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Oh for fucks sake I swore I wouldn't cry like I did last time.
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Needs less fairy tale bollocks.

Maybe the new season will be more gritty. Also simpler, call me thick but I had no idea what was going on half the time.
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You're seriously saying that series 7 wasn't gritty? Sure, Moffat had a load of fairy-tale esque bollocks but that's his speciality (maybe thats why all his christmas episodes are horrible), but there was also lots of horror. Specifically, Crimson. That was a great gritty episode.

I do hope that the new series will be less childish, maybe an older Doctor will help that.
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It just didn't seem to stand out as particularly amazing. I just wish they would be consistent with the actual danger different aliens pose. One minute Daleks are terrifying, the next you can kill them by the bucket load, one moment you blow up a planet if you see one cyberman and then they drop like flies. Oh and you can have the head of one as a pet.
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No it wasn't amazing, it was a piss-poor episode, but consistency with the monsters is and was never an issue. Daleks are terrifying when you have no guns, and the head of the Cyberman, if you were listening was cleared out.
And what's the difference between them dropping like flies and blowing up a planet? They were a threat, so they must be eliminated by any means necessary. If you have better weapons which can kill them why blow up a planet?
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Daleks are supposed to be scary full stop, the whole 'four daleks is enough to destroy the world,' thing that the Cult of Skaro played on, those four were just as dangerous as an entire fleet. The cybermen are supposed to upgrade whenever they encounter a new danger which was supposed to be the big new twist that actually made them an enemy you don't laugh at but they still were absolutely shit today.
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I didn't watch it. But I heard it was very anti-climatic.
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It wasn't terrible, but it was just pretty boring and average. Wasn't exactly The Parting of the Ways.
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It was corny and lame in a way that I can forgive it for because it was a Christmas episode. It was different from a regular episode, and it tied up all of the stupid shit from the last few seasons. I was glad to see Smith take his death better than Tennant did. It still dragged on a bit, but in a much more forgivable way. I'm keen to see a new Doctor in action, because honestly Smith was just Tennant again.

I watched the 50th today too. It wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than anything else Moffat has written recently. He can do amazing things with that extra time. I liked the way they played with the younger Doctor seeming older, and they really did a good job of pulling gravity into Hurt's decision. There was definitely some fanservice in there, but the bits that were actually contributing to the episode where generally really well done. The scenes in the gallery with the statues were scary and the premise of the monsters was pretty good. I feel like that subplot needed to be there, even if it was totally forgotten by the end of the episode.

I was ready for the 3 Doctors to push the button and destroy everything, erasing Moffat and Tennant, and leaving Hurt to regenerate into the new guy. I've liked Clara, but my god she was asking for a slap when she opened her big mouth in there. The ending could have been more dramatic, and the conclusion didn't totally make sense.

Also, what was up with the Doctor aging so much in 300 years in the Christmas episode? Wasn't there 400 between the start and end of the last season?

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I just watched it and I did enjoy it. But yeah, it wasn't perfect.

The plot was forgettable, I think we were all watching it wanting the regeneration to happen. This is why I personally think, they shouldn't reveal anything about the episode prior to it being shown. I like the shock factor.

The regeneration was well... Different.

I enjoyed it way more than Tennant's because we all knew that was just so bloody dragged out.

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So a big crack came out of nowhere and gave the Doctor a new cycle of regenerations. Which were granted by the Time Lords as an act to save him. I had a feeling they would do this... Just not in that way. The actual regeneration itself was great to watch. I'm unsure why each regeneration keeps getting more and more explosive. This one was like a fucking nuke!

Although I didn't fall for it, I thought it was clever how they tricked us into thinking the Doctor had already regenerated into Peter Capaldi's Doctor after the explosion happened. But nope. 11 was still there but we still knew he was going to change and after a few visual reminders like Amy Pond and Fish Fingers and Custard and the Bow tie falling to the ground. I was ready for the explosion. But then suddenly he jerks his head back and BAM! new Doctor. A lot of people thought it was anti-climatic, But I thought it was a good homage to the original Dr Who regenerations, How they quickly changed.
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It was corny and lame in a way that I can forgive it for because it was a Christmas episode. It was different from a regular episode, and it tied up all of the stupid shit from the last few seasons. I was glad to see Smith take his death better than Tennant did. It still dragged on a bit, but in a much more forgivable way. I'm keen to see a new Doctor in action, because honestly Smith was just Tennant again.
Well, he was at first, but from series 6 onwards, I really warmed to him and he became his own doctor.

I liked how Tennants regeneration dragged on, they milked it, but it was great. Tennant was an emotional doctor, and I think his regeneration showed that at it's most extreme.
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I watched the 50th today too. It wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than anything else Moffat has written recently. He can do amazing things with that extra time. I liked the way they played with the younger Doctor seeming older, and they really did a good job of pulling gravity into Hurt's decision. There was definitely some fanservice in there, but the bits that were actually contributing to the episode where generally really well done. The scenes in the gallery with the statues were scary and the premise of the monsters was pretty good. I feel like that subplot needed to be there, even if it was totally forgotten by the end of the episode.

I was ready for the 3 Doctors to push the button and destroy everything, erasing Moffat and Tennant, and leaving Hurt to regenerate into the new guy. I've liked Clara, but my god she was asking for a slap when she opened her big mouth in there. The ending could have been more dramatic, and the conclusion didn't totally make sense.
Yeah, I do like Clara, but, she isn't even really a character. She changes all the time and has no solid personality. Try and find one word that defines her and is consistent.

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Also, what was up with the Doctor aging so much in 300 years in the Christmas episode? Wasn't there 400 between the start and end of the last season?
Yeah, there's loads of plotholes there. Like you said, he ages like 400 years in series 6. And what about the first doctor? Was he just born an old man? Benjamin Button syndrome. Saying that, the doctors do seem to be getting younger and younger. I can't wait to see more of Capaldi, he'll probably bring something fresh to the series, especially considering it's got a new writer now.

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The plot was forgettable, I think we were all watching it wanting the regeneration to happen. This is why I personally think, they shouldn't reveal anything about the episode prior to it being shown. I like the shock factor.
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The regeneration was well... Different.
I liked it. All the old regenerations happened differently, and even the doctor said he had a new regeneration cycle.

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So a big crack came out of nowhere
Um, series 5? The TARDIS exploding? The cracks never fully went away.

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I'm unsure why each regeneration keeps getting more and more explosive. This one was like a fucking nuke
I'm guessing it's because of how big of an impact the incarnations make on the Doctor, and also how long they spent as that incarnation, and what the future one will be like. Matt was the Doctor for like a thousand years which makes him the longest incarnation, it was bound to be explosive.

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Although I didn't fall for it, I thought it was clever how they tricked us into thinking the Doctor had already regenerated into Peter Capaldi's Doctor after the explosion happened. But nope. 11 was still there but we still knew he was going to change and after a few visual reminders like Amy Pond and Fish Fingers and Custard and the Bow tie falling to the ground
I totally fell for it, and I was outraged that Matt got such a horrible regeneration, he didn't exactly die a hero. But yeah, totally fooled me, he had his speech like all Doctors do, and it was really sad, especially when the bow tie fell, no matter how overused.
I'm actually kind of disappointed that Amy made such a big impact on the Doctor, she was a horrible companion.

Also, it's kind of weird, Matt only had a few companions but Dave had loads of them, even though when you think about it, they had the same amount of series'.

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I was ready for the explosion. But then suddenly he jerks his head back and BAM! new Doctor. A lot of people thought it was anti-climatic, But I thought it was a good homage to the original Dr Who regenerations, How they quickly changed.
Well the climax had already happened, we just thought that it'd be straight into Capaldi. I like the new regeneration cycle, it wasn't really a homage though, older regenerations weren't like that.

And finally, for anyone who thinks Tennants regeneration was dragged out, go watch the Fourth Doctor's. Logopolis is a great episode.
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I'm like, the only person who still likes Amy, right?
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Yeah, I disliked Amy from the start. Rory end up being better in my eyes in the last few episodes they were both in.

And Nep. I knew what the cracks were. But I meant it like it just 'appeared' at the right time.
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I thought Amy was pretty cool when she was very first introduced, but then she went downhill real quickly. She was most tolerable to me when Rory was also around but even then I found it very difficult to like her.

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Rory was a really good companion, and so was his dad.
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Amy was a sluuuuuuuuut.
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Yeah but guys Amy Pond is fucking hot.
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Yeah but she has an irritating accent :{
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I was hoping the 12th Doctor's series plot would be an epic journey to find a magical macguffin that lets him extend past the regeneration deadline. Probably something from the Sisterhood of Karn. Golden particley breath just seemed a bit too easy. Oh well.

On the whole I thought it was pretty good. Wrapping up four seasons of plots in two sentences was a bit crap, though.
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Yeah but guys Amy Pond is fucking hot.
You can be hot and unlikeable

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Yeah, you definitely got that unlikeable bit down.

Might want to work on the hot part, though

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Yeah, except the hot part.
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Golden particley breath just seemed a bit too easy. Oh well.
Time lords have always been able to grant more regenerations. Haven't you watched the Five Doctors?
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Yeah, except the hot part.

Time lords have always been able to grant more regenerations. Haven't you watched the Five Doctors?
I haven't. But I did know that they could grant more regenerations (what with The Master and all). I just wanted it to be something a bit grander and more difficult to acheive than some sparkly lights.
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I know what you mean. But isn't talking the "easy way out" Moffat's thing?
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12-26-2013, 08:08 PM
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I thought his thing was taking the hard way out in an oversimplified way?
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Isn't that the same thing?
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