Hyper gayness! -

Surfacing · #31 03-08-2002, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Doug

And we don't need to know that you're homophobic, Surfacing. It's not going to influence the course of the discussion here.

Well sorry Doug, i had no idea we were suppose to keep secrets here., next time i'll just keep my opnions and thoughts and emotions all bottled up would that make you happy?

Statikk HDM · #32 03-08-2002, 11:11 PM

You fear gay people? what is their to be afraid of of" Hey surfacing, can you be a doll and pick up that quarter I dropped" I have met one and he was in a play that i was in and he talked all lispy and was REALLY light in the loafers. But I'm sure not all of them are like that. Anyway, homosexuals don't bother me 'cause I'm sure a lot of 'em go here and I don't mind a bit. So, what caused this "fag fear" surfacing. Let out your emotions, man. Don't bottle 'em up.

Surfacing · #33 03-08-2002, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Statikk HDM
You fear gay people? what is their to be afraid of of" Hey surfacing, can you be a doll and pick up that quarter I dropped" I have met one and he was in a play that i was in and he talked all lispy and was REALLY light in the loafers. But I'm sure not all of them are like that. Anyway, homosexuals don't bother me 'cause I'm sure a lot of 'em go here and I don't mind a bit. So, what caused this "fag fear" surfacing. Let out your emotions, man. Don't bottle 'em up.

Oh, i had no idea there were homosexuals here, i know there are bi sexuels but homo i had no idea, i don't want to go into detail why i fear them cause i think more people will just get more mad.

Danny · #34 03-08-2002, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
Dislike Dan what on earth gave you that idea,just cause we argue a little does'nt not mean i dislike him at all infact i may even consider him a friend here.

It's good to know I can disagree with you without you disliking me.

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You hate me now, why? just over this? I don't hate gay people i fear them, i still treat them like a normal person if i speak to one, but i would rather try to obviod them that's all.

I think Tom hates you more for the long tiresome rows over women, to be honest...

No, seriously, why do you fear Gay people? I mean, I have many gay friends, and they are some of the nicest people I know. More to the point, I am bisexual, so do you fear me?

Hehe... I have the power...

Surfacing · #35 03-08-2002, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
It's good to know I can disagree with you without you disliking me.

I think Tom hates you more for the long tiresome rows over women, to be honest...

No, seriously, why do you fear Gay people? I mean, I have many gay friends, and they are some of the nicest people I know. More to the point, I am bisexual, so do you fear me?

What a silly quetion, ofcoarse i don't fear you, i got nothing againest bi sexual's at all,and Dan i think even if you were homo i would still like you and not fear you at all, now you are asking me why i hate gay people, this will lead to a huge argument not just between you and me but everyone that is already againest is will get extremly pissed at me, are you sure you really want to ask that question>?

Danny · #36 03-08-2002, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
What a silly quetion, ofcoarse i don't fear you, i got nothing againest bi sexual's at all,and Dan i think even if you were homo i would still like you and not fear you at all, now you are asking me why i hate gay people, this will lead to a huge argument not just between you and me but everyone that is already againest is will get extremly pissed at me, are you sure you really want to ask that question>?

Yes, I am. Especially now that I know that you don't fear Bisexuals, since that means that your fear of Gays can't be anything to do with them ****ing other men... I am honestly curious to know how anyone could be afraid of anyone else just because of their choice of lifestyle...

EDIT: Hmm...

Topic Title: "Hyper Gayness"
Topic about: Dakkan's disappearence
Topic has now strayed to: Homosexuality

I think this is the first ever instance of a thread that has actually become more ON-topic than when it started...

Doug · #37 03-08-2002, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
Well sorry Doug, i had no idea we were suppose to keep secrets here., next time i'll just keep my opnions and thoughts and emotions all bottled up would that make you happy?

I suppose that you deserve points for honesty, but I think you need to understand that when you bluntly confess to being homophobic, it's not like announcing that you're lactose-intolerant in a topic about milk. You have to realize that while many might join you, many others perceive it as a hateful and narrow-minded viewpoint that is deserving of scorn and worse. It's as if Danny and Tom were talking about England and I threw in my 2 cents and added "by the way guys, I think you should know that I think people who live in England are [insert hateful and ignorant epithet of your choice here]!" Even if I really thought that, which of course I don't, if I'm insensitive enough to share it I would deserve the flames that I surely would get.

You should also realize that there is a difference between saying "I am uncomfortable with homosexuality" and saying you are a homophobe. While I take from your comment that you take the "phobic" part quite literally, i.e., fearful, as in phobia, in the U.S. "homophobia" more accurately connotes hatred for gays rather than fear of them. Your original comment struck me as "hey, I don't like gay people -- watch the gay talk." Maybe that's not what you intended to convey, but it's what I heard.

My biggest peeve with your comment was that it was completely in the wrong place. The inappropriate use of the term "gay" in the title didn't make it a topic about homosexuality. If you want to start a topic entitled: "I think homosexuality isn't normal; what do you think?" then have at it. But the bottom line was that your comment was not only spam, but putrid spam.

Surfacing · #38 03-08-2002, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Danny
Yes, I am. Especially now that I know that you don't fear Bisexuals, since that means that your fear of Gays can't be anything to do with them ****ing other men... I am honestly curious to know how anyone could be afraid of anyone else just because of their choice of lifestyle...

Ok fine i'll tell you just don't take it to personally.
I think one of the reason i don't like gays is that when i'm talking to one there is that chance he could be, you know looking at me in certain ways a nother guy would'nt, i find that extremly distrubing, also gay people will not sleep with a women but they are more that happy to act like one, you know when gay men speak diffrently to hedro men, they speak with this women accent and they were these women like clothing with the shiny pants, i knwo not all gay men are like this but most are, i just would rather not see a man act like that, that's why i would rather ovoid them.

Majic · #39 03-08-2002, 11:52 PM

i think that maybe someone should give support to him, hek ive never talked to him but i would like to say he hasnt swayed my opinion of him at all, its just how in the manner he acts. so ill say this, i dont care if hes homophobic or whatever hes still cool or whatever.

Danny · #40 03-08-2002, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
Ok fine i'll tell you just don't take it to personally.
I think one of the reason i don't like gays is that when i'm talking to one there is that chance he could be, you know looking at me in certain ways a nother guy would'nt, i find that extremly distrubing,(1) also gay people will not sleep with a women but they are more that happy to act like one, you know when gay men speak diffrently to hedro men, they speak with this women accent and they were these women like clothing with the shiny pants, i knwo not all gay men are like this but most are, i just would rather not see a man act like that, that's why i would rather ovoid them.(2)

1. But you wouldn't mind if it were a Bisexual eyeing you up? What about a woman?

2. How many gay men do you actually know? I know several, and only two of them are in any way feminine. Besides, why should men being feminine in any way effect how you feel about them? What if a straight man was extremely feminine, would you avoid him? It seems to me that you are basing more or less your entire belief on unsubstantiated stereotypes...

Surfacing · #41 03-09-2002, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Danny
1. But you wouldn't mind if it were a Bisexual eyeing you up? What about a woman?

2. How many gay men do you actually know? I know several, and only two of them are in any way feminine. Besides, why should men being feminine in any way effect how you feel about them? What if a straight man was extremely feminine, would you avoid him? It seems to me that you are basing more or less your entire belief on unsubstantiated stereotypes...

Bisexual eyeing me up, you mean a female bisexual, i would no problem with that.

I don't know that many gay men like about 5 or 6. Like i said i find difficult to like a man that acts feminine, also find it disturbing i can't really explain why i just do, also explain to me why will that act feinine, but not sleep with a women, i mean if they hate women sexually why would they act like 1?

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #42 03-09-2002, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
also explain to me why will that act feinine, but not sleep with a women, i mean if they hate women sexually why would they act like 1?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. You have a point there.

I mean, a gay guy who was acting like a female and wore make-up and everything wanted to beat me up because he had a crush on my boyfriend and he got jealous. I mean, he's originally a man and he wanted to beat me up for my boyfriend. I don't hate gays but just that gay dude who wanted to beat me up.

Sydney · #43 03-09-2002, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
also explain to me why will that act feinine, but not sleep with a women, i mean if they hate women sexually why would they act like 1?

Danny already told you they were baseless stereotypes. Regardless, if you're not sexually attracted to men, then why do you act like one?

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #44 03-09-2002, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Sydney
Regardless, if you're not sexually attracted to men, then why do you act like one?

Heh, Syd has a great point there, Surf...

Also, why is it ok for a female to come onto you, but not a male? I know, you aren't attracted to them, but wouldn't it flatter you? It's knowing that someone finds you attractive, even if he is part of your gender.

Statikk HDM · #45 03-09-2002, 12:17 AM

Well, i am not afraid of gay guys one bit. I'm a brave little soldier! How do you know a guy is eyeing you p. and couldn't you just say somesthing like" Hey Cecil, stop gazing at my crotch. it makes my skin crawl". But say it like a joke. Or wear baggy jeans.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #46 03-09-2002, 12:19 AM

If he wants to get sexually active with ya, he licks his lips...twice!

Danny · #47 03-09-2002, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
Bisexual eyeing me up, you mean a female bisexual, i would no problem with that.

No, I mean male ones. Like me (not that I do, but if I did)...

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I don't know that many gay men like about 5 or 6. Like i said i find difficult to like a man that acts feminine, also find it disturbing i can't really explain why i just do, also explain to me why will that act feinine, but not sleep with a women, i mean if they hate women sexually why would they act like 1?

Hang on, whoa, slow down there, where did you get the word "hate" from? As Sydney said, you don't sleep with men, so why do you act like one? Would it be less disturbing for you when a man acted feminine if he did sleep with women?

Surfacing · #48 03-09-2002, 12:39 AM

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No, I mean male ones. Like me (not that I do, but if I did)...

I don't wish to answer that.

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Hang on, whoa, slow down there, where did you get the word "hate" from? As Sydney said, you don't sleep with men, so why do you act like one? Would it be less disturbing for you when a man acted feminine if he did sleep with women?

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I don't sleep with men?? who me ? no i don't, i still would'nt find it as disturbing if a feminine man sleept with a women that would just be really weird.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #49 03-09-2002, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing

I don't wish to answer that.

I don't sleep with men?? who me ? no i don't, i still would'nt find it as disturbing if a feminine man sleept with a women that would just be really weird.

It won't just be weird...it would be confusing!

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #50 03-09-2002, 12:44 AM

Surf, what he means is this: Your argument states that you can't understand why a man would act like a woman, but not sleep with one. The question is, why do you act like a man, but you won't sleep with one. It's just switched, Surf, but the same thing.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #51 03-09-2002, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
Surf, what he means is this: Your argument states that you can't understand why a man would act like a woman, but not sleep with one. The question is, why do you act like a man, but you won't sleep with one. It's just switched, Surf, but the same thing.

Why would he want to sleep with a man? Do men who act like men normally or have to sleep with men?

Danny · #52 03-09-2002, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Surfacing
I don't wish to answer that.

Why not?

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I don't sleep with men?? who me ? no i don't, i still would'nt find it as disturbing if a feminine man sleept with a women that would just be really weird. [/B]

I don't think you quite understand. Let me reiterate:

You said that one reason you dislike gays is because they act like women even though they don't sleep with them, correct? Well, by that reasoning, you shouldn't act male, because you don't sleep with men...

Surfacing · #53 03-09-2002, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
Surf, what he means is this: Your argument states that you can't understand why a man would act like a woman, but not sleep with one. The question is, why do you act like a man, but you won't sleep with one. It's just switched, Surf, but the same thing.

Why do i act like a man and don't sleep with 1? is'nt that a simple question, well here is the simple answer, i'm not homosexuel.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #54 03-09-2002, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Danny
Well, by that reasoning, you shouldn't act male, because you don't sleep with men...

Why not he's a guy. He's a guy it's obvious he will act like one. I can see if he's gay or something.

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #55 03-09-2002, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by PinkHaired Mudokon CWR

Why would he want to sleep with a man? Do men who act like men normally or have to sleep with men?

AAAAGH, PINK! Surf asked why men who act like women can't sleep with women. We're saying that how come men who act like men can't sleep with men. Do you understand now?

Of course, Surf!!! Because you aren't homosexual! You said "Why can a man who acts like a woman not sleep with a women?" Because HE'S homosexual! You see now?

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR · #56 03-09-2002, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite

AAAAGH, PINK! Surf asked why men who act like women can't sleep with women. We're saying that how come men who act like men can't sleep with men. Do you understand now?

Yeah I do understand but there's something about this discussion that makes it sound ooky.

Surfacing · #57 03-09-2002, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite

AAAAGH, PINK! Surf asked why men who act like women can't sleep with women. We're saying that how come men who act like men can't sleep with men. Do you understand now?

Of course, Surf!!! Because you aren't homosexual! You said "Why can a man who acts like a woman not sleep with a women?" Because HE'S homosexual! You see now?

By why act like a women in the first place? Just cause you don't sleep with them?

Melvin:squeeking paramite · #58 03-09-2002, 12:52 AM

Why do you act like a man surf? Because of your genitals? You silly little man.

Surfacing · #59 03-09-2002, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Melvin:squeeking paramite
Why do you act like a man surf? Because of your genitals? You silly little man.

Who said i act like a man??

Danny · #60 03-09-2002, 12:54 AM

We're at cross purposes here. We're not getting through to Leon, and he's not getting through to us. I suggest we give up. That way, I can go to bed without fear of missing anything interesting...