The King of Goth

Surfacing · #1 03-23-2002, 11:07 PM

Well who do you think is the real king of goth? Ozzy, or Meryln Manson? You don't have to like either, i know i don't but if i had to choose i would have to go with Ozzy.

munchman · #2 03-23-2002, 11:18 PM

OZZY OSBOURNE ROCKS he is my fav. singer next to slipnot, dusturbed, limp Bizkit

Jacob · #3 03-24-2002, 12:34 PM

Yer...Ozzy is the king of Goth. But Maz Manson is the kooler of the 2

Danny · #4 03-24-2002, 03:15 PM

They're both a pair of ego-centric wankers, who just happen to make good music.

Trent Reznor, now there's a God amongst Men...

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #5 03-24-2002, 04:32 PM

They're both annoying and stupid in real life, but I think Manson makes better music... And neither of them are the king of goth, come on! Alice Cooper started that whole music style/trend. (and if you mean one of them was actually the first gothic person, than you are very wrong... I really doubt that a musical artist started that)

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Originally posted by Danny
Trent Reznor, now there's a God amongst Men...

Indeed...

Danny · #6 03-24-2002, 05:38 PM

I believe the man you are looking for is Alaric. He led the Visigoths to victory against Rome in 410 AD. The Ostragoths never had such a great leader...

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #7 03-24-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
I believe the man you are looking for is Alaric. He led the Visigoths to victory against Rome in 410 AD. The Ostragoths never had such a great leader...

*wonders exactly how much internet searching it took Dan to find that...*

Steve · #8 03-24-2002, 09:47 PM

I thought that was Odoacer, or was he just the first germanic ruler?

Danny · #9 03-24-2002, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Steve
I thought that was Odoacer, or was he just the first germanic ruler?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the Visigoths and Ostragoths had more than one king in their history...

Steve · #10 03-24-2002, 10:13 PM

sorry, germanic ruler of rome.

just so this post seems more relevent (even though it won't be) it wouldn't suprise me either.

Surfacing · #11 03-25-2002, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
They're both annoying and stupid in real life, but I think Manson makes better music... And neither of them are the king of goth, come on! Alice Cooper started that whole music style/trend.
Indeed...

LOL! Alice cooper! Firtly look at his name "Alice" LOL

Yeah that's real goth material you got there.

Dequibenzo · #12 03-25-2002, 04:14 AM

Wow, somebody has NO idea what they're talking about, apparently. Dude, Cooper is the FATHER of modern Goth. Ozzy is his heir apperent- he's still releasing things. Manson isn't anything of goth- he's the king of modern show-biz image manipulation. His real name is Brian, he's from Cincinnatti, and he went to college to become an accountant. Now he does cruddy covers of hair-band songs and only pops into the public eye every once in a while because people are pressed for news sometimes. Trust me- I live in Colorado, less than fifty miles from Columbine, and even that little altercation involving it and him a few years ago resolved itself pretty non-climacticly. Guy's a hack, if you ask me.

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #13 03-25-2002, 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing

LOL! Alice cooper! Firtly look at his name "Alice" LOL Yeah that's real goth material you got there.

Shit, you're incredibly ignorant to music history! Alice Cooper fathered goth rock, man. Don't make fun of him... He was brilliant, better than frigging Ozzy and Manson... I see you have no idea what goth music is. Go out to a record store and find the real music...

Dequibenzo · #14 03-25-2002, 05:16 AM

I second that.

Surfacing · #15 03-25-2002, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite

Shit, you're incredibly ignorant to music history! Alice Cooper fathered goth rock, man. Don't make fun of him... He was brilliant, better than frigging Ozzy and Manson... I see you have no idea what goth music is. Go out to a record store and find the real music...

He may of fathered goth rock, but his old and so is his music, And exsactly he " Was" Brilliant, not anymore, get with the times man.

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #16 03-25-2002, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
He may of fathered goth rock, but his old and so is his music, And exsactly he " Was" Brilliant, not anymore, get with the times man.

Yes, he fathered goth rock... Making him the king of goth! Not only that, but his music was far better than Ozzy's and he never tried to be trendy like him. Ozzy has a TV show, come on! He's pathetic, just trying to be creepy. Manson... He has fine music, but he certainly isn't the king of goth and the guy is also just trying to be creepy. And... why did you bring up that he is old? So what? His music is still fabulous. Most older music is better any way... Ozzy is as old as him, and he's just trying to keep up with the times. Ozzy's pretty pathetic... And, no, we won't get with the times because we actually know what good music is and not the trendy hacks.

Danny · #17 03-25-2002, 06:16 PM

Ah, Dequibenzo, good to see you finally venturing to join us in Off-Topic...

Hope you never go back...

Jacob · #18 03-25-2002, 06:25 PM

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I live in Colorado

Ah...that xplains your attitude. Actually, i think Maz Manson is kinda the kooler and he goes for the shock approach with his videos...such as dressing up as a pope and (So i have heard) eating a baby (Fake...obviously...i hope)

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #19 03-25-2002, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Ah...that xplains your attitude. Actually, i think Maz Manson is kinda the kooler and he goes for the shock approach with his videos...such as dressing up as a pope and (So i have heard) eating a baby (Fake...obviously...i hope)

I agree, Manson is much better than Ozzy, better music and he makes really cool, surreal music videos. Ozzy is even more of a hack than him... Ozzy just annoys me. I still say Alice Cooper is the best of em all... And living in Colorado explains what...?

Dan:

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Ah, Dequibenzo, good to see you finally venturing to join us in Off-Topic... Hope you never go back...

Yes! Join us, Doppelganger... Join ussssssss.... *drools*

Surfacing · #20 03-26-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite

Yes, he fathered goth rock... Making him the king of goth! Not only that, but his music was far better than Ozzy's and he never tried to be trendy like him. Ozzy has a TV show, come on! He's pathetic, just trying to be creepy. Manson... He has fine music, but he certainly isn't the king of goth and the guy is also just trying to be creepy. And... why did you bring up that he is old? So what? His music is still fabulous. Most older music is better any way... Ozzy is as old as him, and he's just trying to keep up with the times. Ozzy's pretty pathetic... And, no, we won't get with the times because we actually know what good music is and not the trendy hacks.

Ok whatever, i'm really not into solo artist myself, beside's i wanted to find out what people thought bout Ozzy and Manson not, Alice, beside's i think you would have been the only one to vote for him look at how many people like Ozzy.

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #21 03-26-2002, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
Ok whatever, i'm really not into solo artist myself, beside's i wanted to find out what people thought bout Ozzy and Manson not, Alice, beside's i think you would have been the only one to vote for him look at how many people like Ozzy.

I would have been the only one to vote for him? Didn't you read Dequibenzo's reply? Also, I was talking to a few people on MSN who thought that Cooper was the king of goth... Any way, I just wanted to get my point across that Alice Cooper was the king of goth, seeing that he was the first great goth musician, and he wasn't some cheesy hack like Ozzy...

Surfacing · #22 03-26-2002, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite

I would have been the only one to vote for him? Didn't you read Dequibenzo's reply? Also, I was talking to a few people on MSN who thought that Cooper was the king of goth... Any way, I just wanted to get my point across that Alice Cooper was the king of goth, seeing that he was the first great goth musician, and he wasn't some cheesy hack like Ozzy...

Ok settle down, i don't think i'm gonna argue with you on this topic cause like i said i really don't knpw much about solo artist cause i'm really not into them, i would edit the poll for you and add alice cooper but i don't think it can be done.

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #23 03-26-2002, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing

Ok settle down, i don't think i'm gonna argue with you on this topic cause like i said i really don't knpw much about solo artist cause i'm really not into them, i would edit the poll for you and add alice cooper but i don't think it can be done.

Settle down? I don't think I did any thing that didn't seem calm... Any way, you don't have to edit Cooper in... I do prefer him, but I think most every one who saw this topic has voted...

Statikk HDM · #24 04-01-2002, 02:37 PM

Versus these two you must give it to OZZY FUKKING OSBOURNE!!! But I have always liked real shredders, like Rusty and the shred manifesto, and Slayer's lead singer, Tom Aryana. But the OZZ wins 'cause his show is damned hilarious and the randy roads era was genious. Damn planes. They always seem to kill the cool peeps

Disgruntled Intern · #25 04-01-2002, 04:19 PM

alice cooper is the man!
and reznor..oh..reznor
*drools*
a god indeed!

Surfacing, you think less of alice cooper, because his name is alice...what about MARILYN manson?
and guys c'mon...you can't hold Leon's opinion TOO high..i mean, he loves Slipknot...what does that tell you about his musical taste?
anyone who loves a friggin no talent, neo metal crap band is sure to have negative opinions about the classics....oh well.
beer really is good, but I prefer whizzzzzzzzky.
not whiz god dammit!
..I'm drunk.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #26 04-01-2002, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
alice cooper is the man!
and reznor..oh..reznor
*drools*
a god indeed!
Surfacing, you think less of alice cooper, because his name is alice...what about MARILYN manson?
and guys c'mon...you can't hold Leon's opinion TOO high..i mean, he loves Slipknot...what does that tell you about his musical taste?
anyone who loves a friggin no talent, neo metal crap band is sure to have negative opinions about the classics....oh well.
beer really is good, but I prefer whizzzzzzzzky.
not whiz god dammit!
..I'm drunk.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Well, it certainly is hard to agree with someone with such horrid tact... But I do, you crazy drunkard... Hey, now we have two crazy drunks on the forums!

Danny · #27 04-01-2002, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
Well, it certainly is hard to agree with someone with such horrid tact... But I do, you crazy drunkard... Hey, now we have two crazy drunks on the forums!

I knew, even as I read his post, that there was some snide comment heading my way...

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #28 04-01-2002, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
I knew, even as I read his post, that there was some snide comment heading my way...

Yeah, I did have two targets... Your tact, and your drunk-ness... I decided to take the drunk one, because you don't have that bad of tact...

Disgruntled Intern · #29 04-01-2002, 07:53 PM

uh Dyl..don't you mean lack of tact?

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #30 04-01-2002, 07:56 PM

I did say "horrid tact", Dave.. Unless you mean in my reply to Dan.. Then I meant just what condition his tact was in.... Just Tact. Either way, Dan's tact isn't too bad... Can't say the same for yours, Dave...