Room 102

[T-nex]

The point being that drug addiction isn't a personal freedom, it's an addiction.

If I saw a friend of mine suffering from drug addiction I wouldn't sit idly by and doing nothing, then later tell him 'Oh sorry I wasn't aware you were suffering. I was respecting your autonomy.'

That's just an excuse to do nothing. Addiction is never a freedom.

If someone wants to be addicted, they have the right to be addicted.
Cigarette smokers have the right to be addicted too.

But that's not what I was saying anyway. I dont get why everytime someone mentions freedom + drugs it has to be about addiction and 'oh no'.

Plenty of drugs aren't addictive. Not all drugs are heroin.

And as I said, if the person asks for help, they should have it. The population should receive proper education about sensitive matters such as these, and there should be plenty of way to get help and stuff.

I wouldn't just sit idly by and not help someone if they had an addiction either. But you can't force someone to stop something unless it hurts others.

[Manco]

If someone wants to be addicted, they have the right to be addicted.
Cigarette smokers have the right to be addicted too.

You’re confusing “wants to get addicted” with “wants to take drugs”.

People don’t take drugs to get addicted, people don’t want to be addicted to things. They want to experience the short-term effects the drugs have on their mind and body, not the debilitating long-term ones.

[T-nex]

You’re confusing “wants to get addicted” with “wants to take drugs”.

People don’t take drugs to get addicted, people don’t want to be addicted to things. They want to experience the short-term effects the drugs have on their mind and body, not the debilitating long-term ones.

Well I friggin know this. I was responding to Joe. He chose to mention extremes, so Im responding with extremes. And my "extreme" opinion is that if someone took drugs, and got addicted, but they dont wanna do anything about it, we cant force them to unless they become a nuisance. Just like smokers. just.... more extreme.

[Wings of Fire]

If someone I knew changed into a different person through an addiction and if their life went up the shitter purely because of their addiction then I would consider helping them in any way I can to be my duty as a friend.

That's what constitutes as harmful to self for me, not as simple as 'Taking drugs is auto harmful'.

[T-nex]

If someone I knew changed into a different person through an addiction and if their life went up the shitter purely because of their addiction then I would consider helping them in any way I can to be my duty as a friend.

That's what constitutes as harmful to self for me, not as simple as 'Taking drugs is auto harmful'.

Yea well... it's still an extreme, i think everyone can agree that if it gets as bad as someone's life going to the shitter, then it's something that should be helped.
Whether that's just a human duty or should be enforced by law, i dunno.

But it wasn't my original point, and I seriously dislike including extremes in these conversations when it's unneeded, because these are one of those things that are kind of a given, and they sort of require threads on their own.

I merely wanted to point out that i would get rid of intolerance to personal freedoms(as long as they remain personal or consented to).

[MA]

T-nex is causing shit again.

god sake.

[T-nex]

Nuh uh! I just get annoyed that I can't express myself properly without being misunderstood(or misunderstand what Im reading for that matter)... ._. I don't mean to cause shit.

Also I feel really strongly about personal choices.

sorry x_x

[MA]

i was just shit-stirring.

you cause the shit, and i stir it.

[Dixanadu]

The mental image MA conjured should be cast in the far corner of Room 102.

[T-nex]

i was just shit-stirring.

you cause the shit, and i stir it.

Well sometimes we need some shit amongst the pretty flowers ._.

[Bullet Magnet]

My squabble sense is tingling. Anyone call for shit-shoveller?

[STM]

In truth he's crying while typing because that's his real life job. Oh BM.

[Bullet Magnet]

It's not that bad.

[STM]

Hell there's a whole biology world in poop I couldn't even scratch the surface of.

[Manco]

Couldn’t or wouldn’t?

[STM]

...wouldn't. =( Sorry OH, I've failed you.

[MA]

Well sometimes we need some shit amongst the pretty flowers ._.

I WAS JOKING

I HAVE NO OPINION ON THE MATTER

LEAVE ME ALONE

My squabble sense is tingling. Anyone call for shit-shoveller?

i wanted shit-shoveller as my CT, but it wasn't allowed.

[T-nex]

I WAS JOKING

I HAVE NO OPINION ON THE MATTER

LEAVE ME ALONE

Well sometimes we simply need to be without opinion in an opinion-filled thread.

[MA]

are you trolling me or are you actually serious? i honestly can't work it out.

[Havoc]

I can't figure any woman out. Let alone T-nex.

[T-nex]

are you trolling me or are you actually serious? i honestly can't work it out.

Not serious.

Yeap.

._.

The confusion over when I'm serious and when not goes into room 102! Shoooo!

[Havoc]

*throws T-nex's clothes in after the confusion.* Har har!

[T-nex]

*throws Havocs eyes in* haar haar!

[Havoc]

[Nepsotic]

Can't accept havocs eyes, let alone t-nex's clothes, as for the confusion thing, are you being serious?

[T-nex]

Hey you don't decide what goes in!

I throw in your legs.

[Nepsotic]

So now i'm pretty much a shop window mannequin?

[STM]

Just be glad she didn't throw you in whole. T-Nex's evil tirade continues...

[MA]

i'll throw in T-nex's goddamn smiley-face things.

._____________.

[T-nex]

I like ._. so Im keeping it.