I had time after all, because we didn't leave just yet. Mom is still busy with something...
So, here we go...
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Originally posted by Jacob
I should have pharsed that better i know...i meant before they fight.(1.)
Thats torturing...its also against the whole point of Bullfighting. (2.) The point of it is to beat a animal using intelligence, dexterity and wit. Cunning over brute force and such. The above would/has not ever happened not in the nobler stadiums at least. (3.) Maybe when the Matadors were training (4.) but not with experts who...toy with the Bulls on foot with the red cape (5.), only after the crowd are getting bored of that do they then start to stab the bulls. I have watched a few Bullfights and i did find it quite sick but also entertaining, also, they did not do what you stated. (6.) The entire history of Bullfights was for the sheer adrenaline rush, life and death and such. Doing all of that to a Bull isn't exactly going to be exiting for the Matador is it? (7.)And anyway, were is your proof that all of this happens? (8.) I have seen Bullfighters killed in the ring... (9.) a Bull would not be able to do that would it with the stuff happening to it before hand. (10.) And also, that is the only time when the other Matadors and horse riding ones came into the ring, and even then they didn't kill it. (11.) They just got a new Matador in to fight. Dont get me wrong, it is cruel but it is Spanish tradition. (12.) It isn't something new, it comes from the times of somewere between 711-1492 A.D. (13.) And they do consider it a noble animal and brave, they do honour the Bull. (14.) I have forgot to mention a few things...but no doubt you will bring them up. (15.)
Exitement.(16.)
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1. Like I said earlier, they
do suffer before they go to the arena...
2. Exactly what I said (or tried to say
) earlier. The whole meaning of bull fights in the first place is to fight the great and noble animal. And someone may find it glorious to kill an animal if it's strong and hard to compete against. I wouldn't... But that isn't any more the idea of bull fights. They just show it off as this great challenge, when the reality is a whole different story.
3. It has. And it
does. I'm not saying that all the bull fights and all the arenas would be like this. But ieven f one is, that is too much. And I know there are plenty...
4. Not only in training... they do fight like that. But would it be any better if they did it only when they practise? Out of sight, out of mind...
5. Yeah, the annoyed and frustrated bull attacking the red cape. How hilarious...
6. Yes, I know there are some "decent" bull fighting arenas around...
7. No, but it's exciting for the audience, who know nothing about the cheating and are really worrying for the brave matador risking his life...
8. *hmmm* I noticed your new post, saying you found this out from some where. Anyway, I've seen a bull fight (until the point, where I couldn't stand it any more and left... ) not IRL though. I could never support something like that! I only saw this on video with my Latin class. And my Latin teacher has told me about the fights she's been to. (we really don't study much Latin on our lessons...
We just talk about our private lives and problems with our teacher, who is always trying to help us...
And whe talk about politics and news and stuff. And we joke a lot on the lessons. Reija is just the coolest teacher I've ever had! ) When this subject came up, I actually did some research to see if my beliefs were actually right, and they were.
9. Like Sydney said, I would only laugh at the matadors, if they were attacked by the bulls. Of course I'm not happy if someone dies, but they are trying to kill the bulls...and I think that's more wrong. The bull has a right to defend itself.
10. You've got a point there, but also it takes time for the bulls to get week. They can still have strenght on the ring at first when they get there, but they're getting weeker all the time. And of course they're furious with all the pain they're suffering and they're annoyed by the matador's red cape and try to attack it with growing frustration.
11. There are different kinds of arenas...
12. I know, it is a tradition and very important to the countries that practise it, like Spain. It is a part of their culrure. But they could still get rid of it. I'm sure they've got loads of traditions in Spain, which are eticly better and from which the country is remembered and regogniced in a more positive way. I think bull fighting is something, that should be got rid off.
13. I know it is a very old tradition. That doesn't make it any better or worth keeping. The bull fights age back to the days of Ancient Rome, when they had gladiator and animal fights on the amfi theathers. The church put a stop to amfi theathre shows in the year 404 A.D. The bull, dog and rooster fights we've got now are barbaric relics from the past. Of course the situation today is way better, since only at the grand opening of the great Colosseum in Rome 9000 wild animals and 2000 gladiators were killed in the 100 days it lasted.
14. That's the public image... Well there are many matadors, who actually honor the bull, but they're a rare race in today's world, since everything and everyone is getting so cold and doesn't care much about others.
15. Nothing more comes in mind right now...
16. Excitement? Do you meen the part where you run for your life or where you are beating up the bulls?
I am for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals(sort of, anyway)
Why do they call themselves hunters, since they do nothing themselves? And why do they want to hunt the foxes in the first place, if they don't do anything with them. Just for fun?
