output is your subsequent response. The process is your mind. How free is your will? Your actions are biased from the start, due to the particular input. I don't think anyone will argue that is a bad thing. The process itself is shaped by our past experiences, what has happened to us before, or what we have seen happen to other people, regardless of whether it has any relation to the current event. We don't make choices, we make judgements. We judge the best response out of those we might make, and follow through. Rewind time, and you will make the same choice again and again: the cause of your decisions are the same after all.

Notice how people's behaviour is based on the conviction that they have free will, but no one else does. If Alcar started spamming or starting unfathomable topics, we don't say "Oh, Alcar is expressing his free will." We say "What the devil has got into Alcar?" and search for an adequate explanation. Based on our own experiences and understanding of Alcar, we may quickly home in on the explanation that he has altered his normal brain chemistry and thus function due to the liberal application of ethanol.

Novel inspiration is a more difficult to explain, by nature experiments with inspiration cannot be repeated. Something better understood but no less interesting are the bizarre, irrational responses to stimuli utterly outside our experiences. Many a lab animal has engaged in irrational grooming when faced with such stimuli, and people are no less vulnerable. Walk into a corner shop wearing a dress, seemingly not noticing yourself, and see how the owner reacts. A small town shop, the country may be hostile and the city will be used to it.

Though it really doesn't matter what we say about free will, business will continue on as usual. We like the way we think regardless of the mechanisms, and if we truly have free will we will keep doing our thing, if we don't, there's no option not to. In either case, our instincts, which have the final say (ultimate veto power against free will?), are too strong to let us tear our society apart over any sort of revelation.
__________________
| (• ◡•)|  (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)


Last edited by Bullet Magnet; 08-06-2008 at 05:52 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #60  
08-06-2008, 05:51 AM
Fuzzle Guy's Avatar
Fuzzle Guy
Outlaw Flamer
 
: Apr 2003
: Greater London, UK
: 2,634
Blog Entries: 17
Rep Power: 25
Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)Fuzzle Guy  (2482)

God BM. How offtopic.
__________________

Reply With Quote


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 








 
 
- Oddworld Forums - -