ODDBOXX: Bugs & Crashes

[Manco]

Apologies for the double post, but the latest updates for Stranger's Wrath and Munch's Oddysee are now live.

For Stranger, the update will download automatically when you restart Steam.

For Munch, see this post from Stewart on the Steam forums: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...&postcount=305

Munch's v2 Update is now live on the Oddworld site ...

http://www.oddworld.com/updates/Munc..._UPDATE_v2.zip

Download this 2.4MB zip and extract it into the "\bin\" folder in the Munch install directory.

You MUST run "launcher.exe" to play the game now, or it won't work.

We got some drop shadows in there, there were some issues getting the Dynamic shadows to work, so those are NOT included at this time, sorry.

But you now have the ability to Choose ANY native resolution, windowed or fullscreen. Along with Anti Aliasing

Also the main keyboard movement controls have been altered so that WASD are used to move the main char, instead of the cursor keys...

There are a few other fixes under the hood, none of which I can remember right now.

Enjoy.

It's not auto-updating through Steam because the Valve guy in charge of doing that is in Vietnam, in case you were wondering.

[iamkratos]

Hi everyone. F.O.A., my pc is powerful enough, I have al the drivers and all the requirements. However, I'm experiencing a very curious bug in Stranger¡s Wrath.
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When I am a steef and i begin to fight the wolvarks in the river dam level, then they shoot at me the shoot NOTHING at all. It happens there onward. I don't know what to do. I've searche everywhere for this problem and have found nothing.

Any ideas / help?

[iamkratos]

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Curious. Once passed the dam sector, and rescue the friendly townsfolk you are given a new cool armor and begin a part of the game with a boat.
There, the enemies shoot bullets instead of nothingness and you receive damage again.
Everything seems normal here.

I'll post again if I find more unexplicable bugs.

LONG LIVE OUTWORD INHABBITANTS!!

[Wil]

HOORAY FOR OUTWORD!

[MeechMunchie]

So is this guy a troll or what?

[Nate]

No, he's Spanish. And Kratos.

[MeechMunchie]

His 6 posts and blank profile fields do not reassure me.

[Nate]

What blank profile feeds? He's got his profile more filled out than I do.

[MeechMunchie]

Evidently he read my post.

[Dipstikk]

So hey.

I'm trying to run Stranger's Wrath through Wine, and while I got the game up and running, and while I get sound during the menu and the cutscenes, I don't have any sound in the actual game. The mouse also doesn't work in the game, so I can't aim the camera at all.

I'm using linux because I can't afford an idiot-proof OS for my partition (I still barely understand how to use linux) and couldn't code my way out of a paper bag, so if you need me to do something that involves more than downloading a file, like, patching or updating with winetricks, tell me how to do it in excruciating detail because otherwise I'll be wasting our time asking millions of "how do I do this or that" questions that are probably basic to you.

So yeah. Thank you in advance. No rush, I got Mass Effect to work finally so I can occupy my tiny little mind with that while I wait.

Mouse doesn't work, can't move the camera.
Sound won't play at all in game.

[DarkHoodness]

Good luck getting anything to run properly with Wine - In my experience, if it works, you're lucky - But if it doesn't, it's a pain in the arse and depends on so many damned variables. Shame really - I'd be using Linux otherwise.

[Dipstikk]

It's never occurred them to create a user-friendly version for people who aren't computer geniuses?

[Nate]

Most of the people who need to use Wine are computer geniuses.

[Phylum]

That's probably because they're the only ones that can.

[metroixer]

I got a new laptop with an Intel HD card and now I can't run Stranger's Wrath. It'll show the loading screen, the steam community thing will pop up, then the screen will just freeze. I can hear and control the game, but I can't see anything.

EDIT: Actually, I seem to be having a similar issue for both 2D games. Oddysee gets frozen on the screen that has all the OWI info (whatever it's called, the black screen with the white letters, you know what I mean I never bothered to read it). Exoddus plays all the opening CGI fine, but after the transition into the main menu the screen freezes again. Both games can be played... If I was that one blind kid.

[Manco]

I got a new laptop with an Intel HD card and now I can't run Stranger's Wrath. It'll show the loading screen, the steam community thing will pop up, then the screen will just freeze. I can hear and control the game, but I can't see anything.

Intel's OpenGL drivers are shit, there's basically nothing you can do.

EDIT: Actually, I seem to be having a similar issue for both 2D games. Oddysee gets frozen on the screen that has all the OWI info (whatever it's called, the black screen with the white letters, you know what I mean I never bothered to read it). Exoddus plays all the opening CGI fine, but after the transition into the main menu the screen freezes again. Both games can be played... If I was that one blind kid.

As for this, I have no idea. I know there's one or two folks out there with similar AO/AE issues, but as far as I've seen no-one knows what the underlying problem is.

If you're on Windows 7, you could try using the Compatibility Mode settings, but I don't know if that would help.

[metroixer]

Intel's OpenGL drivers are shit, there's basically nothing you can do.

So no chance of JAW fixing this huh? Any other game I have (and that includes TF2, X3, GTA: SA, Serious Sam HD, command and conquer....) work fine, I don't see why oddworld has to be an exception. I am on windows 7, so I guess I'll try out compatibility mode stuff.

[Varrok]

None of the games you've named uses OGL (I guess), and no, it won't work on intel :/

[Manco]

So no chance of JAW fixing this huh? Any other game I have (and that includes TF2, X3, GTA: SA, Serious Sam HD, command and conquer....) work fine, I don't see why oddworld has to be an exception.

Those games are all built on DirectX though, not OpenGL. Intel doesn't have problems with DX (at least as far as I know), hence why those games all work.

You'll run into some real problems with games built on OpenGL - I have an Intel chip myself, and Stranger's Wrath, Amnesia, and other OGL games won't work.

It's stupid, but it's Intel's fault, not JAW's.

[metroixer]

Hah, and amnesia is one of the games I wanted to buy and try out on my fancy new laptop. Ah well.

[Manco]

Stewart Gilray dropped some interesting info on the Steam forums, related to SW and MO's HD remakes: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...8&postcount=12

We are still continuing to support PC, so much so that I'd like to announce here and now, that we WILL be releasing "Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee HD" on PC *AND* Mac later this year.

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As you know we said we'd be releasing Stranger's Wrath HD on PC after the PS3 release. This is still the case and will be done as a title update, replacing the versions you already have. This is also true for Munch's Oddysee HD.

When we did the job on Stranger's Wrath we were given 5 months to do the work and did a pretty good job, but NOT the job we wanted to do, due to the time constraints, which is why we're offering EVERYONE the HD versions as a direct title update to the versions you have.

With regards to NEW PC titles, we are still supporting the PC, however we will be releasing console versions first, as we will be spending the time post console release updating the PC titles with extra features etc.

e: I asked a couple of questions about the HD update, here's Stewart's response: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...9&postcount=14

1. Yes Stranger will still be OpenGL, but we are making some alterations to it so that it's OpenGL ES and not full OpenGL, this SHOULD sort out Intel stuff.

2. MO will still be DX based.

3. We'd not thought of that, as that means we'd have to support both data sets, and as we're making some changes to the data itself for the HD versions, in terms of it's format etc. likely NOT. BUT don't worry, it shouldn't have ANY knock on affect on the performance as the original XBox data on both games.

[Phylum]

So they're working on Munch HD to run on PC and Mac, but they're still using DirectX?

Am I missing something really obvious here?

[Manco]

Presumably the Mac version of Munch will be built on OGL, but the PC version will still be DirectX.

e: From the man himself: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...1&postcount=21

The engine we are using has multiple renderers, for different platforms

[metroixer]

Excellent news on the GL stuff, since it doesn't look like stranger HD will be out for 360.

[Plexius]

All games work great for me, except, im not sure why, but on stranger, i cant read the dialog options on menus ther just sribbled out squares and stuff? if you dont know what im talking about, ill post a pic later on this post.

[Varrok]

It's a common bug, it should be fixed by either updating your ATI drivers (assuming you've got and ATI card) and/or disabling Catalyst A.I. in CCC options

[Plexius]

How do i deactivate that? i dont see anything in the CCC wizard thing that would turn it off?

[Plexius]

Sorry for doublepost but i need some help here lol :P