Questions about Abe

dark_xinos · #1 07-03-2002, 07:41 PM

I have been grubeling over this and I hope some of you have the awnser.

Abe, from the verystart of AO, could chant. He was though just an odenary slave! How did he learn!? Cuas if he new before, why dident he escape then. He was a slave you know.

And two. How did Abe end up in Rupture Farms, and why was he employe of the year?

sligster · #2 07-03-2002, 07:46 PM

Okay, when a mud is born it is assighned a place to work at when he gets older. I have really no idea about the other 2 questions.

Kaimana · #3 07-03-2002, 07:47 PM

Well i can tell you that abe liked his job as a salve at Rupture Farms it was until he discovered that profits were going down and that the Glukkons had a new idea to turn Abe and the other Muds in to lunch as Mudokon Pops so there really was no need for him to use his abilities in the begining. I dont know how he got to work at RF maybe he was just forced to work there like the others or he could have been born there i dont know?

sligster · #4 07-03-2002, 07:50 PM

Yeah! Mabey he was employe of the year because he liked his job so much.

***Xavier*** · #5 07-03-2002, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by dark_xinos
and why was he employe of the year?

because he did lots of extra hours, cleaning the floor.
for the rest ask Oddsville or TheKhanzumer

TheKhanzumer · #6 07-03-2002, 10:30 PM

Hey Xinos, here are the best answers I can give. There are some (not very many) creative liberties on my part but unless Lorne Lanning says otherwise you can accept them as fact since they make so much sense.

1. Abe is not a normal mudokon. He is the Chosen One of the mudokon race. A savior which prophicy spoke about. After he was born, the glukkons soon realized he had the natural ability to possess creatures with his chance. They stitched up his lips and solved the problem. When he grew, he was told that his lips were stitched up because as he child he had been very annoyingly talkative. That was the lie his bosses told to him and he had no way of learning the truth (until he learned how in AO). When his stitches loosened up the glukkons didn't care, they assumed Abe would never remember how to chant.

2. Abe ended up in Rupture Farms for no real reason. That was simply where he was assigned once he was old enough to work. The reason he became employee of the year was because he stayed after normal hours to do extra work. His superiors eventually recognized this and gave him the honor of employee of the year.

Hope that helps.

Kaimana · #7 07-03-2002, 10:51 PM

The Khanzumer sure knows his stuff even i had to read that to learn new things. Khanzumer is one of the main people i look up to here. (i hope you feel good about me saying this Khanzumer). So i just gata read what he says so i can learn. thanks for that explanation.

oddling · #8 07-03-2002, 11:00 PM

He's employee of the year cause as it says in the book he's the best darn floor waxer in Rupture Farms. I was employee of the year once too, I got an award for being so trigger-happy. I saved Molluks life once when he was making his inspection of the Scrab kennels and one of them got loose. Now that I think of it I shouldn't have. He said "Good job." and then we had a big assembly thingy and they gave me a medel. It's somewhere in my underwear and sock drawer now cause I don't like it. Even though all he said was good job, do you now what you have to do to get complemented by Molluk! Anyway for the question why he works at Rupture Farms or 'worked' at Rupture Farms was cause the Glukkons had a contract that every Mudokon or so will work in one of their factoriesm Abe just happened to get picked to go to Rupture Farms, and for the time being, he loved it! I kinda liked it too there but when they told me to go on patrol where Abe waxed the floors, for some reason I started talking to him, and felt horrible after he told me his point of view about Sligs. I ranaway and chickened out in the stockyards.

Oddling l:c l

TheKhanzumer · #9 07-03-2002, 11:00 PM

No problem. Thanks for the compliment Kaimana.

It is great to be looked up to, especially since I am fairly new to these forums. You are a great contributor to the forums also, you have started some interesting threads. Things I have to think about like the prehistoric oddworld topic.

But like I said, I made up a little of the answer to the first question so nobody go qouting that as fact. It is just the logical conclusion I have made from all of the information I have gathered.

Kaimana · #10 07-03-2002, 11:13 PM

If you ask me. what Khanzumer said is probably what Lorne had in mind because it makes sense.(oh and Khanzumer im glad you think that way about me i try my best to make good topics for the forums, and i do look up to as someone with knowledge and respect)

***Xavier*** · #11 07-04-2002, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by TheKhanzumer

2. Abe ended up in Rupture Farms for no real reason. That was simply where he was assigned once he was old enough to work.

objection... he was born in RuptureFrams
so he didn't ended but began.

TheKhanzumer · #12 07-04-2002, 05:25 AM

Objection valid.

Speaking of mudokon birth, does anyone know why Sam was at RuptureFarms? Wouldn't it make more sense for her to have her own (heavily slig gaurded) building?

***Xavier*** · #13 07-04-2002, 06:01 AM

well sam was supposed to be in RuptureFarms... then in VykkersLabs
So nobody knows.
I think a main batiment would be a good Idee

and I know lots off mudokons eggs were imported to Rupture Farms.

Majic · #14 07-04-2002, 07:44 AM

Shipments of Mudokon eggs to factories would I guess be the most efficient way to disperse the labor eggs. In Return to Vykker Labs in MO, theres a buttload of eggs to save. Possibly the Vykkers did have Sam, but maybe moved her after Munch's escape?

And just a stupid memory, but wasn't there that sign in AE that said "Coming soon, Vykkers Labs" on it in Feeco Depot or whatever? A way to get to Vykkers Labs, a way to get the eggs to Feeco to send out? Obviously The eggs don't need Sam to hatch them, so you could just ship them around. Probably not coincidence though with the fact Abe appeared at Rupture Farms, where he learned he had a destiny (to save his brothers), and then to be the big hero he is. Crazy stuff, crazy stuff.

***Xavier*** · #15 07-04-2002, 02:42 PM

I think we will see a huge mudokon eggs trafick web.
with lots of frauda and stuff. can be awnsome

***Wil*** · #16 07-04-2002, 04:57 PM

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for the rest ask Oddsville or TheKhanzumer

Hello? I left for four days to visit the Lake District, I haven't completely disappeared.

Lorne had always had Sam in Vykkers Labs. We all know that MO had a massive re-write, which is why we did not see her there. They also changed the storyline enough to make it clear that she was not in Vykkers Labs.

See, the Shaman tells Munch that Vykkers Labs has, recently, been stockpiling Labor Eggs to sell to the highest bidders. There is no designated Labor Egg Storage in Vykkers Labs, because the level of that name in Munch's Oddysee takes place inside the Interns' employee lounge.

And I don't think that Abe being born at RuptureFarms is significant enough to suggest that Sam was ever stationed there - most likely some OWI worker had to come up with something that most likely wouldn't conflict with Lorne's ideas.

We've also discussed the Vykkers Labs/FeeCo Depot train conundrum before. The best excuse we could come up with was that the train leads to the Vykkers Labs groundbase, but the obvious reason it's there, production-wise, is that at that stage Vykkers Labs wasn't designed to be flying, but OWI wanted to give us a little taste of continuity. Ha, how we laugh at that thought now.

***Xavier*** · #17 07-04-2002, 05:04 PM

sorry Max.

I saw some pictures of the "Oddworld Wall" and the well knowed picture of Sam in the blue chamber was under the label: Vykkers Labs.

Max do you have an idea where Sam is located now ?

***Wil*** · #18 07-04-2002, 05:14 PM

Well, my immediate guess would be another Vykkers installation, but who knows. If she were, it would certainly demonstrate the tentative relationship between the Vykkers and the Glukkons. It would also make sense, since I'm sure the Glukkons wouldn't dream of selling their slave labour force to the Vykkers - only the other way round.

But who knows what cunning ideas Lorne has come up with, now that we're in this situation.

Oddsville · #19 07-04-2002, 05:20 PM

Don't worry Max knowone has forgotten about you, its just latley you havn't been here so me and Khanz had to take care of things while you where away.

***Xavier*** · #20 07-04-2002, 05:20 PM

okay.
thank you Max

now Lorne can make a totaly (or partial) new story for Sam.
In fact now we only know who she is.

***Wil*** · #21 07-04-2002, 05:26 PM

Yeah, thanks Oddsville and Khan, you've done super. I would have given you all a warning of my imminent departure, but I spent all Saturday at the school's Open Morning and Sports Day, and all evening packing ready to leave for the Lakes on Sunday.

Anyway, like I said, you've done good. Thankee.

sligster · #22 07-04-2002, 05:51 PM

Hey, in the first MO demo ( the one with the climb vendo ) Scince Munch is in a cage, don't you think that big building next to the cage, could have been the original Vykkers labs?

***Wil*** · #23 07-04-2002, 05:54 PM

I've never had the fortune to play this illustrious MO demo, but the building by the cage, whatever it is (screenshots, anybody), would not be Vykkers Labs. The flying-laboratories would have been fully designed yonks before the demo came out, most likely while the game was still destined for the PS2, and perhaps while AE was still fresh out.

Still, I'd love to see this cage and building to see how they could fit into the Oddworld we know.

***Xavier*** · #24 07-04-2002, 06:10 PM

never saw that cage thing...
I think I missed something.
does someone know where I can find that demo ?

Oddsville · #25 07-04-2002, 06:13 PM

If you have Halo, then just go to game demos on the title screen and you can play it.

***Xavier*** · #26 07-04-2002, 06:23 PM

no...
I have Halo but there are only video's.
where do you live oddsville?
I live somewhere in europe, it's maybe not the same version