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11-07-2012, 04:38 AM
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It seems like I am the only one here who's moaning about the progress of a slow loss of control over personal data. do I appear naive to you? I mean, when I try to dump the "every corporation is bad" attitude and look at the facts, it still worries me.
for instance - this one really gives me the creeps

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/13...u-for-the-mpaa

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Microsoft has filed for a Kinect-related patent, and it’s a doozy of an application. The abstract describes a camera-based system that would monitor the number of viewers in a room and check to see if the number of occupants exceeded a certain threshold set by the content provider. If there are too many warm bodies present, the device owner would be prompted to purchase a license for a greater number of viewers.
here's the patent

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...DN/20120278904

or when you think about INDECT, which is a European project - you'll possibly be monitored when you use a TOR client.

http://www.indect-project.eu/faq#Q3.8

now I know that there's a lot of bad things on deep web, but this "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument is twisted imo.

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Actively seeking to keep browsing habits private per se, cannot be reason to flag someone for further investigation. Anyway, profiling suspected figureheads, even with anonymous identities, protected by using special software (like TOR), is expected.
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11-07-2012, 08:48 AM
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TOR bounces your connection across a dozen servers world wide with the very aim of being untraceable. How the hell do they think they can circumvent a system that has police forces all over the world still puzzled?

But yeah, some creepy stuff going on when it comes to digital projects. Governments and corporations can't seem to handle that they are losing grip on the people because they can't grasp the internet and its communities.
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11-07-2012, 12:08 PM
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Surely people would refuse to use products like that if they really did monitor how many people were watching content? That's some serious invasion of privacy.
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11-07-2012, 12:22 PM
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TOR bounces your connection across a dozen servers world wide with the very aim of being untraceable. How the hell do they think they can circumvent a system that has police forces all over the world still puzzled?
well I guess it's enough by tracing you when you visit a website and download a client. given that you won't use a proxy.


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Surely people would refuse to use products like that if they really did monitor how many people were watching content? That's some serious invasion of privacy.
I'm not so sure about that. think about facebook & co.
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11-07-2012, 12:33 PM
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Yeah but the personal information people put on public display there is entered willingly when they sign up. Except that people aren't very clever with the info they submit or aren't aware with what FB is alleged to do with said info.
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I've heard of Microsoft putting cameras in their Kinects and having the ability to control them before, from a friend of mine who worked at EB games. I think it sounds like completely ridiculous tinfoil hat bullshit though, as it certainly wouldn't be legal, but you never know.

Also I thought this was a thread about ghosts at first. That would be much more interesting.
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11-08-2012, 12:14 AM
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They should know better. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

This is Oddworld Forums. Give them a fucking show.
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11-08-2012, 03:47 AM
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Also I thought this was a thread about ghosts at first. That would be much more interesting.
Yeah I was excepting a thread about a man who was literally transparent.
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Yeah I was excepting a thread about a man who was literally transparent.
I thought it was a legitimate translation for the german expression "der gläserne mensch" (gläsern means made of glass - mensch means human, man)
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They should know better. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

This is Oddworld Forums. Give them a fucking show.
LET'S GET IT ALL OUT!!!
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Yes, big time companies and even the government have really been overstepping their boundaries with the increase of digital technology, but most people won't take people who oppose them seriously. They just quickly dismiss someone who cries out as a paranoid, tin-foil wearing, Coast to Coast AM calling, loon.
Here's 2 articles that come to mind when I think about how 1984 predicted the future-
A school gives out laptops to its students, then used built in webcams to spy on them
former NSA officer makes claims about government's records
There are countless other examples. All you have to do is Google for them.
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I don't think you should compare schools illegally disregarding the human rights of their students to spy on them similar to governments and big businesses trying to sneak through anti-growth bills to protect their own interests. I think in some circles it may make you look like a paranoid, tin foil wearing, Coast to Coast Am calling loon.
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I don't think you should compare schools illegally disregarding the human rights of their students to spy on them similar to governments and big businesses trying to sneak through anti-growth bills to protect their own interests. I think in some circles it may make you look like a paranoid, tin foil wearing, Coast to Coast Am calling loon.
So you're comfortable with every message you've privately, sent via phone, computer, or whatever, being read by an outside party? Maybe you're not paranoid enough.
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So you're comfortable with every message you've privately, sent via phone, computer, or whatever, being read by an outside party? Maybe you're not paranoid enough.
You totally didn't get me. I'm saying not to confuse problem A with problem B.
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