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What is the Significance of the birds on the oddworld games.
I know they represent health, portals and shryskull powerups but is their any history to go with.
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Well firstly you have to understand that Mudokons evolved from birds, and share a very symbiotic and spiritual relationship with them. As for why we see them so often in the games, it's just the underlining of Oddworld. You know, like that red bag in The League of Gentlemen Series 3.
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they evolved from birds? tell me more, i'm interested.

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Well, they evolved from Birds. That's pretty much it. They still have lots of features left over from that stage in their existence, such as lightweight skulls and feathers.

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So thats why sum Muds have head feathers and arm feathers
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Yes. It's also why they don't appear to have teeth, and why their mouths can sometimes look like beaks. Although have you noticed that Mudokons evolved from birds to lizards, while on Earth evolution went the other way round (according to scientists, just in case you don't believe in evolution).
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birds to lizards???????
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Yes, Mudokons are very lizard-like. Although they have skin instead of scales and primate-like toes, I'm positive they're really cold blooded.

'Mammals', 'lizards' and 'insects' are such broad terms when talking about Oddworld.
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strange but interesting theory, but really if their cold blodded they would have to spend a lot of time just doing nothing in the sun to get warm
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I always thought Abe looked like a bird (sort of) but I never thought he evolved from one.
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Hmm I alweys thought Mudokins evolved from fish like creatures. They remind me of a fish by their mouths and bug eyes. Just like Glukkons could of evolved from some sort of Oddworld type octopus. And Vykkers remind me of crabs or some kind of shrimp or lobstar. I alweys thought races of Oddworld originated out of the sea which could explan why everyone wants to eat each other. But that bird theory is pretty cool.Maybe it was a combination of both?
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max, sorry if I didn't understood you very well but Mud's do have teeth... there is even one with a gold teeth in the uyi video clip

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Really? Can I see it?
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well... Alector, said it in one of her posts, so I believe it's true, I haven't got the CD yet

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its a good song
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Have you got a blueprint of the Mudokon skeleton, Xavier? We could have a look at that. Or should this be in the picture request? It is related to this topic exclusivly.
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no I don't... sorry
and this was the right place to ask for.

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That could help
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Although have you noticed that Mudokons evolved from birds to lizards, while on Earth evolution went the other way round (according to scientists, just in case you don't believe in evolution).
**WARNING: SPLITTING HAIRS AHEAD** Actually, both birds and lizards evolved from a common ancestor that had some bird qualities and some lizard qualities. You can't really call the ancestor (be it a dinosaur or another creature) a lizard or a bird
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Happy Mud's have teeth!

Yes Max, mudokons have teeth. I'm a bit shocked you didn't already know that. And yes, before you point it out, the mudokon skull sketch doesn't have teeth. I assume they fell out.

Proof (look closely at Alf):
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Aw, common guys haven't you seen that one video of the Mud head talking? I was gonna reply to this earlier but damn MSN kept freezing! Ok, like Khanz said Muds do have teeth. They have two herbavorish/buck teeth at the front of the upper jaw. The other set is some small (and again herbavorish) teeth segmented all over the bottom jaw. Add a small gizard somewhere above the stomache and the food is pretty much left to goo when it reaches the stomache.
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Yeah, the teeth are also quite noticeable in Abe's gamespeak on MO, too...
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Oddsville... no, I never saw it.
I have some screens of it. but I never saw the video
where can we find it?

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going of the subject of teeth slightly, Why is abe's mouth stitched up
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Abe's mouth was stitched up because he supposedly talked to much as a kid. But we all know the real reason was because they didn't want him chanting and discovering his gift.
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i actually didnt know that!
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that's why we have got some specialists here to tell you:
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thank god for specialists, dont u count yurself?
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they are better than me...
I'm only the picture specialist

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oh still yur pretty good
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