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Elmatto753 · #**301** 02-13-2011, 06:13 AM

Seeing as the teleporter would remember your molecular structure, break you down and transmit that information elsewhere for reconstruction, that information could be used to make copies of you or other objects later.

MeechMunchie · #**302** 02-13-2011, 06:19 AM

Maybe. Teleportaiton consists of deconstuction at one end and exact reconstruction at the other, so it's probably best just to be used for inanimate objects. A living organism would run the risk of arriving at the other end as a corpse. Even if it wouldn't, I hope everyone says it does, just so no-one tries to use it themselves. After all, they'd still die, there'd just be a clone arriving in their place. That shit's too heavy for my liking. Plus everyone would have to copyright their body.

I watched The Prestige, you may have noticed.

Elmatto753 · #**303** 02-13-2011, 06:25 AM

For the copies idea, you could just (making it sound simple) have the exact configuration of your body scanned into a computer without the deconstruction part. This information could be used to make copies of you or an object. If it did come out dead, you'd have to find a way of getting the electrical charge back into a new body.

LDG519 · #**304** 02-13-2011, 12:29 PM

we could make several million clones of stephan hawking

Elmatto753 · #**305** 02-13-2011, 01:29 PM

Or we could combine informations and put his brain in Cameron Diaz's body.

***Nate*** · #**306** 02-13-2011, 04:48 PM

Yes, precisely. It would essentially be a perfect 3d photocopier, not a teleporter.

Coincidentally enough, I watched this video barely minutes before opening this thread and seeing the direction that the conversation had turned.

Dixanadu · #**307** 02-13-2011, 05:23 PM

Jeff Goldblum should work on the teleporter.

Bullet Magnet · #**308** 02-14-2011, 06:45 AM

Consider a state-of-the-art computer. Consider your use of it on a day to day basis.

Now consider entrusting it to recreate your body without errors.

Human teleportation will go bust fairly quickly.

MA · #**309** 02-14-2011, 10:29 AM

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we could make several million clones of stephan hawking

is that his French nephew?

LDG519 · #**310** 02-14-2011, 12:50 PM

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is that his French nephew?

what? stephan hawking is the scientists that has that cool robot voice thing because he cant talk himself anymore

MA · #**311** 02-14-2011, 02:07 PM

never heard of him.

LDG519 · #**312** 02-14-2011, 08:53 PM

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never heard of him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

Phylum · #**313** 02-14-2011, 11:45 PM

What?

STM · #**314** 02-15-2011, 09:07 AM

Oh, you mean Stevie boy, good old Stevie.

LDG519 · #**315** 02-16-2011, 11:06 PM

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What?

oops meant stephen hawking, my bad

Bullet Magnet · #**316** 02-17-2011, 06:34 AM

I would like to congratulate all of you on the efficient means of spell-checking you collectively invented. You certainly saved time.

MA · #**317** 02-17-2011, 11:46 AM

such a bastard.

hang on. you're not Max.

Mac Sirloin · #**318** 02-17-2011, 03:41 PM

Wait, wouldn't Teleportation work without the whole 'dying on one end' thing if they were somehow able to transmit the brain/brainwaves in a sort of secure...beam? It'll happen, just you watch.

Anyway, I think preserved brains implanted into synthetic bodies capable of keeping them alive indefinitely would be the way to go for space travel. Because I'm such a master of the subject.

Wings of Fire · #**319** 02-17-2011, 05:09 PM

I read a Stephen King short story once where they beat the problem of teleportation by keeping everyone unconscious throughout the process. One kid doesn't inhale the sleep gas and his consciousness moves through space time and out the other end before he wakes up. Then claws his eyes out.

It was charming really.

***Nate*** · #**320** 02-17-2011, 05:45 PM

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Wait, wouldn't Teleportation work without the whole 'dying on one end' thing if they were somehow able to transmit the brain/brainwaves in a sort of secure...beam? It'll happen, just you watch.

That's all part of recording (and recreating) the quantam state of the body's atoms. We're all just a collection of chemical reactions, after all.

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I read a Stephen King short story once where they beat the problem of teleportation by keeping everyone unconscious throughout the process. One kid doesn't inhale the sleep gas and his consciousness moves through space time and out the other end before he wakes up. Then claws his eyes out.

It was charming really.

But... but... how does your consciousness work when your brain has been split in to its component atoms?

Wings of Fire · #**321** 02-17-2011, 06:34 PM

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But... but... how does your consciousness work when your brain has been split in to its component atoms?

I think the explanation basically boiled down to blah blah blah void on that one.

LDG519 · #**322** 02-17-2011, 11:37 PM

I was just reading stephen hawking's view on time travel

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...e-machine.html

and I've come up with a ceack pot theory which bullet magnet will most likely destroy in such a way that it will feel like he printed it out and used it for toilet paper, but I shall say it anyway

stephen hawking sais that there are wormholes that connect 2 locations of space and time, there just so incredibly tiny that not evan a single atom could pass through it, and expanding them would be ompossible because of universial feed back causeng the wormhole to be destroyed, but could it be possible to send a message through one of these wormholes and communicate with the past? and in the future when both the present and past location in question have teleporters (assuming people would be willing to use teleporters) would it be possable to send a teleporter signol through a wormhole to the past and time travel that way?

probably a dumb theory but I thought I might as well say it to find out.

Dixanadu · #**323** 02-18-2011, 01:22 AM

Sounds dumb enough.

Bullet Magnet · #**324** 02-18-2011, 05:24 AM

Except for all the details, it's more or less correct. Though if you want to have actual control over your destination, you have to create your own wormhole.

This is, many would say, impossible.

Wormholes large enough for macroscopic objects to pass through are very unstable, they require a force to keep them open. Ideally antigravity, exerted by some form of exotic matter.

This, many would say, is equally impossible.

Then you have to make sure that each opening is affixed to objects rather than points of space. Or else you would immediately lose your wormhole as the Earth spins away from it.

This is, many would now insist, absolutely impossible.

Now, affix one end to the inside of a spaceship and speed away from Earth, accelerating to near the speed of light. Due to special relativity, time passes for an object at speed slower than for an object that is relatively slower or stationary. As a result, a journey fifty light-years out and back (a round trip of 100 light-years) would take over one hundred years from the point of view of observers on Earth, but for the travellers on board with the wormhole, only a few years will have passed. The wormhole has only aged a few years, and subsequently the other side is the same age, too: one hundred years in the past.

This, it can be explained patiently, is also impossible.

As a result, the experimenters left on Earth (who may not live to see the space ship return) would know of their success when, only a few years in, their old colleagues and a bunch of their unborn descendants emerge from their wormhole to go back home and to see the world before they were born, respectively.

This, even if the rest were true, which it isn't, is patently impossible, say the doubters.

Both ends of the wormhole now move through time at the normal rate, but one century apart. There is now free travel between two points of human history one hundred years apart, benefiting humanity with the knowledge of one hundred years of future history, with all the causality violations and temporal cross-contamination of culture that this will bring.

This, many claim, is not merely impossible but clearly insane. Lunch, anyone?

Elmatto753 · #**325** 02-18-2011, 02:11 PM

Well, when time travelling always follow this simple rule: pass on the past, but fuck with the future.

Dixanadu · #**326** 02-19-2011, 01:12 AM

Is anyone aware of this Nibiru thing?

Pilot and I had a discussion on it a few days ago.

Phylum · #**327** 02-19-2011, 01:58 AM

Sounds like a load of ass to me.

For a while I thought it was quite funny how many doomsday events are predicted for 2012. I then realised that there are quite a few predicted every year and people are just noticing these ones more.

Dixanadu · #**328** 02-19-2011, 03:54 AM

True, that. It's annoying how a month long fad of 'the world is going to end' then nothing happens.

This, however, is something to be discussed. It was on television where it proved there is actually something out there, messing up the planet's magnetic fields and causing shit loads of disasters in recent years.

I'm in the middle, I don't believe it will happen till I see or hear more irrefutable evidence, but I'm not dismissing it as myth or superstition, either.

STM · #**329** 02-19-2011, 04:39 AM

I think the most worrying post apocalyptic possibility (besides 2011 as a religious date) would be the massive solar flare peak that is going to happen in May 2013 or something (maybe the Mayan's were a year out?) or that enormous asteroid that's going to sling round the Earth, is it called Aphosis or something? Meh, who cares. I'm pretty sure we'll make it, humanity is the Earth's terminal cancer if you will, there's no cure as of yet and we're spreading way to fast to be destroyed now any way.

Dixanadu · #**330** 02-19-2011, 04:46 AM

Nothing lasts forever, mah boi.

We'll evolve again, and be something better this time. Scales, hopefully.