How has the closure of RuptureFarms 1027 effected the total Oddworld Economy

Al the Vykker · #1 12-30-2001, 01:38 PM

Here is an interesting question. How has the closure of Rupture Farms 1027 effected the overall Oddworldian economy?

Note your opinions are wanted here!!!!!

Eibu · #2 12-30-2001, 01:48 PM

It probably made a big dent but doesn't look like it hurt it too much...

An example of this is one I've just realized...now when I was little and global awareness was "in" they kept telling us about how our resources are dwindling and we need to conserve...well now I'm 18 and buying as much gas as I can now that it is under a buck...

It's like the Glukks get all worked up over one business but when it does go *Boom* (and not in the good way) by the next game they've gotten over it and industry marches on..

semi-spoiler
That's another aspect I liked about MO. How the Puds and Chumps are trying to start new companies. I think they should have been given more personality like names and a little CG treatment but that's just because I love FMV.

Steve · #3 12-30-2001, 01:52 PM

well would you feel safe if a presumibly strong company just shut down overnight.

SeaRex · #4 12-30-2001, 02:03 PM

I don't think it hurt the economy too much. After all, Rupture Farms was on the verge of going out of buisness anyway...

Al the Vykker · #5 12-30-2001, 02:06 PM

That is true plus they never sold the Mudokon Pops. And they had chopped up the other Oddworld creatures. This shows a perfect example of waste of resources.

[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: Al the vykker ]

•[cyrus]• · #6 12-30-2001, 02:31 PM

Well, for 1 opinion.......Its' made the species of creatures' last longer,

...Mudokon101

Al the Vykker · #7 12-30-2001, 04:57 PM

That is true, hey wait a minute it said that RuptureFarms picked up a bunch of the last Meeches so they might still be alive....

I felt like bringing this topic back, since alot of the discussion has been on the industrial part of Oddworld this would be a great asset to the discussions.

I am sorry for Double posting in this instance.

Al the Vykker · #8 08-07-2002, 06:23 PM

I felt like bringing this topic back, since alot of the discussion has been on the industrial part of Oddworld this would be a great asset to the discussions.

I am sorry for Double posting in this instance.

Pilot: No worries Al!

paramiteabe · #9 08-07-2002, 06:34 PM

When Rupture Farms shut down I don't really think it really brought the economy down as well. But I know that it was probabbally the beginning of a sort of recession on Oddworld. In the last movie in MO it states something on the condition of the economy. Maybe in future games we will start seeing some sort of magog Great Depression. Lanning stated a long time ago about how the Magog is changeing as we go. Now since a lot of the big industries have been shut down like Saul Storm Brewery and Vykkers Labs and many other industrial Titans, it makes me believe the economy is getting worse worse every time. A lot of industry is being shut down or destroyed so I believe by the end we will see some sort of Great Deppression on Mudos. Interesting thought at least.

Al the Vykker · #10 08-07-2002, 06:42 PM

It would be interesting to see how the Magog Cartel would act if there was a great depression on Mudos, but I do think Rupture Farms did have a part in the falling economy, Becuz the balance of power shifted, and the top exec began fighting for the top spot, then you have to figure all those top execs who got blown up. All that power went to incompatent glukkons that didnt know what they were doing.

Oddsville · #11 08-07-2002, 06:52 PM

Well we gotta remember that Rupture Farms 1027 was just one of tons upon tons of other Rupture Farms scattered all thourghout the contenet of Mudos not to mention the rest of Oddworld! But sience it was the biggest it did result in a dramatic change in the economy. The main change was fear, if a company was going to be destroyed by one measily Mudokon one would suspect that it would be on of the lesser Rupture Farms. When the public saw that this wasn't the case they quickly with drew stocks in Rupture Farms inc. and various other Magog industriys.

However the economy in total wasn't effected to bad. Even the Magog Cartel itself didn't suffer to bad aloss. But with the destruction of Soulstorm Brewerey and Vykkers Labs, the Magog and the Vykkers Conglomerate both started drastic mesures to save thier own hides. Once such measure is a huge reward for the capture of Abe and his new renagade partner Munch. Over all Abe and pals will have to cripple many other types of Conglomerates and Cartels to eventually start a huge loss in the economy.

Mac the Janitor · #12 08-07-2002, 09:15 PM

Well, my guess is that it didn't affect the global economy of Oddworld much, since it is Rupture Farms 1027, and that means that there are 1026 other RFs on Oddworld, maybe more. That's just my opinion, though. Maybe Alf will help us on this one.

-Mac

EDIT: It's just like a Circle K closing down in a decent-sized city.

***Xavier*** · #13 08-08-2002, 06:25 AM

the only thing I can say is that there is more and more panic inside the corporation but they never show it to the public that a mudokon is the cause.

When you play the game, the factories are more and more defended, more sligs and stuff.

In MO the whole story is being realy critical for the glukkons.

but affect economy? well like Oddsville said, I totally agree

molluck2 · #14 08-09-2002, 10:33 AM

well yes it didn't efect economy much, but in some ways it did for example:
The Magog Cartel lost a very important glukk- Molluck
At first glukks thought that SoulStorm Brewery would also go boom without Molluck, because he was very wise Glukkon though he made mistakes. So i think that economy was a bit efected but it was never shown in public

***Alcar*** · #15 08-09-2002, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
Well, my guess is that it didn't affect the global economy of Oddworld much, since it is Rupture Farms 1027, and that means that there are 1026 other RFs on Oddworld, maybe more. That's just my opinion, though. Maybe Alf will help us on this one.

-Mac

EDIT: It's just like a Circle K closing down in a decent-sized city.

As far as I remember Rupture Farms 1027 was the (in the words of Abe) "The biggest meat processing plant on oddworld".

But then again maybe Mullock was bragging about that particular Rupture Farms being the biggest.

Or Abe hadn't seen the rest of Mudos at that time, so how would he even know?

So many possibilites...

Alcar...

***Xavier*** · #16 08-09-2002, 12:27 PM

there are also possibilities for mini-RF's
so The big one we see is realy important, and CAN affect the Econnomy.

But I'm not a good economist

Al the Vykker · #17 08-09-2002, 12:54 PM

It seems that in the Board Room those other Glukkons were the head of other Rupture Farms, maybe the other Rupture farms were just small factories, and thats why they were all worried about Molluck's Factory because it said he was the CEO of Rupture Farms, not of just one it seems all of them, so his Impact would be felt by the other Execs.

***Xavier*** · #18 08-09-2002, 12:56 PM

that can be possible...
I realy want to see some little recyclers like the splinterz one, but for Rupture farms, with sligs puching scrabs or paramites in it

***Wil*** · #19 08-10-2002, 08:57 AM

Woah, major blunder, guys...

It's RuptureFarms 1029 that Abe shuts down, not 1027.

But I agree that, while its closure would hardly dent Oddworld's economy as a whole, it was a small disaster for the Magog Cartel, especially Maggie.

Oddsville · #20 08-10-2002, 07:37 PM

Max, always correcting our mistakes

Anyways seince Im pretty sure Munch's Exodduss will be the next game realeased in the Oddworld Quintology, Im guessing that once Abe and Munch get a couple more Magog Industrys then the Magog wil just then start losing some major stock, not to much but a significant amount.

Al the Vykker · #21 08-10-2002, 10:57 PM

I dont know I still think it made a large dent because All the other CEOs of the other Rupture Farms, were pretty scared when the profits were going down and they werent even in charge of this plant, the plant that Abe worked for had to be a major factory and one of the largest, meaning Molluck may have been in charge of All the Branches of Rupture Farms.

Danny · #22 08-11-2002, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Oddsville
Max, always correcting our mistakes

But not his own...

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Anyways seince Im pretty sure Munch's Exodduss will be the next game realeased in the Oddworld Quintology, Im guessing that once Abe and Munch get a couple more Magog Industrys then the Magog wil just then start losing some major stock, not to much but a significant amount.

I doubt that they will start attacking the Magog Cartel again, I think they will continue against the Vykkers Conglomerate. It makes sense that their primary enemy would be a different corporation in each game. Abe = Magog Cartel, Munch = Vykkers Conglomerate, etc.

Also, I don't think that the execs in the boardroom were the other Rupture Farms CEOs, I think they were more like investors in the company, IE the people who would be most affected by its shutdown.

Oh, and someone mentioned that Mullock is probably CEO of all the Rupture Farms. I'd like to point out that, in his profile on oddworld.com, it says that he is CEO of Rupture Farms 1029. http://www.oddworld.com/universe/ind...uck_stats.html

brewmaster · #23 08-11-2002, 11:20 AM

I think it affected all the Muds who are now out of work and the families of the sligs who were killed not to mention the deaths of Glukkons.

***Wil*** · #24 08-11-2002, 11:32 AM

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Max, always correcting our mistakes, but not his own...

Corrected.

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Also, I don't think that the execs in the boardroom were the other Rupture Farms CEOs, I think they were more like investors in the company, IE the people who would be most affected by its shutdown.

I'm pretty sure they're the Board of Executives. There are [8?] of them, Molluck not included. SoulStorm Brewery has its own Board of Executives, but we only see Aslik, Dripik and Phleg in it. I should think that the annual Board Meeting is one of the rare occassions where all the executives of a facility are together.

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Oh, and someone mentioned that Mullock is probably CEO of all the Rupture Farms. I'd like to point out that, in his profile on oddworld.com, it says that he is CEO of Rupture Farms 1029.

Molluck owns the entire RuptureFarms company, and probably a couple of others - perhaps many. How many he's actually directly in charge of - or rather was - isn't known.

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I think it affected...the families of the sligs who were killed.

Doubtful, especially considering Sligs don't have families - they are a super species and are mostly drones. For a creature who'd rip apart his work mates with hardly a care if ordered, I doubt they have real friends, either.

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It makes sense that their primary enemy would be a different corporation in each game. Abe = Magog Cartel, Munch = Vykkers Conglomerate, etc.

That would be rather boring. I should think Abe and Munch have their own desires of what to do rather than who to do it to. Abe tackles slavery, Munch tackles animal cruelty. I expect to see Abe freeing Mudokons from Vykkers installations and Munch battling Glukkon hunting reserves.

Danny · #25 08-11-2002, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
I'm pretty sure they're the Board of Executives. There are [8?] of them, Molluck not included. SoulStorm Brewery has its own Board of Executives, but we only see Aslik, Dripik and Phleg in it. I should think that the annual Board Meeting is one of the rare occassions where all the executives of a facility are together.

Then it would make sense that the three glukkon execs we hear talking about the boiler (after Phleg, Aslik, and Dripik are killed) are also member of the Board.

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Molluck owns the entire RuptureFarms company, and probably a couple of others - perhaps many. How many he's actually directly in charge of - or rather was - isn't known.

Only Rupture Farms 1029 and Soulstorm Brewery 401 (or whatever) are listed on his profile on oddworld.com.

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That would be rather boring.

I agree. Still, I would have said the same about repetitive kiddie-friendly platformers, which is why I think that, boring as it may be, each hero will have his own enemies...

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I should think Abe and Munch have their own desires of what to do rather than who to do it to. Abe tackles slavery, Munch tackles animal cruelty. I expect to see Abe freeing Mudokons from Vykkers installations and Munch battling Glukkon hunting reserves.

It didn't seem to me that Munch was that interested in Animal Welfare. It seemed more like he was simply freeing the fuzzles to help him survive and rescue the gabbiar...

***Wil*** · #26 08-11-2002, 03:14 PM

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Only Rupture Farms 1029 and Soulstorm Brewery 401 (or whatever) are listed on his profile on oddworld.com.

Don't care. I know what I like and that's white, white, white. Er, I mean, that's because all we need to know of his involvement with the story so far. If Oddworld.com provided a full listing of everything Molluck did, they'd set themselves standards, and not be able to expand his character as much. Besides, it would also mean the writers of the article would have to make up loads of Oddworld info, and its cannon-ness would then be questionable.

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Then it would make sense that the three glukkon execs we hear talking about the boiler (after Phleg, Aslik, and Dripik are killed) are also member of the Board.

And, of course, the Brewmaster.

Danny · #27 08-11-2002, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Max the Mug
Don't care. I know what I like and that's white, white, white. Er, I mean, that's because all we need to know of his involvement with the story so far. If Oddworld.com provided a full listing of everything Molluck did, they'd set themselves standards, and not be able to expand his character as much. Besides, it would also mean the writers of the article would have to make up loads of Oddworld info, and its cannon-ness would then be questionable.

Point.

Al the Vykker · #28 08-11-2002, 03:59 PM

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Molluck owns the entire RuptureFarms company, and probably a couple of others - perhaps many. How many he's actually directly in charge of - or rather was - isn't known.

I said may have been in charge of all the Rupture Farms. Hes was the head of 1029, but what I was thinking is that his factory is the largest and most powerful of all of them, so the downfall could start making the others lose business from weary investers and Consumers.

***Wil*** · #29 08-11-2002, 05:01 PM

Yes, I understand completely. I've no doubt that RuptureFarms 1029 is the 'flagship' of RuptureFarms (just as Vykkers Labs is the flagship of Vykkers Pharmaceuticals). And we know full well that RuptureFarms stock is plummeting - remember the Moolah Ticker?

TheKhanzumer · #30 08-11-2002, 07:01 PM

On Danny's point about Munch and animal cruelty...

I agree. To me it seemed like Munch was in it for personal revenge for what the Vykkers did to him and his race. The reason he freed the fuzzles was just because... well, he could. Plus they could help attack guards. Although he is anti-animal testing, that is not his driving motive. He wanted the gabbiar.